Performing Rights Society

[EFS]

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A friend of mine also has a garage and in the customer waiting area is a sign stating that the radio is for his ears only and invites the customer to use a pair of disposable earplugs from the box below.

I don’t know if this gets round the law but it gets a few laughs.

Steve

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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bagman wrote:

leavemetogetonwithit wrote:

(You can watch all the best TV programmes for a month or so after they are broadcast using BBC’s own iPlayer and no license is needed.)
Mike.

Not true, check it out. The law was changed recently to ‘any device that is capable of displaying a TV picture will need a TV licence.’ This includes PC’s, mobile phones, PDA’s etc. Although having a home TV license covers all of the above.

You had me just slightly worried for a minute! So I checked their own site. BBC iPlayer
Mike.

[iadom]

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Just had to edit that link, I think its one of the longest I have ever seen, 😯 🙂

Jim.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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Thanks Jim. How is that done please? So I can do it myself next time.
Mike.

[EFS]

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bagman wrote:

leavemetogetonwithit wrote:

(You can watch all the best TV programmes for a month or so after they are broadcast using BBC’s own iPlayer and no license is needed.)
Mike.

Not true, check it out. The law was changed recently to ‘any device that is capable of displaying a TV picture will need a TV licence.’ This includes PC’s, mobile phones, PDA’s etc. Although having a home TV license covers all of the above.

How will they know you are watching?

They haven’t invented the lap top detector van yet have they?

Steve

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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EFS wrote:How will they know you are watching?

They haven’t invented the lap top detector van yet have they?

I’ve always wondered just how much power they have. I would think that to find out whether you had been watching (live) online they would have to be allowed access to your history/registry. Since you can clear those anytime you like, I think they’d have problems catching anyone. But there’s no need to cheat anyway. It’s quite legal to watch a programme from any channel that does a web service as long as you watch only after it’s broadcast.
Save yourselves £140 a year. How many programmes are worth watching anyway? I wouldn’t bother if it wasn’t free.
Mike.
PS. It’s more convenient to watch recorded programmes anyway because you can pause, skip the dull bits, watch when you’ve got a mo. etc.

[iadom]

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leavemetogetonwithit wrote:Thanks Jim. How is that done please? So I can do it myself next time.
Mike.

First copy the link to your clipboard then type <a href="
then right click and select paste to place the link into your post then type ” target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>

Then give your link an apt or clever name,

Then type there must be no gaps between the ] and [ symbols but you can have them in your apt or clever name. 😉

The tags don’t need to be bold, just did that to highlight them.

Click the preview button before you post to check on your handywork.

Jim.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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Thanks Jim, Will post links with amazingly apt and witty epithets from now on. 😆
Mike.

[bagman]

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Apologies, I was only going by what some BBC guy said on radio 4 last week. 🙁 Just goes to show even the broadcaster don’t have a clue what they’re doing.

[funkyboogy]

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we listen to music via youtube..what can they do about that

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hasnt phoned back

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[squadman]

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The PRS ( Performing Rights Society ) and also the MCPS handle the implemention of music, copyright, and where and when it can be played and performed.
These organisations have the full weight of the law behind them and operate worlwide. They can issue legal proceedings against any business or indivdual for the playing of music be it recorded, live performance in a public place or where the public can hear it.

If you have a CD or radio in your van thats legal, the minute you lower the window and it can be heard oustide that would in essence constitute a public peformance and the PRS could take action. If you use You Tube in a place where the public can hear then if the music is commercial music which 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of it is that music will have the necesarry rights and you would need a licence if more than you can hear it. None of this is new, its just that in these modern times the music industry is far more organised and all the artists, record and publishing companies are represented by the PRS & MCPS, the artists, bands, record and publishing companies get on with the job of making music and the PRS & MCPS have the job of collecting whats due to them all.

We have such a licence displayed at our premises and can play live or recorded music legally. Why do I bother, well firstly there was the case of the garage owner who was served with legal proceedings for the playing of a radio in his workshop where his customers could hear it. That needs a licence, when your next in ASDA doing your shopping tapping your feet to Def Leppard on the store music system, that needs a licence.

If you download MP3s from music sharing sites that is copyright infrigement and can carry heavy penalties in certain situations.

The way this all works from a songwriters perspective is that everytime their compostion gets played they receive a royality and this goes back a long way. You cannot really compare this to repairing a appliance and getting paid everytime it breaks in the future as the repairer did not create the appliance in the first place, go a try making a exact copy of a Dyson and market it and see what happens.

The money raised from the licences and royalties collected goes back to the songwriters, artists and bands who originally created the music just the same as if Take That want to cover a Barry Manilow song, they need his permission as they cannot just go and mangle the song, record it and then sit back and take the profits. The music industry is awash with examples of artists and musicians who have ( lifted ) parts or complete songs for their own use and then claimed they wrote it.

I can see how one would see it as another big brother tax heist and as much as I could use the £ 150.00 for something else I understand how it works in the artists favour many of who are not mulit million pound rich.

Get a licience before they turn up, a couple of months after we got a licence the area had PRS people doing spot checks and now all those business have a licence because if they come back and catch you a second time it will be far more costly !!!

[leavemetogetonwithit]

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squadman wrote:If you have a CD or radio in your van thats legal, the minute you lower the window and it can be heard oustide that would in essence constitute a public peformance and the PRS could take action.

💡 Why don’t they have representatives of PRS standing on every street corner recording the number plates of those pr**ks who think that every one of us shares their taste for loud booming rap.
Mike.

[squadman]

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For that scenario you need a couple of hefty boys with Sledgehammers, that would put paid to the likes of those who drive round with four to the floor booming systems.

[Alex]

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You see, I have no problem in rewarding people for the entertainment they give me. Some if it is well deserved. That is why if I hear something that appeals, I get the CD. Classic of that is Seldom Seen Kid from Elbow. Best album I’ve heard in a while and how dare anyone get it for free. The money I have put into the music industry in the last 50 years I think is plenty enough. If it wasn’t for incidental music such as this, I would never pick up on what I feel is a good tune, and subsequently go out and buy it. Therefore the purveyors of the music will lose out. If we can’t access it we are not drawn towards buying it. Conversely if we are not allowed to listen to it, then what is the point in having all these radio stations?

My doctors’ surgery used to have radio 2 in the waiting room. Now it is like sitting in the undertakers, all you hear now is coughing & wheezing. We are supposed to live in a modern happy country with music, birds a singing and all things cheerful. Now we have a morose premier, I suppose we all have to go round in silence with long faces, and all dressed in black or grey.

This is plainly appropriate in hairdressers etc. Along with pubs, shops amusement arcades etc. I see the point. However to pick on someone in their own private office, out of the public domain with a tranny on in the background is taking it to the extreme. If it is mandatory, then I shall take the radio out of the office.

So what about mobiles and the ring tones, people whistling in the street; this begs the question, how much is it costing to implement this, and is it ever worth it?

This to me is steering us to an autocratic society, I thought Leonid Brezhnev and his type were long gone. Perhaps we ought to move to North Korea.

There will be no winners in this, only losers.

Alex

[squadman]

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Alex I can see where you are coming from and agree with a lot of what you say about the nanny state. In fact we live in a police state, your fine until you raise your head above the parapit and then there are an array of laws which were forged in the name of national security which the suits can use against you. What would the world be without Music ? Dull as ditchwater, in fact Music is a hugely important human exeperience which can motivate the brain in a number of ways, how do you think Lionel Richie or Barry White ever became so popular with couples ! Music can make you happy it can make you sad but this legislation is not designed by any goverment department it is a product of the music industry.

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