[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

electrofix wrote:video is a bit difficult to see. if your camera stayed in one place it would be easier to see

look in the door of the machine and spin the drum there. look at the drum front lip and see how much run out there is. a small amount is ok but over about quarter inch and it could be a spider crack. if there is a crack in one let the drum will bend the remaining legs and start to hit things

did you look at the heater for signs of metal to metal contact. more important did you check the old one

Dave

Yes it was difficult to keep steady lying upside down on the floor with a light!!!

I did look for metal to metal contact on the new heater, the knocking wasn’t present before, and couldn’t see any.

There’s a few mills run out but not too extreme.

Will try a wet cycle tomorrow.

Thanks again Dave :tup:

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

Mattypompy99 wrote:OK. I’ve had another look inside the tub through the element aperture and can’t see any obvious catching objects.

The spin of the drum is smooth and silent. The terminal ends of the spider arms seem secure by feel.

Here are a couple of flicks. Spielberg isn’t worried!

I don’t mind doing stripping it to replace the spider, found one for £45, but am debating getting a borescope to look first instead of a strip. Thanks for link btw Dave.

I’ll do a spin test minus element first.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71043822@ … res/t1623E
Cheers

😆

It won’t go into spin only cycle now. I do have the element removed and the water off though 😮

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

OK. I’ve had another look inside the tub through the element aperture and can’t see any obvious catching objects.

The spin of the drum is smooth and silent. The terminal ends of the spider arms seem secure by feel.

Here are a couple of flicks. Spielberg isn’t worried!

I don’t mind doing stripping it to replace the spider, found one for £45, but am debating getting a borescope to look first instead of a strip. Thanks for link btw Dave.

I’ll do a spin test minus element first.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71043822@ … res/t1623E
Cheers

😆

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

Oic what you mean now! I didn’t think the other photos were viewable!

Thought the parking fine ones were on a separate URL! Oh well could’ve been worse! 👿 😛 :rotfl: I got off one!

I’ll try and get a better bracket pic. Its difficult though. I think I may have bent it inadvertently on element install. May just need a little tweaking hopefully.

Thanks

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

It was awkward to he the right snap as I had to hold a lamp to shine in at the same time. Basically the weird shaped metal thing top rightish is the element support bracket in the element aperture.

Looking at it on the pic it looks kind of bent actually? Might be catching on the drum. If its a spigot is it a right off do you think?

What other photo collection?! 😮

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

Martin wrote:It could be the drum support spigot has broken? Easily spotted from the front as the drum rotates a little off centre as it rotates at low speed. Just remove the belt then spin drum by hand and see if it has a very slight elliptical orbit.

Hi Martin,

After flooding the kitchen floor again! (Did a drain cycle then removed element thinking it was empty!) I removed belt and spun drum.

There is a slight bearing crunch noise but the drum spins freely with no resistance. There is a slight elliptical spin. I would estimate about 7mm in the vertical. Is that an issue?

Also with the element removed I couldn’t replicate the knock spinning manually. I think it may be catching on the drum when on spin cycle. Also one of the springs is a bit squeaky but the dampers seem OK.

I intend to do a dry spin cycle minus the element to check for the knock next.

Any other suggestions? :snig:

Thank you kindly for the input :tup:

https://flic.kr/p/25Gq2yi

Element bracket above.

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

Martin wrote:It could be the drum support spigot has broken? Easily spotted from the front as the drum rotates a little off centre as it rotates at low speed. Just remove the belt then spin drum by hand and see if it has a very slight elliptical orbit.

Thanks Martin. I’ll check that out. I was reading about spider support arms too!

Cheers bud

[Mattypompy99]

Re: Knocking on spin cycle, help please?

electrofix wrote:when you replaced the heater did you ensure the end went into the restraint.
if it did not it can wobble and catch the drum

Dave

Yes I saw that restraint. Maybe I didn’t locatte it correctly. Thanks. I’ll take the element out and have a look. I guess I just put it in and ensure it feels secure?
Thank you

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

Put it all back together with the element disconnected and it worked! No tripping of the RCD.

I’ll order an element.

Thanks for the friendly advice Dave. Good man :tup:

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

Reading is 1ohm on the element. I didn’t earth correctly. Hopefully I’ve found the culprit. Will turn mains on later. Thanks again.

Matt

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

electrofix wrote:its not what’s on the heater its whether its got an earth fault

did you try to run the machine with the heater wires disconnected ?

dave

I didn’t run the machine as it was quite wet and damp at the bottom as a draining tube came loose so I’m letting it dry out for a few hours.

I know it’s not about the deposits on the element but I thought I’d have a look it needs cleaning anyway and will increase efficiency. Was just wondering what’s best to clean it.

I’ll put it back together later and test it. I have done multimeter tests and it runs about 30 ohm.

How does one test the mains filter? I ran a resistance test on the 4 pins and alternating pairs, 1+3 & 2+4, throw out about 2ohms. Is that normal do you know?

Thanks a lot for reading Dave :tup:

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

I removed the heating element and it was disgusting with detritus and limescale. :bang:

Can I clean with a solution of caustic soda, like for cleaning plug holes, do you think?

https://flic.kr/p/FKKJZt

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

electrofix wrote:there is also the wash heater as well

Dave

Any idea his to locate the wash heater element?! 😯

I found it after taking the back panel off. Read 30ohm across the terminals. There was quite a lot of water in the shell due to the drain pipe from the filter coming loose. I’ve reconnected it and will let it dry. I cannot see any obvious scorching.

Thanks for the help Dave.

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

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So the above is a pic from above. I’ll try and disconnect the heating component and maybe some other earth testing and go from there.

I guess the metal shroud at the top is the heating element for the drying program. It stopped when it had filled with some water. :tup:

[Mattypompy99]

Re: RCD tripped by Washer Dryer help please!

electrofix wrote:Black powder may just be belt dust

Dave
OK bud, thanks. I thought it may be carbon from the brushes. Cheers

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