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Re: Bosch Dishwasher Recall
When Bosch, Beko and others issue a recall notice they are always at pains to state: “only models listed are affected” which begs the question: How do they know that for certain sure?
Voltage fluctuations and weak solder joints on high current components are an accepted reason for almost all of these failures. Yet they blatantly state if yours isn’t on the list then yours is OK to leave on all night, go to work all day, go shopping or even turn on and go away for the weekend!
The latest example in Wales yet another case of turning it on and going to bed……..so who is in the wrong here?
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Generally by the date of manufacture and the factory code.
If it has the feature to be timed then the manufacturer is at fault because they have produced it to be able to be left on but it has failed
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Did you know about this….
Dear Service Provider,
Re: BSH Home Appliances
You will be aware of the work BSH has been undertaking in contacting customers with dishwashers manufactured during a certain time period and offering a free of charge module replacement.
BSH have asked Repaircare to provide additional support to the work being done by their service team.
From Tuesday 2nd April we will start loading pre-book calls for Thursday 4th April for Repaircare SPs to visit and change a module which is situated in the door. This process will continue on a daily basis for as long as BSH require our services.
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fisrt news of this was friday when they sent me 8 jobs for module changes @ £35.00 per call all prebooked for thurs but 1/2 modules are out of stock !!!! yet another ploy to dump the crap on engineers. but have you noticed the increase in part prices !!! shame they couldnt pass on a small percentage of profit to us and make the labour rate a viable job
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Allsorts wrote:I may sound thick on this as I am not great at all this maths and have no calculator to hand … But, running a 2kw heater at 240v instead of 220v you’ll get an increase in resistance of 19{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} as is said above, however, taking into consideration that a lot of people run their dishwashers during the night for the cheaper rate electric, and at night voltage can rise most commonly to 247v (26{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}) notwithstanding this, in some cases to as high as 253v 32{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} higher resistance than the board is set for…
Nevertheless, this should not cause fires unless the wrong board plastics have been used… The board should blow far before the heat caused by the over-powering is able to cause a fire.
George
There is a school of thoughts that due to voltage fluctuations, you can prevent it happening by having voltage stabiliser at the fuse board. It costs around £100, it was claimed that it can save you money in terms of energy consumption like you said night time voltage is higher and it’s excess electricity you do not need and it get used up needlessly which you are paying for the excess. The stabiliser can in theory monitor the household power intake and allow certain appliance to come on when there’s spare capacity of power such as prevent the fridge running during peak time and allow it to come on a little later as soon there’s space. Complicated but it this system would or could have saved the Bosch dishwasher and many other electronically based whitegoods. I’m not an expert in this but from what I gathered may have some weightings behind it if you give it some more thoughts. If every homes have this installed the it would shut down at least one power station at night time thus reducing carbon emission and costs.
Besides most of my customers don’t have cheap electricity and they turn their dishwasher at nights because it’s easier and out of sight and mind while you sleep. I do the same with dishwasher and washing machine as they take so long to clean, makes sense to do it overnight so that it ready in the morning. Some engineers advise against it because of fire and flooding risk, I had that warning from Comet years ago. I rather take the risk and so do many of my customers.
Matt
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On BBC South Today a Bosch dishwasher caught fire overnight near Wareham (Hope it’s not one of mine) and local fire brigade say around six have caught fire locally recently.They had a smoke alarm which apparently saved them. Put mine on overnight last night but won’t be again. Might swap it for a Smeg I have in stock.
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In spite of the maximum exposure on local and national TV today over these fires they only refer to them being the Bosch brand. No mention that the recall includes Neff and Siemens. No doubt leaving owners of those brands thinking that their product is safe!
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http://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/n … her_blaze/
I see my local rag reporter has made a mountain out of a mole hill with this story!!
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You really think it’s a molehill?
They found it after smelling burning luckily for them. As they said, had they been in bed who knows.
Put yourself in their position and maybe you would see it in a different way.
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Jeez,did you get out bed the wrong side?,i was referring to the the report of a blaze!!.
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What is interesting about the Kidderminster fire is that that model dishwasher is NOT subject to the Bosch recall. :shocked:
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What model is it, Martin? I’ve seen quite a few of this style that are in scope of the recall – early versions use the earlier typre of pcb affected by the recall.
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stratfordgirl wrote:What model is it, Martin?
It’s an SGS66E series machine which was made much later and as I mentioned is not part of the current recall.
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kladave wrote:Jeez,did you get out bed the wrong side?,i was referring to the the report of a blaze!!.
Nice, perhaps you should have made that clear.
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Martin, how can you be so sure? According to the article, Bosch advised the householder that the dishwasher was covered by the recall.
It could be an SGS43E machine, which is in scope of the recall (eg SGS43E02GB/45). As far as I can tell, the fascia design is identical to the one in the picture.
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