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kwatt wrote:Google however aren’t a company for letting things lie and they’ve just had a big developer conference with some really interesting stuff in it for Android’s future. If they pull it all off it might become more attractive and maybe even pretty cool.
That’s good news then. We Androids will welcome the day when we can rub shoulders and walk side by side with the Apples. 😀
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Ken I am very happy you like your new phone and you are right Apple products work very well. But personally I don’t want to be sucked into the Apple cartel.
It’s fine if you dont mind paying twice the price for everything but what really are you getting.Speed. HTC Desire HD and iphone both run on a 1 ghz processer . Infact Desire come out slightly on top in a speed test.
HTC 8 meg cam Iphone 5meg.
HTC 4.3″ screen Iphone 3.5″
You also talk about the app store being rubbish. Music free on android you have to pay for most of it on itunes its just a closed shop.
Then you go onto compare the Ipad and tabs for some reason, don’t really know why as we are talking about phones, but as you brought it up. Why would anyone with a sound mind spend 500 quid on one. 😉Re: Which Smartphone ?
Google cartel.
Microsoft cartel.
Apple cartel.
Nokia cartel.
It’s only the flavour of cartel differs, they’re all locked down in one way or another. You just take your pick of which one you wanna go with. 😉
Then you decide what carrier cartel you want to go with as well.
For me it’s not about speed or the price especially as long as it’s not too silly. It’s about ease of use and the user experience, I want stuff to just work and be intuitive to use. The technical specification I could quite honestly care less about, it’s what the device does for me and how it does it that’s important.
You don’t have to use iTunes to buy music. Never bought a single track from them but I have access to about 10,000 albums or so in various formats, just import them and away you go.
In fact, come to think of it, I’ve never bought a digital track. None of them provide full bandwidth recordings and the quality is of greater concern to me than the convenience of whatever downloady thingy widget they come up with. And, I don’t download it illegally either, the quality is generally rank.
So I care not one jot about downloading music, it has absolutely no interest to me.
Screen size, don’t care. I like the iPhone size and love the display on the 4.
Why would I spend £500 on one, easy…
It works.
It does what I want it to do.
It synchs all my contacts, calendars, voice mail, notes, to-do’s, email accounts and more across the air with all four PCs I use and my tablet without any intervention so all the data I need is always where I want it. To do that with Android or Windows Phone is nigh on impossible unless you’re a technical whizz kid and, even then it’s a challenge from what I can gather.
It’s a joy to use.
I can plug it into the car and it just works via Bluetooth or hard connection.
Angry Birds is just better. 😉
And probably a bunch of reasons I’ve forgotten.
The comparison of tablets to phones is real simple, they all share common OS platforms. iOS, Android and WM, the comparisons transfer between the devices just as the OSs do and I was talking about the usability of them comparatively.
I also think that, after first dismissing the tablet thing completely I was absolutely wrong with my hasty judgement. If you ask me, the tablet is the device for engineers in the field for tech info and likely a truckload of other things. A phone’s good and a really useful device but, I would argue that a tablet was better suited to many of the tasks required.
K.
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Ok. I understand what your saying it,s the software you like and the way it interacts with other Apple products.
I carn’t knock the Iphone software it works well but you have to buy the other products ie mac, pad and so on to get the full experiance.
This means when I change my phone I could be spending a few grand to get the experiance your talking of. 😯
You don’t have to be a whizz to sync your email to a Android just type your email and password in once job done. I have no interest in sync calanders and so on as its of no use to me but I’m sure its just as easy.
I can bluetooth or hard conect mine in the car no probs.Talking of music I can listen to the radio while out walking with mine you carn’t with a Iphone. 😆
Angry birds , bet you have to pay for that as well. 😆Still dont see the point of Ipad would be better of with one of them small flip round laptops that double as a pad. :stir:
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Yes, the whole package just works better.
Even in isolation, IMO, it’s better.
No, you don’t need to buy a whole bunch of stuff, the iPhone software talks to Windows things as well. How well I don’t know, not used Windows unless forced to in yonks.
In Android you can’t synch account settings, rules, signatures etc. and you sure can’t use a service like me.com without expense for that only. The good thing about the me.com thing is, it just does it all no geeks required. Or brains really truth be told.
Which also gives you cloud storage and a few other nifty little tools besides that. Comes in handy when you need a file or whatever when you’re several hundred or, a few thousand miles from your desktop. 😉
Radio I can’t say I’m fussed about. I can pick up the book I was reading on the iPad on my phone and continue where I left off, play games, watch some TV shows, movies, listen to music, work… I’m not exactly strapped for something to do. And, if I really, really wanted to go look I’m sure I could stream net radio or even get a tuner to plug into it but, I’ve no clue as I’ve never been bored or interested enough to bother looking.
Had a radio on an old Nokia and an HTC thingy, never used it.
A convertible seems like a good idea but, trust me, it really isn’t. It’s a flawed idea at best, flaky and ultimately not robust enough for use in the field IMO. Got one, gave it to the kids eventually after I’d done messing with it. They like it for Club Penguin so it can’t be all bad.
K.
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K what all this goes to show is we want different things out of our phones .
Yours obviously works well for you but I would say the average joe will not use most of the features you mention they want a phone to make calls go on tinternet while on the lav :oops:.Maybe email and a few games which most Android phones do just as well or better than Iphone .
I don’t have a few girls in the office who can do a comparison but tech radar or tech guys can’t remember which did a comparison, a phone fight if you like. It was HTC Desire, Iphone and Samsung s in that order .So it really is each to there own. 😉 .
Think I’ll keep my pound notes in my pocket for now and not give them to Steve Jobs. 😆
:offtopic: Laptop or convertable against a Ipad .Come on I would whoop you all day long on spec alone on that one.Re: Which Smartphone ?
It’s not about specs to me rolf, they don’t matter one single iota. Phones or anything else. What the device does, how well it does it and how well it’s made do.
The former to me is just the “mine’s bigger than yours” game. It’s utterly meaningless to me.
Consider it like this, to me it’s like saying that an Indesit is better than a Miele because the Indesit is 10 minutes quicker to wash and can take 1kg more of laundry. In isolation you can pick holes in any product feature by feature be it a phone, a PC, a car… whatever.
K.
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My only smartphone concern is that I’m stuck on Angry Birds ‘Ham ’em high'(level 14)…..been trying for days…….I must have a dose of the androids or summat….can’t figure it at all. 🙁
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Martin trying to find out but I don’t have ham em high . I proberly have older version “sent from Rolfs bog on Android.”
Yes Ken mine is bigger than yours .Re: Which Smartphone ?
i have an i phone 3gs , brilliant phone as i love gadgets , has everything you could possible need .useful for picking up random wifi signals when on the road for internet ordering etc, only prob its on o2 :rolls: absolute shhhh…lets the phone down ,so i divert my incoming calls to my 10 year old 6230 nokia on t mobile 😆 only 6 months contract left :rolls:
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Ken Said:
I also think that, after first dismissing the tablet thing completely I was absolutely wrong with my hasty judgement. If you ask me, the tablet is the device for engineers in the field for tech info and likely a truckload of other things. A phone’s good and a really useful device but, I would argue that a tablet was better suited to many of the tasks require.When I first saw the i pad I thought mm Very Nice, but Expensive, then I thought actually for the salesman, Service Engineer it would be a great move and I can see how one would use it for such things. I am a Apple Convert no mistake and have a Mac Book Pro, and 8 Core I Mac and I phone, love them all. One of the things that does wind me up is that Mr Jobs will not allow Flash to run on the i phone with now real reasons other than commercial interests at the heart of it. Adobe and Apple do not seem to get on even though Adobe have tried to bridge this Gap with the Apple camp.
As far as tablets are concerned there all loads of other offerings available from Samsung and Acer and Asus. This options are cheaper, more fully featured than the Apple I Pads and for the engineer are the way forward for a number of reasons. Apple started the i pad idea but are now lagging behind some very strong competition from the aforementioned companies. On this basis although I love the design and innovation of Apple Products I would not buy the I pad and would look elsewhere.
Other than this OSX is my OS of choice !
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But again, the point is lost.
It’s not about the cost, the spec’s, the looks, it’s about how good it is to use.
The iPad or rather iOS lags behind how exactly? Or is that based completely on the basis that the motto is, “no Flash, no crash”? Which, it just so happens, IME happens to be pretty darned accurate.
There’s good reason that Flash is left behind. 😉
K.
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OK I’ll admit I’m confused with all this technology but I need a new phone and my TDS won’t load onto my laptop and in my other post it’s mentioned about these devices. I’ve always thought a phone= a phone but I would like some tech info with me, so..
Whats the cost?
do they work from the start or are there extras to pay?
are they easy to work?
do they download tech info?
and finally…do you reckon I could manage it?
RobRe: Which Smartphone ?
It’s all about what you prefer to carry really..A Tablet is a good choice ..But i went for the samsung galaxy s smartphone as mentioned..
Mine worked right out of the box and is sim free so i can use any sim card .
Depends if you want it on a contract .
There are loads of free stuff you can download from the marketplace which comes with the phone .You can also buy some applications from the market place which are really cheap but i have not need to yet.
I had no problem getting my tech stuff on the phone but i am pretty good at sorting things out on pcs..
Cost is roughly about £300 for the galaxy s now and they do have the new galaxy s2 out which is a lot more.
That’s if you buy it outright like i did ,then you just choose what sort of package you need i.e internet,calls etc..
like on most phones..
Or you can go to one of the phone shops and get the phone free with a contract .I did have the i phone 4 but changed it for the above and prefer this .It’s quick to access the internet and have had no issues with adding tech stuff to the phone.
There is a couple of good forums that are pretty helpful if you get stuck using the phone.
It’s just a matter of playing around with it and finding what you need.It all depends on whether you want a new phone that can work like a pc or go for just a Tablet pc.
For me the phone is just the right size to fit in my pocket and i can easily read my pdfs on the screen in page view.
I am sure others will chime in on what they have.
It’s just a matter of which you go for..I am well happy with mine and it’s now replaced my laptop for tech stuff and what not.
shaun
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