candy alise 105 changing bearings

[Martin]

Re: candy alise 105 changing bearings

iadom wrote: If I strip the gearbox down and send you the pictures of the faulty cogs will you be able to find the part numbers and send them to me.

‘Off topic’ and I will laugh along with you at this, BUT on this topic right now?….I choose not to OK? 👿

Martin

[yurtesen]

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Martin,
I will return back to you in a while. I must discuss this with my friend here. Although I wanted to get this machine operational again, you have an offer which is difficult to refuse.
Thanks,
Evren

[kwatt]

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Evran, I’ve known Martin for about two years now and met him on several occasions as well as had many a conversation by PM and email and I can tell you now, he ain’t kidding! I am also a bit taken aback by this kind offer, but if that’s what Martin wants then who am I to argue.

What I will tell you is that Martin is as straight as they come and this offer is obviously genuine. In fact I’m so convinced of it that I will back the pledge he’s made and it ain’t hard to find me and it’s in black and white before your very eyes.

It is a one-off, it’s up to you to take it up.

On another note, it’s as well you did heat the silicon (I noticed you had the backplate off) but did you hear it “crack”? if not you may have also bent the outer tub and believe me it’s easy to do on that Charme range tub group as the first four or five I did I wrecked even though they looked fine. Candy, not so great with the technical informaion it has to be said. 😕 When you put it back together it leaks from the center seal and it’s enough to reduce a grown man to tears when it happens!

When that range first appeared they had serious issues with the bearing on them, they failed under the first year warranty which, to that point in time, was unheard of in a Candy machine, and they were just so hard to put right. So bad in fact that Candy started to supply complete pre-built tub groups which, at the time was unheard of. Now you get full tank grooups from a few manufacturers which just goes to show the stock that they put in the product IMO.

But really I would urge you to take up Martin’s very gracious and kind offer. The grey hairs just ain’t worth it.

K.

[Martin]

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Rakas Evren,

Tämä tarjous on aito ja ystäväni suomessa ottaa sinuun yhteyttä jos sinä annat minulle osoitetietosi. Olen pahoillani ettet voi korjata vanhaa konettasi mutta voin toimittaa sinulle kivan uuden jos haluat?

Parhain terveisin

Martin

[kwatt]

English subtitles please! 😀

K.

[yurtesen]

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Actually, it rather sounded like silicon was boiling in there 🙂 and some little smoke came. Also the back plate still seem to be fitting nicely. We have opened it really carefully it took like 2-3 hours to open. I would be surprised if it was destroyed in the process. But as I mentioned, between the back plate and the inner one, there comes no water. The pipes etc. are directly connected to inner plate or under the drum. The inner plate is impossible to open without a can opener really(or blowtorch). I can send you pictures if you would like?, you can probably make a really nice photo album 🙂 Too bad we didnt photo documented the opening of the drum etc.

Although I have already sent a PM to Martin. I still have the machine open in pieces. If the parts are not so expensive, why not give it a try? OK it might take many hours of work and there is a very high possibility that the result will be a failure. But still, I have done all the hard work of opening the back plate etc. now I just need few cheap parts and I can close it up and if it leaks etc. then it leaks, so I can send the machine to recycling. After all, before this, I fixed the leaking water extraction pump and even went through the speed control electronics etc. of the machine, not to mention the famous timer 🙂

The thing is that I dont like giving up so easily on anything. I have to see with my eyes that the machine doesnt work after I replace the bearings and the seal and close. For the fun of it, it is worth taking the risk really.

Plus, my friend here wants to make a flower pot from the drum if I fail 🙄

Thanks for everybody’s replies 🙂 It has been an fabulous journey(into the washing machine) so far…
Evren…

[kwatt]

Evran, you have my admiration for trying.

Dave should be able to get the bearing kit for you.

K.

[Dave_Conway]

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yurtesen wrote:The seal has some text on it. It says “30 53/60 10/13 DRL FL” and on the other side it says “30 52 10/11^5” and a little text “ROLF”.

Tie me Kangaroo down sport 😆

OK, I need a picture of the seal please Evren first of all, I think I have found that but I want to make sure 😉

yurtesen wrote:
outer bearing inner bearing
inner race 17mm 19.5mm(about)
outer race 39mm(about) 46mm(about)

These are easier, the 17/39mm is in fact 17/40mm and is a 6203 bearing, the larger is 20/47mm and a 6204.

Please confirm if you think the above are the correct dimensions 😀

Dave.

[yurtesen]

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Martin wrote:Rakas Evren,

Tämä tarjous on aito ja ystäväni suomessa ottaa sinuun yhteyttä jos sinä annat minulle osoitetietosi. Olen pahoillani ettet voi korjata vanhaa konettasi mutta voin toimittaa sinulle kivan uuden jos haluat?

Parhain terveisin
Martin

Translation:
Dear Evren,
This offer is genuine and my friend in Finland will contact you if you give me your address. I am sorry that you cant fix your old machine but I can deliver you a nice new one if you like?
Best regards
Martin

[yurtesen]

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Here are the pictures of the seal:

http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0824.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0825.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0827.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0828.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0829.JPG

And the cost is? $$$ 🙂

I have to come back to you about the diameter of the bearings tomorrow.
But one question, does the inner race of inside bearing come with the parts marked with the arrows in the following picture? I mean, is it one piece?
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0813ex.JPG
I am going to cut the inner race from the shaft very carefully, because I couldnt get it move at all by any means. So I was just wondering if I should cut those 2 little rings above and under it also?

PS. I might be able to find the bearings here but the seal is the real problem. If you could let me know about the prices of the bearings and the seal seperately I would be glad.

Thank you very much,
Evren

[Dave_Conway]

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Sussed it ! 😀

PM or email me your address and I’ll send the bits when I recieve the seal. You should get it within 10 days hopefully, I’ll send them directly to Finland for you as well.

And yes, the rings indicated by the arrows are part of the bearing inner race so destroy it at will, just don’t damage the shaft anymore than it already is 😉

I can go to bed now :wave:

Dave.

[Martin]

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I forward this direct from our friend Yurtsen in the hope you guys can help him?

yurtesen wrote:I am trying everyday at least I got the inner bearing’s inner race out without damaging the shaft. By cutting it with an interesting small tool and a hand drill.

But the outer ring of inner bearing is like superglued. I cut it into 2 and it still doesnt move at all. I am not sure if I cut it into 2 actually but it is not a complete ring anymore The bad thing is that I cant hit it from the other side. There is something in front of it.

Any advices would be highly appreciated

Evren

Martin

[kwatt]

Read back to what I originally posted. 😉

Seen this many, many times and as I said it’s nigh on impossible to remove it without terminally damaging the shaft. Trust me, we tried allsorts including having special drawers made up etc.

K.

[Dave_Conway]

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As a last resort you could try this, which I’ve done a few times but it can result in total disaster.

As the bearing races are high tensile steel they are quite brittle under the right conditions, get some freezer spray and get it really cold, then rest on a very firm metal surface, such as a vice bolted to a strong bench then hit the race as hard as possible with a heavy hammer, it may or may not shatter it, worst case, you’ll completely knacker the shaft, but as it’s a “no go situation” anyway, there’s not much to loose by trying.

Do or die 😉

Dave.

[Penguin45]

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Er, he’s got the inner race off the shaft chaps, he’s talking about the outer in the sleeve. Oxy time 😆 ?

If there is a proud edge to the race in the sleeve, you should be able to catch it with the drift and by working evenly around the bearing tube, drive it out. If there isn’t, I don’t know what should be done.

Regards,
Penguin45.

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