ISE W1607W Spin fault

[BryanC]

Electrofix, in answer to your questions I can confirm that the machine does not operate correctly either loaded or empty and I have run a continuity check on the wires between the plug on the Inverter and the plug on the control board and all seems fine.
We still have the old control board installed as the same problems seem to exist whichever board is fitted.
The setting was on Spin & Drain when we switched the machine back on, the drum rotated and started a slow spin, fluctuating in speed as usual and just as it started to ramp up to full speed (even though I had my fingers crossed) it shut down. After about 10 minutes it attempted something again but only rotated half a turn before cutting out and it repeated this once more.
We put a wash load in on Easy Care/40 deg/1200 spin hoping that we might at least get a wash done even if it had to hang out dripping again but the machine filled, stopped for a few minutes then drained again and stopped.

[BryanC]

I haven’t checked the wires between the Inverter and the Motor yet but plan to check them out in the morning. Not sure how many wires connect them and how easy it will be to run a test on them. Strangely, my partner tried putting a wash on this afternoon on AUTO setting (hardly ever used), it filled, washed, drained with its associated spin, rinsed 3 times again with their associated spins but then stopped short of the final spin as on previous occasions.

[BryanC]

I have now done a continuity and wiggle check on the wires between the Inverter PCB and the Motor and also the Motor Communication wires between connector 1 on the control panel and the Inverter PCB and everything seems to be in order. After this we attempted another wash on Auto setting (after clearing the existing program using START STOP and the Power Button) and it performed the same as yesterday but proceeded to perform a final spin but only for maybe a minute before shutting down. After about 10 minutes it attempted to final spin yet again for maybe 3-4 minutes before shutting down again with 7 minutes remaining on the display so it didn’t fully complete the cycle to show END on the display. After about an hour we decided it wasn’t likely to do anything else so opened the door to remove the laundry. The bottom line is that it can wash and spin but seems reluctant to perform a full cycle and we have to clear the memory each time before commencing a new cycle.

[BryanC]

Well, I am back again, bit like a bad penny.
The last 4 or 5 months the machine has generally behaved itself but we knew not to be too complacent as it probably might not last when last weekend all of the original washing machine symptoms that dogged us last year started to return again, i.e. not performing a final spin to now filling and either immediately draining again or filling and just sitting there doing nothing. By coincidence this coincided with a water softener fault that we had at which point last weekend I removed the original softener in preparation to fitting a new replacement which I did today. This entailed a certain amount of turning off and on of the main stopcock in the house.
Prior to me delving once more into the bowels of the washing machine tomorrow, is it possible that the washing machine is reacting to either higher or lower water pressure in the house where I have either opened the stopcock too much or too little after the water softener refit? I suggest this as looking back through history on this forum (clutching at straws as where I should start looking) somebody else reported similar washing machine behaviour which they identified as too high water pressure and when they reduced it the problem appeared to cure itself!!!
Is this a possible cause to look at on this occasion?

[iadom]

The water inlet valves on these machines are standard solenoid operated valves. They do not ‘sense’ water pressure as such and nothing in the machines software can detect high or low water pressures. The machine can detect a fill time out or no fill at all. All valves have a range of pressures they will operate on. If the pressure is extremely low they may not fill at all or fill so slowly that it could trigger a time out fault code. If the pressure is extremely high it can cause the water coming in to spurt out of the dispenser drawer or leak internally and in very extreme conditions possibly damage the valve.

[BryanC]

Thanks for the reply Iadom, which leads me down a somewhat different route as to what could be our problem. I mentioned that for whatever reason the machine had been generally behaving itself over the last few months until recently, when all of it’s original symptoms seemed to reappear. At present, regardless of what wash cycle is selected, the machine fills for a while, drum makes one rotation, sits quietly for about a minute, makes one more rotation and then drains and stops! I mentioned that the problem seems to have reappeared simultaneously to me bypassing our failing water softener, which I have now successfully replaced and is back in full operation, however, and maybe I am becoming paranoid, the fill on the washing machine appears to be quieter than I remember it and I am wondering if anything has partially blocked the inlet valves. My next plan of action is to disconnect the machine fill hose and ensure there is a good water flow with no sediment but I am also tempted to replace the solenoid valves at the same time just to eliminate that as a possible cause to all our issues. What is your thoughts on that and are you able to advice the UK Whitegoods code for these valves which appear to be a twin solenoid valve? I really appreciate your assistance and views on what seems to be an everlasting problem on what was always a very reliable washer.

[iadom]

It would do no harm to clean the small filter in the valve just inside the hose connection. If it is filling at a reasonable flow rate I can see no reason to change the valve.

[andyjawa]

Am I missing something here? “some evidence of rusting around the housing”- you aint wrong there!!! Via your picture with the motor removed that large worrying patch of rust looks from that angle that the tank has rusted away or in simple English something has either dripped onto the tank or the tank itself now leaking which since you have a base to the machine I presume you have an emergency float switch and so putting two and two together we have: a slight leak, drips onto base, triggers float switch = pumps out water = will not restart (fill) aborts programme or/and some water dripping on the motor surely?

[BryanC]

Hi, are you suggesting that a repair is not worth persuing ? There is no current evidence of dampness but obviously something has occured in the past but it is not obvious from where!

[iadom]

There is no float switch on this appliance. Water ingress on the thermistor was a known cause of spurious faults. That drum looks in a rather sorry state tbh and does appear terminal.:( Leaks from the soap dispenser and from a small grey plastic corrugated vent hose at the top rear left hand side (from the back) were common leak points.

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