[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

Jackal wrote:Why should we make it a paid for site? because you say so! Get down off your high horse because your digging a hole for yourself.

On another post you said this forum, which clearly in your opinion owes you some sort of debt of gratitude because you have posted on it, you said you were not going to post again as it didn’t serve your purpose.

And yet here you are being as argumentative as you can. It seems to me that unless we all agree with your way of doing things we are all wrong.

You have posted your response and findings on your original problem and I see no need to continue the thread further.

I will not permit this or any other thread to degenerate into a slanging match and so this ends now.

Jackal
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good thank god for that you can remove me from this stupid offensive forum too I cant believe members can get away with calling new members Idiots and making fun of them as well!

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

Jackal wrote:The customer ‘idiots’ we encounter pay for our silence when their back is turned, maybe that’s the difference.

Jackal

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make this website a paid for service then, make people donate money through paypal as they are asking for advice . I am getting the vibes that people are a bit peeved for me asking a question, getting free answers and that its OK to abuse me and call me names because the site is free and offers free advice, so are you saying if I paid a donation to the site and asked my question(s) then I wouldnt have been called an idiot or laughed at for what I wanted to achieve?

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

I wonder if the same ‘engineers’ who called me an idiot say the same about their customers behind their back, the ones that maybe wreck their own machines in other ways like overloading the washing machine, never emptying the drain filter, never doing a maintenance wash, using wrong soap powder, finding bra wire stuck in between inner and outer drum, or plumbing in the washing machine wrong? people, and especially people who work with the public these days need to learn a bit of manners. I repair computers and I cant tell you the amount of ‘idiotic’ things I have seen people do to their own PC’s but would I dream of answering them back as being idiots, of course I wouldnt, but then maybe thats the difference between me and some other people on here.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

DrDill wrote:I rest my case, Idiot.
Our experience is based on known faults that occur, not faults that are created by idiots trying to redisign appliances. You chose to post here and now you are upset because i dont agree with your meddling and i for one dont want to give you advice on altering the manufacturers settings or worse still on how to electrocute yourself. Idiot.

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oh for goodness sakes have heard it all now, if the contact for the tacho came loose and not making contact because of washing machine vibration would that not be a known fault or what would you do tell the customer it needs a new contol board or new motor? … yeah I suppose you would because thats what a lot of washing machine engineers do!! -instead of looking to see if its a loose wire or contact – jeez I think I am in the wrong job I think i should take up repairing washing machines. Yes I created the fault by mucking about with it, but say if the scenario was that in normal vibration of the machine or that the factory did not push the plug all the way correctly into the motor I would come on here and ask “my hotpoint dont move on, the drum turns a bit and then stops”, I would expect an answer like “well you should call out a hotpoint engineer seeing as it under guarantee, but seeing as you have already had the back off I would be looking at checking for loose wires in the tacho area but mind because there is high voltages on the control board” – not to be told I was the one that caused it by messing around with motor wiring. If someone was being helpful they could have said “seeing as you were messing around with the motor wiring make sure you have pushed the connectors fully back in or look at the connectors for any that are bent and not making contact” .. instead of people telling me i am an Idiot!

WTF has it got to do with anyone on here whether I have damaged my machine or shouldnt be modifying adjusting it against what its manufactured to do! – di you pay for it? – no, so but out of telling me to do and not what to do to MY OWN WASHING MACHINE that I paid for, not you!

WTF has it got to do if I electrocute myself – you dont know me, your not related to me, by the sounds of it you think I am idiot so why are you bothered about me electrocuting myself! – and for the record I have been repairing TV’s and computers and other electrical products and I know what large capacitors do even when the machine is unplugged. Have even got a few shock along the way even when taking the utmost care in handling stuff which i am almost certain washing machine engineers have got from time to time.

Look if this was a friendly washing machine help forum I would have posted “my hotpoint washing machine wont move on, I have had the back of and been fiddling around with the wires that go to the motor and now it wont move on and wont spin what could the problem be?” and someone helpful would have replied “I would re-check the wiring going to the motor first is there any loose leads or bent contacts, if not there is a possibility that you have blown the motor Triac or something else on the main controller board at the bottom of the machine” – I werent asking what do you think of me fiddling around with the wiring, or please tell me if you think I am an idiot. so people who are not going to offer helpful advice and just wanted to reply and disrespect me should have just butted out and keep their opinions to their bloody selves! …

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

DrDill wrote:It matters not one jot which way it spins, Well i have come to the same conclusion, one word. Idiot!

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and people like you on here (washing machine engineers???) could not tell me to check the Tacho wiring or the tacho at the back of the motor to see if thats what the problem was? but instead abuse me and name calling, and want to know why I want it to spin clockwise rather than give me helpful advice I was looking for? – I think you ones need to look in the mirror and ask who the real idiot is here!

Now saying all that Einstein was branded an Idiot and look what happened to him! so there 😛

Now how to I leave this stupid childish forum because have gone into user control panel and cant see anywhere to close account! any answers or are ye just gonna reply with “why do you want to leave this forum, this forum works as it should – idiot?” …..

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Jackal wrote:Martin your being optimistic aren’t you!!

Every one knows being a Hotpoint it will have broken BEFORE question 3.

Oh ye of little faith ……. or experience!!

Jackal wrote:Maybe for the Irish market they should be badged Hotpotato. Ha ha

I like that 🙂

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Muv wrote:I hear that on the next generation of hotpoints, they will hve a small touch screen unit..
Basically it will ask things like

Do you want reverse spin? Yes..no…don’t really mind

Do you want interlock to go .”bang,bang,bang. Or just bang? Yes/no

Display colour Red,green,pink,orange, or user defined.?

Washing sound effects. Yes/no

Andy you have given us all a chuckle, and for that we are grateful…
Maybe you should get a job with hotpoint ?

Martin

Sounds like the kind of machine i want to buy ….

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Muv wrote:Are u happy with it washing in a anticlockwise direction?

Maybe it takes in to little water?

Have u measured the time a wash takes, to the actual times quoted..

And if i were you id also check the length if the mains lead… Compared to your old machine!

right am happy with it spinning Clockwise now,

It used to take in too little water so I have adjusted the screw on the water level switch,

There was no quoted times for a wash the manual says look at the display for times,

The mains lead is a bit long but can live with it,

Have de-soldered the blasted Buzzer behind the fascia,

Next project one day is to change the colour of the LCD display from Orange to blue (like my old hotpoint WF840),

Another project one day is to see if I can quieten the door lock switch on it so it doesnt go “bang, bang,bang” after end of cycle …

I think thats it apart from those things a cracking little machine and I have figured that I have already voided the warranty on it I may as well go to town and get it how I want it.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

DrDill wrote:You say you fixed the problem, but there wasnt a problem to start with, you have wasted so many hours of your life almost akin to reinventing the wheel! Its a mad mad world!

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yeah there was – it Spun the wrong way 😆 its like when people Swing the wrong way, its not right, its unusual! 😉

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question (Solved!!)

16/10/12: I think I have found the problem once and for all and as a bonus I have the machine doing its final spin with the Drum going in a clockwise direction (like all my previous washing machines! and the way it should always be!!) all along I think all it was, was a pin on the motor wiring loom (motor end) that was open and not making contact properly only sometimes (one of the taco wires) so after closing that up so it makes proper contact and swapping the blue and black phase wires on the motor side of the loom the machine spins an a clockwise direction and goes through proper cycles, the machine couldnt have been getting a proper signal from the tacho and that why it kept stopping. Well i am hoping thats what it it, its early days yet but it looks promising! 🙂 I think my perseverance has finally paid off maybe! 😀

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: is everything OK with EMW Electronics?

16/10/12: I think I have found the problem once and for all and as a bonus I have the machine doing its final spin with the Drum going in a clockwise direction (like all my previous washing machines! and the way it should always be!!) all along I think all it was, was a pin on the motor wiring loom (motor end) that was open and not making contact properly only sometimes (one of the taco wires) so after closing that up so it makes proper contact and swapping the blue and black phase wires on the motor side of the loom the machine spins an a clockwise direction and goes through proper cycles, the machine couldnt have been getting a proper signal from the tacho and that why it kept stopping. Well i am hoping thats what it it, its early days yet but it looks promising! 🙂 I think my perseverance has finally paid off maybe! – so really I neednt have sent the board away, could have saved some money by not doing that.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on (Solved!!)

Update 16/10/12: I think I have found the problem once and for all and as a bonus I have the machine doing its final spin with the Drum going in a clockwise direction (like all my previous washing machines! and the way it should always be!!) all along I think all it was, was a pin on the motor wiring loom (motor end) that was open and not making contact properly only sometimes (one of the taco wires) so after closing that up so it makes proper contact and swapping the blue and black phase wires on the motor side of the loom the machine spins an a clockwise direction and goes through proper cycles, the machine couldnt have been getting a proper signal from the tacho and that why it kept stopping. Well I am hoping thats what it it, its early days yet but it looks promising! 🙂 I think my perseverance has finally paid off maybe! 😀

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

DrDill wrote:What makes me laugh is the fact you broke your own machine, call engineers for their rip off fees and then post on here for our help, i have one word for you. Idiot!

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Haha this is a totally useless forum Im gonna leave it anyway all I have been getting on here is abuse from repliers which is not helpful answers at all! – just call out an engineer, its all your fault for messing about with the wiring on the motor blah blah blah…. and there only seems to be one or 2 people answering me anyway so i cant see the point in being on this forum anymore to be honest.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

I un-soldered that bloody buzzer as well behind the fascia of the WMUD843P why i had the lid off seeing as helpful hotpoint didnt make it simple to turn on and off the sound with pressing a couple of buttons on the front – much better now.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint WMUD843 not moving on

madangler1 wrote:The thing is i’m not being funny but you caused this problem by trying to reverse the direction of the motor on the 3 phase, the more you play the more damage you are likely to cause, these are fully electronic machines, a laptop is used to fully diagnose problems and error on the electronics. these machine can also give off a high voltage shock if parts are not handled correctly, the WMUD is a very new machine, I’m guessing you have damaged or burnt out the wiring and or other components somewhere.

The only real advice I will give you is call an expert, on such a new machine call Hotpoint, take out an insurance policy or pay the one off fee and when they come out tell them what you have done so the engineer can have an idea where to start.

Thanks for the reply. A bit further on now I have got a real suspicion theres a loose connection of the motor wiring plug not up the motor end but up the control board end. After taking out the control board and spraying the contacts where the mtor wires plug onto plugged it in and it worked as normal and done a full wash with no problems. Just thought I would pass this on just in case someone else having same kind of problem. No all i have to hope is that when I put the control board back into the machine that it still makes contact. I dont like the quality of the contacts on these machine so cheap looking feel to them and there is no clip or anything on the control board to stop the connectors from moving or coming off, I suppose on the older machines they would have been done with proper female spade connectors or soldered onto the board.

Ah yes I know all about high voltages that’s why always been careful to just handle the plastics on the control board even when the machine has even been plugged out for 10 minutes. There a humungus big black capacitor on the control board and i would say that could give you a nasty nip if you touched that board. I used to fix TV’s as well a few years ago they used to hold their charge even when unplugged.

Hey listen I would be the first to call out a washing engineer if they werent so bloody expensive something like 80euro just for callout charge before even doing anything – no thanks. I repair computers for a living, but i dont rip people off with a high callout charge before doing anything, I still have to get equipment and pay to put fuel in my vehicle and I dont charge extortionate labour charges either. Most stuff in washing machines these days can be easily got at, unplugged and exchanged for another part so easily now so why high extortionate labour charges? – plus i like the feeling of tinkering meself and getting things working again.

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