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July 2, 2007 at 10:39 am #153025
Del
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Sorry I forgot to mention the identity cards.
As you know we issue jobs from members of the public who contact the site for help and subsequently a service call to our members.
You are also aware that for service providers to be included in the free Repairs@ scheme that they are obliged to read sign and adhere to the service charter agreement.
It has been suggested many times on the site that Identity cards would be a good idea for customers to be aware that the person calling is actually an approved member of the Repairs@ scheme. So the customer is aware of just who is calling at her door.
Strictly speaking this is just a suggested requirement for UKW Repairs@ members only but I would see no reason that if that same member was also a member of say a TA, CORGI, FSB, that this information could also be included on the card along with skill sets if required.
HTH
Sean
July 2, 2007 at 10:44 am #153026Jackal
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It seems to me in the various threads now running on the subject that no one has yet said No we don’t need a new trade association because of …..
All I have seen over the now 100’s of posts is yes we need it but I want it to do this or that.
So definitely we need to do it. Stop talking about it and start the process, the whole point of the TA once running is to follow the democratic wishes of its membership. We cannot set out an agenda for work until we form the association. So lets form the UK Whitegoods Independent Service Engineers Trade Association or UKWISE for short. :D:D or whatever its to be called.
I am glad to see Ken and Sean having the debate it shows that you both want the same goal but see the attainment of it in different ways. I agree with Sean, the only ones entitled to carry the TA card and TA logos should be full subscribing members of the TA. I agree with Ken, we need to do something to ensure that joining and paying the fee is going to be both rewarding and beneficial to the applicant. So I am in agreement with both of you.
Now for something controversial, I propose that if the subs be converted to a TA as was suggested, that next year the sub be raised to £100 to cover the additional costs of running the TA. Full members can then get the cards or whatever at cost or for free. Why not advertise it, join now for £65 or whatever it currently is or next year pay the full amount.
I am pretty sure most of us can afford the increase and I understand UKW allow the fee to be paid by monthly standing order.
Just my thoughts
Carl
July 2, 2007 at 11:22 am #153027Del
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Good god Carl! don’t you realise that that is almost £2 per week! 😯
That’s my pension plan gone for a burton…. 😆
Tell you what though, it would be the best cople of quid anyone in this trade ever spent for many a long year with the calibre of guys we could call upon to really work for the trade as a whole and not just themselves. 😉
Sean
July 2, 2007 at 11:34 am #153028VillageIdiot2
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Jackal wrote:So definitely we need to do it. Stop talking about it and start the process, the whole point of the TA once running is to following the democratic wishes of its membership. We cannot set out an agenda for work until we form the association. So lets form the UK Whitegoods Independent Service Engineers Trade Association or UKWISE for short. :D:D
Here here!
July 29, 2007 at 2:48 pm #153029kwatt
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So do we just get on with this ID card thing then?
If it’s a positive I’ll start to get it sorted this week.
K.
July 29, 2007 at 4:39 pm #153030johnmac11
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Go for it Ken
JohnJuly 29, 2007 at 9:01 pm #153031clivejameson
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Any chance of posting up a preview Ken?
July 29, 2007 at 9:57 pm #153032kwatt
KeymasterA preview of what I have in mind for cards?
K.
July 29, 2007 at 10:08 pm #153033clivejameson
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Yes Ken 😀
July 29, 2007 at 10:51 pm #153034kwatt
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I haven’t even started the art for it. 😉
I have an idea in my head for it though.
K.
August 17, 2007 at 2:01 pm #153035kwatt
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Sorry for the delay in dealing with this but I’ve been a bit busy with ISE10, website stuff and a baldy thief amongst other things. 😆
A mock up sample card is on the way to me now and I have a quote to get all this done to a professional standard from here. The mock up I will scan and post as an image when I get it, probably at the start of the week.
£2279 excl VAT to do it and, TBH, I think we should and then just let me promote the sh1t out it. 😉
I was yapping to Sean about this earlier and to play fair the idea ran thus…
First card FOC, included in the membership.
Every additional card, £10 , to cover the costs (including the hammer that the printer will take) of doing it, graphics manipulation, P&P etc., it’s cheaper than CORGI! All funds back into the TA unless you want to pay UKW something for doing it beyond the actual P&P costs, that’s up to you guys I’m not looking for it.
So sole traders basically get off Scott free in a way if you like and the multiple engineer businesses only pay for what they wish to have accordingly beyond the first card.
This was only a rough outline, if you think it should be done differently, such as all the cards should be paid for or whatever then feel free to say what you think. However, from a promotion point of view, the above would be my preferred first choice of options.
The quote above includes enough initially to produce about 250 cards all of which would be supplied with a holder (clear) and a custom printed “WTA” lanyard.
With 150 cards issued, or so, I reckon with a fag packet calculation that we should have a rough payback time of about 2 years on the cost of the printer which happens to have a 24 month warranty. So, in effect, over two years it costs the WTA nadda (£0) to do this, we only have the upfront cost and after that it’s free beyond the consumables. 🙂
K.
August 17, 2007 at 2:04 pm #153036admin
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Happy with that..
It could also be used for promotional cards if wanted also i take it.
Bryan
August 17, 2007 at 2:08 pm #153037kwatt
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Hi Bryan,
Yes, it can be used to print virtually anything onto a blank plastic card.
To add mag-stripes etc. does cost more but it possible for the likes of door access etc.
K.
August 17, 2007 at 4:21 pm #153038Martin
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kwatt wrote:£2279 excl VAT to do it and, TBH, I think we should and then just let me promote the sh1t out it. 😉
You guys crack me up you really do! Over 2 grand for plastic ID Cards? Why in hells name? Have we got money to burn here? Tell me you’re kidding?
You not are you?……OK, from the top please…what is the point?
r600a wrote:It could also be used for promotional cards if wanted also i take it.
Promotional????
Promoting what? When? How? Who?….a bit of plastic….sits in your wallet costing us all over 2 grand…..?
YEAH RIGHT….. :rolls:
August 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm #153039kwatt
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Martin wrote:You not are you?……OK, from the top please…what is the point?
If you read back you’ll get the point.
Look Martin we aren’t all sole traders, we don’t all only have a chargeable customer base, basically, we’re not all like you. Please accept that others work differently and, whilst this may not seem of any use to you, it is to many others.
I don’t see it’s a case for having a dig as you have above without any substance other than you don’t agree and never have with this.
Also, if it pays for itself you’re kinda off base with the two grand thing are you not?
K.
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