candy alise 105 changing bearings

[Martin]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

…beats reading “War & Peace” this thread, and no mistake. :rotl:

Tell you what….Yurtesen (wherever you are?) here’s the deal….I personally will BUY YOU A NEW MACHINE….OK?

PM your address details (even if you live outside the UK) and I will supply you a new washing machine….Gratis…Ziltch and fer NOWT…I promise…no strings…no worries! 😀

Regards and thanks for the entertainment!

Martin

[Dave_Conway]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

Here’s the original thread from February if you want a bit more to read on the subject:

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … pic&t=3738

Evren is in Finland Martin.

Dave.

[kwatt]

Martin, stop teasing! 😆

K.

[yurtesen]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

kwatt wrote:That shell you see there is from the inner bearing! For the back bearing to fail water has to get to it, the only way that can happen is if it goes through the front, or inner, bearing. You can clearly see on the drum shaft residual water and detergent from your photos so water was in there, no doubt, so the front bearing was well and truly bust.

Yes, however I didnt see any residual detergent etc. around the back bearing or on the way to there. If the water was coming from front to back. Wouldnt it be logical that front bearing would go into pieces? More to that. The lubricants in the front bearing and the back bearing seemed to be clean.

kwatt wrote:They are part of the front bearing to retain the grease shields that have no doubt disintegrated as they often do.

So the front bearing comes with those shields etc. I can just cut them off and no harm done. Right? The question is from where do I get the bearing seal and the bearings?

I have to admit that I am not ready to give up at this point. Before, when I had the problem with the timer, it was also said that I should give up. But it was possible to fix the timer by glueing hard and thin plastic pieces to the worn out parts inside the timer. It was an easy task but nobody suggested it. I still do not feel that I have an impossible to accomplish task in my hand now.

Considering the cost of the parts are not so much plus I already done the hard work of opening the back of the drum. I will replace the bearings and close the machine. If it gets broken after 3 months, well then I would get rid of the machine. OK it costed 30-40euro. I saved the money already by opening the machine instead of going to gym 😉 It was quite an exercise really…

So, how can I obtain the parts really? I am not living in UK but I have a very good friend in UK who can relay the parts to me. So its not a big problem.

Thanks,
Evren

[Martin]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

Dave_Conway wrote:Evren is in Finland Martin.

Evren,

Please PM me with your details and I will supply you with a brand new Washing Machine direct from your local store in FINLAND.

My word is my bond!!!!!!!!

Martin

[Martin]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

HELLO Evren are you reading this?????

Martin

[kwatt]

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Evran,

It’s like this…

We won’t split a timer apart because it takes so much time. Now in our game time = money like most other businesses all over the world, so it’s actually cheaper to replace the component as opposed to repairing it. When you break it down yourself and you’re not being charged for the time to do that then it’s fair enough, but would you want to be paying someone to do that for you?

On the drum…

It is goosed but if you’re absolutely determined Dave will be able to get you the bits but I really do advise against it.

You can get the shell off, but you’ll need a damn good set of drawers to do it, apply heat and lots of it and attempt to draw the shell off. If you try to cut it you’ll do the shaft in. Trust me, we tried many, many times to solve this problem to save ordering up expensive drums as it was a common fault because people ignored the noise until it got so bad the bearings collapsed or simply didn’t realise that it was happening as it is a gradual failure.

For that to happen and that shell to be there the bearing have failed, full stop, end of story, absolutely no doubt whatsoever! The only way that would happen is from water ingress, which means detergent was in there and, you see that black gunk there, that’s detergent. When you see the grease it would have been black, it should have been an opaque golden colour as they are when new.

The other thing is, was the backplate fixed with silicone to the tank? If so how did you get it off?

K.

[Martin]

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kwatt wrote:Evran,

It’s like this…

What’s this Ken? Have I been put in ‘ignore mode’ by you again? is anyone reading my post on this? am I pi***ng into a force 9 gale here?

Martin the joker eh????

👿

[yurtesen]

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Martin wrote:HELLO Evren are you reading this?????
Martin

Yes, I am reading but I didnt reply to your post because you must be kidding.

[kwatt]

Me too, are you serious Martin?

If you are….

Evran.. take Martin’s offer up, like NOW!

K.

[Martin]

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yurtesen wrote:Yes, I am reading but I didnt reply to your post because you must be kidding.

At last I seem to be making contact.

OK..Yurtesen, do please send me a pm (thats a ‘Private message’ by the way…the button just below my post) Give me your full name, address and telephone number in Finland THEN! I will get my contact ‘Marku’ in Finland to contact YOU about this…OK so far??

No conditions are attached (except that when you get your new machine you will at least tell the sceptics here on UK Whitegoods of what I did for you 😀 )

Yours most sincerely

Martin

[yurtesen]

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kwatt wrote:
We won’t split a timer apart because it takes so much time. Now in our game time = money like most other businesses all over the world, so it’s actually cheaper to replace the component as opposed to repairing it. When you break it down yourself and you’re not being charged for the time to do that then it’s fair enough, but would you want to be paying someone to do that for you?

Actually, it was not so easy to see the problem in timer and fix it. See, it took many hours for me to figure out what to do with it because I never opened any kind of timer before. IF I would need to open the timer again and fix, it wouldnt take more than 1-2 hours at most. Considering a new timer costs about 200euro and it is almost impossible to obtain. If I was fixing timers for washing machines I think people would want to get it fixed instead of paying 800euro for a new washer/dryer. Although I do not know how long my fix would last. So far the timer was working fine for about 50 or more wash cycles

kwatt wrote:
On the drum…
It is goosed but if you’re absolutely determined Dave will be able to get you the bits but I really do advise against it.

I am quite determined. But how much would they cost total including shipment to an UK address(to my friend’s)?

kwatt wrote:
You can get the shell off, but you’ll need a damn good set of drawers to do it, apply heat and lots of it and attempt to draw the shell off. If you try to cut it you’ll do the shaft in. Trust me, we tried many, many times to solve this problem to save ordering up expensive drums as it was a common fault because people ignored the noise until it got so bad the bearings collapsed or simply didn’t realise that it was happening as it is a gradual failure.

I doubt it will come off by pulling it out. It seems to be quite tight in there. But I have time and patience. I can cut it off very slowly and precisely. Plus its good exercise 🙂

kwatt wrote:
For that to happen and that shell to be there the bearing have failed, full stop, end of story, absolutely no doubt whatsoever! The only way that would happen is from water ingress, which means detergent was in there and, you see that black gunk there, that’s detergent. When you see the grease it would have been black, it should have been an opaque golden colour as they are when new.

Yes, the grease was black. But I have seen same coloured grease before. Not all are golden coloured I guess. Anyhow, the front bearing was not collapsed. It was merely making some sounds. The back bearing was the one which was collapsed.

kwatt wrote:
The other thing is, was the backplate fixed with silicone to the tank? If so how did you get it off?

It was fixed with some big screws, but it didnt get open first because there was some sticky white thing(silicon?). I heated it up with heat gun and forced it open very carefully without denting any metal parts. I havent seen such silicon before but it cant be so difficult to obtain here. I can look for it. The worst case scenario might be that I use the silicon I have which can handle up to 200degrees celsius but not sticky(in my opinion). The screws around the back plate was quite many so I could guess that they will hold it easily and quite tight there. Plus water does not go to the back plate. There is the inner plate which would require a can opener to get it off. I think it will be quite easy to close it up compared to opening.

[yurtesen]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

Martin wrote:
No conditions are attached (except that when you get your new machine you will at least tell the sceptics here on UK Whitegoods of what I did for you 😀 )

Yes, I know about PM 🙂 but I still cant believe that somebody would buy a washing machine to me out the blue. There must be another catch? So you say that you will pay for a brand new machine so that I will leave the forum alone? 😆 I didnt think I was disturbing the forum this much 😯

I am sure you understand me being a little bit skeptical. So, you will pay for the machine also or only buy it? 🙂 There must be some word trick here really.

[Martin]

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yurtesen wrote:
I am sure you understand me being a little bit skeptical. So, you will pay for the machine also or only buy it? 🙂 There must be some word trick here really.

No trick…I very much enjoyed your postings…no word tricks either….Give me the details I ask of you and I will supply you a new machine, delivered to your door there in Finland

Anticipating your next question…WHY?? Not your problem, only my problem just to show these ‘colleagues’ of mine on this website that everything I say on here is true, with no exception. This is my perfect opportunity to cast aside their doubts 😉

Just go along with what I ask and NEVER LOOK A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH as we say here in the UK.

My contribution to this site is NOT a joke in spite of this characterisation ( :martin: )

Are you up for it Mr Evran Yurtesen?

Hey! Hey!

Martin

[iadom]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

dear Mr Martin, I have a Hotpoint Empress with a faulty main gearbox, it is driven by a huge motor that seems to have two bits of rubber with screws through it. These have snapped and I suspect the gearbox is seized. If I strip the gearbox down and send you the pictures of the faulty cogs will you be able to find the part numbers and send them to me.

If I can repair this machine I would be most grateful, but would be prepared to accept option 2 if all else fails.

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