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The hole in the outer drum is actually a small slit caused by the large washer at the top of the suspension rod rubbing through. As I said I have managed on several occasions to seal this with epoxy putty from the outside. Granted there is very little room but using a large, flat bladed screwdriver it is possible. Never ever used Debhor as a permanent seal inside a drum, it would be peeling off in no time at all.
if it was me I would use a soldering iron first
find a plastic somwhere on the outer tub that you can cut a bit off safely. This can ber used as fill in material
if you touch the plastic with the iron it will melt and you can carefully stitch the crack together adding a bit of extra plastic from the bit you cut off
you need to add the milliput over the top to fill any pinholes that are left
filled some pretty big holes this way
did a machine like yours where a 2 inch piece was punched out be a coin. Worked a treat for years after
Dave
Ah, the small slit caused by the large washer makes a lot of sense. By tipping over the machine, I’ve been able to feel the hole, but cannot see it. The top of the suspension rod, where the washer would be, is in between two perpendicular pieces of plastic that form the bracket for the top of the rod, on the outer drum. It’s in between those two pieces of plastic that I can feel something amiss with the outer drum. I can barely get my finger in there, as the top of the suspension rod is within that bracket as well, but possibly can jam some Milliput in there, without having to see it, and then ‘reinforce’ the repair from the inside of the drum. What do you think??
electrofix wrote:if it was me I would use a soldering iron first
find a plastic somwhere on the outer tub that you can cut a bit off safely. This can ber used as fill in material
if you touch the plastic with the iron it will melt and you can carefully stitch the crack together adding a bit of extra plastic from the bit you cut off
you need to add the milliput over the top to fill any pinholes that are left
filled some pretty big holes this way
did a machine like yours where a 2 inch piece was punched out be a coin. Worked a treat for years after
Dave
Ugh…..this is becoming a bigger job than I hoped. I’ll flip the machine over and see if I can get to some plastic from the outer tub that’s not needed. I suspect that the best repair is to use the plastic from the tub, rather than plastic from something else? I will have to do the soldering from the inside of the tub, rather than outside, unless I take the whole machine apart. The thought of that brings me to the threshold of finally buying a new machine!!
And now….I have to learn how to solder.
iadom wrote:Worth giving that a try first, you can always do a complete inner drum removal if it doesn’t work.
Hmmm….some hopium here…lol. I will be a LOT easier if just jamming the Milliput into the slit from the outside would work. Of course, I wouldn’t be able to do any soldering, as I’d be working from the bottom of the machine with the suspension rod still in place. Doing it this way will only take a few minutes, rather than hours dismantling. So, yes, I’ll try this first, and keep my fingers crossed!!
No edit function here…..lol. Regarding my last post, I realize I’d still have to take the front panel off the machine, but that’s still a lot easier than taking out the inner tub. I’ve taken the front off the machine so often I can do this in my sleep…lol
Is it possible that this was actually going to be a simple repair?? I’m able to get to the slit from the top of the machine, although I can’t see it, can feel it. So I’ve done the MIlliput from the top. I guess I’ll know tomorrow morning if this worked. Fingers crossed!!
Well, my ‘mystery’ continues. I put the machine on the half load rinse cycle. In the past, the leak on the floor was directly beneath where the new suspension rod is, and when I felt the rod, it felt wet. It’s dry now. So, it appears that (perhaps) the Milliput repair may have worked. The leak on the floor is no longer under the suspension rod. It is now directly under the drum. Actually, there had been evidence of a smaller leak in that area before, but I assumed that perhaps it was running from the leak at the suspension rod. I took the top of the machine off, and the suspension rod and the tub around it is dry. Actually, everything that I am feeling (hoses, soap dish, etc.) is dry. The leak appears to be dripping from the middle of the machine, although with the cement block under the tub in the middle, I don’t see how this is possible. So, presumably it is running from somewhere. I understand that a leak showing on the floor may not be exactly from where the water is coming out, but it appears that I might just have to bite the bullet and remove the inner drum to see if there is anything there that is causing the leak. It may be a leak still at the suspension rod, in a place that I can’t feel….I was hoping that maybe it was just a hose now. Anyway, I’ve come this far, so I’m not giving up (too stubborn). If you have any suggestions of other things to check, I’d appreciate it. In the meantime, I’m going to borrow a 30mm ring wrench, and probably tackle this on Thursday…..
There are many places the machine can leak from. The outer drum front plate seal, the heater, small holes or cracks elsewhere in the outer drum plus all the hoses, door seal, pump, detergent drawer etc. It can be difficult to track down especially if the leak has run along the base from elsewhere.
run machine till it leaks
drain it
note where it leaks on the floor
remove the rubber around the door and peel it back and look for water. also look for rubber splits which are common and check for problem in the drum front
it can leak from behind the weight as the weight is not in contact with the tub merely hanging from it
Dave
another answer is to put the machine on bricks and run it with a mirror underneath so you can see where it comes from
Dave
I had put a piece of cardboard, the dimension of the machine, when I ran it this morning. There was no water on the floor until there was about 2 inches of water in the inner drum (sadly, I’m thinking at about the height of the suspension rod). I drained the machine, took the top off and felt around my Milliput repair and the suspension rod. Dry. I suppose that it’s also possible, as my suspension rod split in half, that not only the washer caused a slit, but possibly a sharp piece further down, as the rod broke. I cannot feel the whole way down from the top of the machine. I then took the back off, and again started feeling around with my hand. There seemed to be nothing wet, however, I see that this machine has been leaking for some time. The metal base on the left side of the machine, toward the front (under the soap dish) is a bit rusty. However I could feel no dampness in that area (nor was the rusty area wet). I suppose it’s possible for a small leak further down on the left side of the tub that runs down the tub and drips under the center of the machine.
The leak dripped down about 10 inches from the left side of the machine (as you are standing in front of it) and seemed to be exactly in the middle of the machine.
I’m going to disassemble down to the outer tub on Thursday, and check that carefully, so I either find an issue, or rule it out. Maybe I will get clues when I remove the clips that hold the front piece with the heater, to the outer drum, or find another hole in the drum somewhere. By the way, thanks for the recommendation of that MIlliput. It was a breeze to work with…kind of fun, actually.Rust under the soap drawer is very common, the drawers were always prone to dribbling down the inside.
If you take the front off you could then pour water into the drum up to the level of the door seal with a pan or kettle. You would have to lower the drain outlet hose to ground level to drain afterwards.
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