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ParticipantThanks (again) for your response. So, a couple of more ‘technical’ questions…..what kind of tension should be on the belt? I can push it in about 3/8”. Should it be less, or is this ok?
Thanks for the info about the front and back springs….I was wondering if they were the same. As I’ve never replaced them, and assume that they are 40 years old, I’ll look for them to replace.
LOL about the concrete blocks. The bolts on them are 10mm on my machine (wrong size? Original? Changed?) I didn’t touch them.
With the machine off, and top panel off, just how much side to side movement is that drum supposed to have, before you suspect there is something wrong? When my suspension rod broke, I could easily tell that the drum was listing to one side. Now the drum is upright and centered, and I can move it about the same ‘distance’ left to right and front to back.
And thank you for your last sentence. I kind of got the impression that you might have thought I was some kind of whack job, putting all this effort into this old machine. I have hit a number of ‘snags’ in my repairs in the past….the drum pump wasn’t ‘plug and play’, I wasn’t strong enough to do the bearings or suspension rod by myself (but the guy who helped me actually told his wife how my efforts to repair was amazing and admirable…lol), those tub clips are almost beyond my capacity to clip on, etc.
But I couldn’t have done any of this without the amazing help from this forum……inisfad
ParticipantWill do. Thank you. The springs on the top have never been replaced, and after the overloaded mat wash, when investigating where this new leak was from, I noticed that the rear spring had disengaged. It was not all that difficult to re-engage it, just with my hands, so perhaps the springs, after 40 years, aren’t as tense as they should be. Are they very important when it comes to the drum movement?? Anyway, I’ll check that, as well as check around the suspension legs. When I replaced the suspension rods, the one under the big inlet hose had actually broken in bits, due to rust. When we replaced that rod, the metal around it looked ok, but I’ll check around there again. I’ll also check and tighten the belt.
What about those concrete blocks, particularly the one under the drum? I’ve never done anything with them. I’m assuming that the bolts need to be tight, etc., correct?
As you can tell from the myriad of threads I’ve had hear, replacing just about everything (forgot to mention that I’ve also replaced the pump), I’m trying to keep this machine going for as long as I can…..it’s a matter of principle. The new machines only have a cold intake and force you to heat the water that you use, which I disagree with, particularly as I have excellent hot water in my cylinder to use. This machine has an ‘economy wash’, which brings the hot water in from my cylinder….Anyway, thank you for your suggestions.inisfad
ParticipantJust wanted to come back here, and wish you guys a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Without you, I wouldn’t have been able to keep my Hotpoint going. I thank you for all the kindness and patience you gave to me during the year, and hope that 2023 will be kind to you and your families. You deserve it!! Thank you again, and a very happy holiday to you.
(PS. Will probably see you in 2023…lol!!!)inisfad
ParticipantLOL…glad to finally give you some info that you didn’t know. Thanks for the instructions…it seems to be the same idea as to when I change the alternator belt in my car. Loosening those bolts after 40 years might be a bit of an adventure, of course. Thanks again for your help!
inisfad
ParticipantI tried to order that, but this site will not ship to Ireland, where I am…:(. I found this, which appears to be the same belt, and they will ship to Ireland: https://www.merseyspares.co.uk/products/1245-j5-genuine-016-2180-02-161609-tumble-dryer-belt-for-creda-hotpoint
So, is this belt a different length than my original belt, and the motor will have to be adjusted? Can you give a bit more info on doing this? Presumably the motor has a way of being moved and rebolted for the different length???inisfad
ParticipantAh, thank you. Yes, I am finding ‘J1245’ on some of the sites that have the belt. I’ll make sure that the belt I buy has that, as well as the part number. Thanks for your info.
inisfad
Participantiadom wrote:Just to add I have seen machines work for years with one spoke missing.:)
LOL! And good to know. I was nervous about using it with the hairline crack in that one spoke. It is truly tiny…I only found it by running my fingernail over the spokes. All the others are completely free of any cracks. So at least I can continue to do laundry while I wait for my new drum pulley. I ordered it yesterday so I’ll get it soon. By the way, thank you so much for the manual that you sent me. It gives me the proper part numbers, so I don’t have to spend hours researching to see if the parts I’m looking to buy are the right ones.
inisfad
ParticipantAh, yes, I understand that. Of course, if I had a newer machine, many of the repairs that I’ve done on this one, would have been impossible for me to do. For example, I understand that it is no longer possible to replace drum bearings. Instead, machines need to be replaced rather than repaired. The list of things I’ve replaced is a bit daunting: carbon brushes in the motor, drum bearings, spider, pump, hot and cold water valves, suspension rod, door gasket, door glass and door surround (the last two I found in the recyclers). I suppose if I add the cost (and time) of all of this up, it would have been cheaper just to buy a new machine. But there’s also a certain sense of accomplishment that I’ve done this all myself (with your help, of course). And new machines not allowing me to use an economy wash is a matter of principle. It would be interesting to know how many of those original millions of machines are still in use….:)
inisfad
ParticipantAh, ok, thanks. The crack is only on one of the legs, and it’s more like a hairline fracture. I seriously examined all the others, and could only find the one, so I should be ok until the new pulley comes. Strange how no one seemed to have this pulley, but loads of internet sites had the 30mm pulley nut. Anyway, as ever, thanks for all your help.
Jane
inisfad
ParticipantLOL…Just ordered the one off of ebay. The guy confirmed that it’s the right part number for my machine. Thanks again for your help.
inisfad
ParticipantIs it correct that the drum pulley on my machine would be the deeper one? I’ve ‘measured’ (without trying to wrestle with the 30mm nut) and come up with a depth of about 2.5” from the bottom of the rim to the bottom of where it would thread into the tub. I see that the shop here has this:
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/169412-hotpoint-creda-others-washer-drive-pulley
But I’m assuming from the photo, at least, that this is not what I’m looking for, as at least the photo shows this pulley not to be as deep as mine. Is that correct?
And also, if the pulley leg breaks while I’m doing a wash, what happens? Can I keep using the machine until I find a replacement???inisfad
Participanthttps://www.ebay.ie/itm/165401725077?hash=item2682b60895:g:T8gAAOSwXkFiPd~V
This is all I can find. What do you think??inisfad
ParticipantIt appears that the pulley is not available in the shop here, and I’m getting the ‘part obsolete’ on a couple of other sites. By any chance, do you have any link to someplace where this pulley might still be available??
inisfad
Participantelectrofix wrote: check the spokes of the pulley
if a spoke breaks you will get a click noiseDave
Bingo. As usual, you’re brilliant. There’s a hairline crack in one of the pulley spokes. I’ll get a new one. In the interim, can I use the machine? What happens if the spoke breaks during a wash? The hairline break is just at the beginning of the spoke, above the 30mm nut. I’ll check the shop here to see availability. I have the part number (161228), and might as well order another belt, while I’m at it. I imagine you might think I’m being a bit bizarre, putting all this effort into a 40 year old machine. One of the deterrents to buying a new one, for me, is that you can no longer buy machines with the ‘economy wash’, where the machine takes the hot water out of the cylinder, but forces you to electrically heat water, every time you do a wash…..Anyway, I’ve gone this far with this machine, so might as well keep going, as it’s working great now. Thanks, as usual for your guidance.
inisfad
ParticipantAnd in thinking about your info, I did notice that when I spun the pulley without the belt on it, the pulley seemed to be a bit ‘warped’, in that it didn’t revolve completely straight…..so maybe that’s a hint that one of the spokes is ready to give up. In continuing to completely refurbish this machine, perhaps now a new pulley is in order. Will check it.
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