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  • #112975
    Callington1
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    I have searched and searched but to no avail. Can you please tell me what a fault code of 15 (fifteen) means for this machine?

    many thanks,

    Keith

    #112976
    hotpnt
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    Hi, F15 is dryer heater relay not working, worth taking the plug out & checking all the dryer connections & those to the module, also on the rear of drum may have a disc shaped thermistor, earth faults on these can give the problem, however, more likely to be a faulty main module,

    #112977
    Callington1
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    Thanks hotpnt, much appreciated

    Keith

    #112978
    Bibble
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    What a gem of a forum this is. I’d be grateful for any help, please. I’m not getting any flashing error codes but have the following problem with my AWD12 Advantage.

    My query relates to just after I’ve put a load in and switched it on. I’m pretty sure that it used to let some water in via tray 1 (about 5 seconds worth) and then used to pump it out again (say for 10 seconds) presumably so there was no old water in the bottom from a previous cycle. Then it would draw water in thru tray 2 where the powder lives and start the washing cycle proper.

    More recently it lets water in for 5 seconds (via tray 1) then only pumps out for just a second or two. Then proceeds with the normal cycle, with water going thru the tray 2.

    Today I put a single item in to wash (cycle 2). It let the water in for 5 seconds (tray 1) then only pumped out for a second or 2 and started washing away without drawing any water/powder thru tray 2. 😕

    This might also explain why small loads done on wool wash seem to emerge with powder still on them at the end of the cycle

    My guess is that this is a problem with whatever measures the water level/load. Please can anyone advise?

    Thanks

    #112979
    cockney steve
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    I’d GUESS It’s the water -level pressure-pipe/bell that’s blocked, leading the machine to think it’s got enough water.

    Unplug machine….gain access……look for flat, cylindrical device with a load of wires/terminals and also a rubber or plastic pipe which disappears toward the bottom part of the tub.

    Detach the pipe from the cylindrical pressure-switch and you should be able to blow down it…..if it’s blocked,strip and clean or try a squeezy washing-up -liquid bottle full of HOT water with a nozzle which will plug into the pipe

    use it as a water-pistol to flush the muck into the machine (the pump should get rid of it on the next use)

    DO NOT be tempted to blow through the pressure-switch they are VERY sensitive and you will likely kill it with one puff!

    Not a professional washer engineer so the above is just a guess!

    #112980
    pirelli
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    Hi,

    probably lots of hints to my problem somewhere in between all these posts, but anyway heres the situation:

    al128d
    10 flashes

    it usually clicks at the rinse, program selector dial continues to go round and round. it sounds like the machine still is washing but theres no movement.

    Pleeeease help.

    #112981
    iadom
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    10 flashes suggests the pressure switch ( water level control switch ) is not sensing correctly.

    Could be a blockage, faulty pressure switch, poor electrical connections or even a faulty main control module.

    #112982
    pirelli
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    iadom wrote:10 flashes suggests the pressure switch ( water level control switch ) is not sensing correctly.

    Could be a blockage, faulty pressure switch, poor electrical connections or even a faulty main control module.

    thanks for the quick reply.
    how do i go about checking up on this?

    #112983
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    Not that easy to check the pressure switch.

    Checking hoses for blockages and pump filter is self evident as is checking all of the wiring connections to the main circuit board for loose connections, squeeze the connector blocks between your fingers.

    Be sure to remove the mains plug if you intend to have a look.

    The very length of this thread should tell you something about the quality of these Indesit based machines. :rolls:

    #112984
    faintly_bemused
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    Hi

    I have had problems with an Ariston AWD12UK washer / dryer. Dryer stopped working, clothes came out cold and wet.

    Found a burnt out dryer element and a loose terminal on the fan motor. replaced the element and the motor, cleaned out the fan and housing, also the plastic moulded ducting at the back of the machine. Fusible link metered through OK, thermistor was around 26K Ohm cold. Put everything back together.

    Then the fun really began. Machine worked for about 5 minutes, then the program knob started spinning accompanied by 13 flashes of the LED. Since this is supposed to indicate a dryer fan or thermistor fault, took the top off again to check the fan was running (it was) and found the thermistor ceramic top looking slightly tipped over. Thermistor was now open circuit. Ordered and fitted new thermistor from a well known supplier, genuine Indesit spare. On test, dryer did not heat. Found the damaged thermistor had caused overheat and trip of the thermal protection fusible link. Grr. Obtained replacement 121 deg thermal trip, crimped in place, tested again. Washing machine worked fine, once dryer cycle started machine once again started 13 flash routine. Found new thermistor had literally fallen apart, and of course the resultant overheat had blown the new thermal trip. Inspection of the thermistor bits seemed to indicate the ceramic was only bonded to the metal part at one point, looked to me if the internal spring contacts had forced the ceramic top off once the part had got hot and the metal had expanded. Returned broken pieces to supplier (still waiting for refund), obtained a new thermistor from the same supplier. Replaced it, replaced the thermal trip, tried machine. Same thing again, once dryer heated up the thermistor top came loose, moved slightly upwards, went high resistance and caused overheating. Another thermal trip.

    Of course, once the thermistor goes open circuit, the processor sees it as a fault, and renders the washing machine useless as well.

    I’ve now reached the point where I’m getting it in the ear about the machine, and I’m pretty ticked off.

    My questions are: is this a common fault with these thermistors, or have I just hit a bad batch?

    Has anybody else had problems with these?

    I could force the thermistor back together and bond it with a high temperature silicon rubber, but since a failure means an overheat and reliance on the thermal trip to disconnect the element, I’m loathe to do so. Since the machine is nearly seven years old, I might just cut my losses and bin it, though this would give me a lot of satisfaction, it doesn’t make particular financial sense. My other half is fed up with me saying it’s fixed, only for the thing to grind to a halt again.

    Would it be worth sourcing a spare from another supplier? I notice this site has the part, apparently manufactured by Hotpoint rather than Indesit, though I realize they are all probably made in the same factory.

    #112985
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    The simple truth is that you have a very low end product. Hotpoint as such has ceased to exist except in name only with the closure of the last UK factory a few months ago.

    Washer dryers are bad news at the best of times and you have one of the worst of them. 😥

    #112986
    faintly_bemused
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    The simple truth is that you have a very low end product. Hotpoint as such has ceased to exist except in name only with the closure of the last UK factory a few months ago.

    Washer dryers are bad news at the best of times and you have one of the worst of them. Crying or Very sad
    Thank you for your reply.

    With respect, I know that washer dryers are a compromise, and I know that this machine is low quality. We have limited space, hence a washer dryer rather than separate units. It wasn’t my decision to purchase this particular machine, that choice was made by the person who uses it, and she has been happy with it. Apart from a circuit board under warranty and a few pump filter cleans it has done what it said on the box for over 6 years, it’s normally used daily, sometimes twice a day. If I could afford to and had the space I would purchase separate Miele units; I can’t and I haven’t.

    The issue I have at the moment is Indesit apparently can’t make a dryer stat which can actually cope with getting hot. Since the new motor and element have been fitted and used, I cannot return them, so I am stuck in a situation where I am £100 odd out of pocket and still faced with the cost of buying a new machine because of a component which looks to me costs about 50p to make (retail £7.99 of course).

    To go back to what I originally said: are there known issues with this component, or do I have a bad batch? Or… is there something I haven’t seen which could cause this problem?

    #112987
    iadom
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    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    I have changed several TOC’s but very few NTC’s on these to tell the truth.

    #112988
    faintly_bemused
    Participant

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    I have changed several TOC’s but very few NTC’s on these to tell the truth.

    OK, thanks. Thermistor could possibly be a symptom rather than a cause. I’m wondering if perhaps the element is not cycling. Do you know if the power is cycled by solid state switching, or is there a relay?

    #112989
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Ariston Margherita 2000 – I also have a problem!

    Heater is switched by a relay on the main PCB. Any fault on this relay should give an error code, usually the dreaded F08 or 8 flashes. 😥

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