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  • #209479
    Martin
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    Goatboy wrote:Any word on this from Electrue yet, Martin? 😕

    Early days yet GB 😉

    #209480
    eastlmark
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    Anyone had any probs with the Crosslee/whiteknight/Phillips tumble drier circular element? Have a machine have fitted 2 to, one Electrue pattern and one qualtex pattern and both earthed out after about 2 minutes.

    #209481
    Martin
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    Not fitted one for ages Mark but never had a problem with pattern ones as a rule, must be recent stock then? 😕

    With oven elements showing the same symptoms, if you isolate the earth then run them on full whack for a few minutes, it does clear the prob. Reconnect the earth and all is well. Have you tried that course of action I wonder?

    #209482
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    Only problems I have with the T/D elements you mention is trying to stop them catching on the inner drum, usually try and bend them a little before I fit them.

    Jim.

    #209483
    Goatboy
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    :bang:

    It’s gonna be one of them weeks!

    :rolls:

    “Hello young Goatboy. Can you fix my kettle please?”

    “Errrr, not really. Parts are rarely available and new kettles are too cheap!”

    “Oh, please Goatboy, I like this kettle?”

    Sigh! “Oh, there actually are some parts available for this model, lemme see what I can do.” 🙂

    So, it’s a R.Hobbs kettle that needs a new element. Electrue have a non-gen element for a few quid, and the customer is willing to spend £20 on getting it fixed.

    Then the element arrives 👿

    ELE7597 – Nothing like the original! Does it fit? Does it balls! Does it fit after an hour of modification? Does it balls! Why didn’t I listen to Martin?

    #209484
    kladave
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    just a quick note to let you all know, do not i repeat do not fit the connect/electrue pattern element ele9050 this fits the neff/bosch ovens that have the 1/2 moon element.The connections are much prouder than the original so the job can not be done without pulling the oven unit out.I thought i could save a few quid but it ain’t worth the grief 👿

    #209485
    fasetester
    Participant

    hi martin and guys is that a problum with all non genuin heating elements or just the bosch would you say always go for genuin if possible fasetester

    #209486
    rbartlett
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    I guess the answer would be for the manufacturers to price their spare at a reasonable rate 😯 . Looking at the genuine heaters why are the Bosch ones 50+{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} dearer than other makes?

    It’s pretty obvious that Bosch don’t actually make these parts them selves so who does?

    Cheers

    Richard

    #209487
    Goatboy
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    It’s always best to fit genuine elements, but some companies (Merloni) charge too much for them, and I find the high prices make customer’s lean toward new machine then 😕

    We’ve just had to use trail and error to see which non-gen stuff (from sereval different suppliers) is quality and which is crap!

    #209488
    walnut
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    At the end of the day pattern or original these element probably cost about 50p to make.
    Sometimes the partern part makers get the design wrong but if the original was any good you wouldn’t be changing it in the first place!

    #209489
    Martin
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    I’ve just recently had a bit of bother with the Qualtex (Bosch/Neff) Half-moon element for their ovens (ELE2052) burning out (within my 12 month warranty 🙁 ) I’ve only fitted 3 in total 2 of which on this one job! Before that I have always fitted the genuine article (494643) and have had no come-backs on those (so far?).

    Have any of you guys had the same bother I wonder?

    #209490
    Madmac
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    I fit a lot of qualtex fan elements & they certainly seem to have a fairly short life. Depends of course how much customer uses the thing. If it lasts a couple of years im impressed, mind u, some factory fit ones are no better. Also had spate of white k dryer ones throwing trips, must try pulling off earth for a few mins tho, never thought o that 😯

    #209491
    petalpop
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    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    spoke to a bosch/appliance care engineer and he reckons the life of these elements is shortened by customers leaving the door open and it cooling down too quick
    any truth in that?????????

    #209492
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    petalpop wrote:spoke to a bosch/appliance care engineer and he reckons the life of these elements is shortened by customers leaving the door open

    I for one am certain this is the case. In fact after the 2nd element change I insisted they pay closer attention to the time lapse whilst the oven door is left open with the element still burning? How I wish they had door microswitches on elements these days? :rolls:

    #209493
    cornflakes
    Participant

    Re: Pattern Heaters: A cautionary tale 🙁

    just picking up on this thread

    require for bosch oven HBN3550gb/02 top ovem element, it retails from BHS at around £70…now what is the alternative ……… cos your looking £100 pus for a simple element change..??? on a cheap oven anyway

    having had a few expereinces with patten bosch-neff half circle elements recently,, will now only by gen.

    how’s this for a precaution..my local supplier meggers evey pattern element he now recieves and if there is low reading..he bakes them..

    it does do the trick..

    but how many suppliers are prepared to buy in gen when the margins are so high on stuff with no country of origin.

    graham
    Leicestershire

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