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Re: Hotpoint wma60
Hi. I hope that nobody minds me posting a bit of help here!
I am presuming this is an Ultima machine with a display and buttons with no dials.To select your average Cotton cycle you press the silver “start” button. Now the machine is on. press the top button in the programme line up. this will select a 40c cottons wash with normal dirt level, rinsing and spinspeed.
If you wish to adjust the programme for example reduce the dirt level for a lightly soiled load, press the “how dirty” button. This will change the length of the cycle accordingly.
If the “heavy” option is set. The machine automatically adds a 30*c prewash to the cycle. So you will need to add detergent to the prewash section in the drawer too.There are also three variable buttons to the left of the display. Spin, Rinse & Temperature.
The spin speed button will reduce the spin speed of any programme in 100rpm decrements.
The rinse button will either add rinses or delete rinses. the display will show which option you have selected by indicating “add rinses” or “reduced rinses”
The temperature button will reduce the wash temperature in 5*c decrements to the lowest which is 20*c.
To sum up.
Press Start. Press Cottons once – 40c. Press Start again. Away you go! At the end of the cycle, after unloading, press stop/cancel and this will turn the machine off.
The above should suit most loads fine. However remember to hit that “cottons” button twice for bedlinens, towels and tea towels which need at least 60c washes to remain sufficiently germ free!
Anymore questions regarding your machines programmes etc. I’m sure someone will be able to help you.
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
When all comes to all, the older the better in most cases.
I personally would rather go and buy a 2nd hand machine which I know is well built rather than putting my faith in some modern tat. Of course you can get quality nowadays but you MUST pay for it. It’s been said many a time before. You must pay for a quality machine that will last. Years ago the equivalent reliable hotpoint or indesit would have been around £250 – £300. However in today’s prices thats probably around the £500 isnt it?
I do prefer the older machines with their lower pitched motors, not like modern day zanussi’s which can be compared with the likes of scratching nails on a blackboard!
Must say im rather taken with the ISE 10 machine. However funds simply do not permit at the moment! And the Hotpoint is chugging along rather pleasantly. Lets hope it doesnt have to be replaced or repaired within the next few years. HAHA! 😆
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Oh yes, I have seen the old Hotpoint 1600 machine in old magazines and on the net. Looks like a very solid machine.
Jeez the designer of that would be absolutley mortified to see the current hotpoint offerings!Will keep an eye out for a WMA machine local to me.
I rather like the older WM ranges too however, they are reknowned(sp?) for their shorter wash times producing dismal results with whites regardless of detergent.
I do know that the later WM machines I.E WM54-56 First eds, WM65-67 aquarius models had increased wash times to make them A rated as apposed the the earlier models scraping a C rating.I wouldnt mind either machine really… Sometimes could do with a 2nd machine to get through the work load quicker 😆
Makes more sense to me to have two smaller capacity machines, rather than one gigantic canyon sized drum which never gets filled to capacity after sorting into coloureds, darks, black, whites and such.
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Evidently less sensitive due to its crashing around inside the cabinet! 😆
If my Hotpoint tried to spin like that it’d probably snap the struts and the drum would promptly fall to the base of the cabinet 😯
Clearly a very indestructive machine. Working through at least 3 loads a day, every day without fail!
I shall be hunting around ebay for one local to me as it seems quite a nice machine in general. I dont mind a noisy washer really whereas most would prefer the “super silent” crap.
Don’t worry about the contact lense thing! It happens to the best of us 😀
Adam I too know it is not for safety, it is to prevent excessive vibration and to stop damage to the machine itself.
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Gah! Didnt realise the bold text would come out that big lol!
Sorry about that wasnt intending on it being like that 😀
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Hotpoint WMA11 First edition its of the newer WMA range not an older WM model.
Easy mistake to be made i suppose after a long hard day 😆
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Ah well! Just another wondering of mine! 😀
The hotpoint is running as smooth as silk still. Was doing some washing at a friends house today – She has a Hotpoint WMA11 First edition. Really good machine. Cleans well and rinses 3 times as standard!Although one thing I did notice, was that it didnt appear to have any imbalace sensors. It just distributed and went hell for leather! Sounding rather a lot like an old 95 series hotpoint! Crashing around inside the cabinet and rattling rather a lot! It has recently been serviced apparently and had a new door seal fitted. First repair in about 7 years according to my friend.
Do these machines actually have imbalance protection? I thought being of the newer hotpoint design it would have been as fussy as mine!
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
LOL Kwatt!!
I have actually used napisan in the past. It claims to be germicidal at 30c. However I never felt comfortable washing sheets and towels that low.
Napisan also did a really good job on really heavily stained socks that any regular detergent struggled with alone, regardless of dosage and wash cycle.
But for most laundry inc. tea towels and the like, a normal dose of detergent, i find is sufficient generally.
I’ve also heard that dishwasher powder is good as a detergent in a maintenance wash due to its formula. You guys ever heard of this?
Dan 🙂
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Yeah. Thanks KWatt.
I did research the Hotpoint a fair bit before buying it, we were originally going to purchase a Miele machine on a credit plan, however we felt it best to keep debt free and went with a lower priced washer.
The Hotpoint does a fantastic job in every other aspect. The average cycle times are really good for a modern machine I think. 1hr 30 for non colourfast 40, and 1hr30 for the colourfast 60 programme too.
I always wash coloured bedding on a 60c cycle and lower the spin speed to around 1200 as to reduce creasing. White Bedding gets the same treatment.
I always wash towels in separate loads too. Coloured towels get a 60c wash 4 rinses and maximum spinning. White towels get 60c usually but sometimes 95c with 4 rinses and maximum spinning.
All tea towels, dish-cloths, cleaning cloths, dusters etc get washed at 95c with 4 rinses and max spinning.
I have washed whites at 40c in the past, and got good results. I usually use 50c out of routine habit I suppose. Will try and wash them at 40c more often to be a bit more eco friendly.
My Hotpoint uses 60 litres of water on a cotton cycle. Which is a fair bit for a new machine. Although half the amount of what a Hoover Logic machine used to use sometimes up to 120 litres of water a load!
My current detergent offerings for whites are Sainsburys own bio powder, not the economy one. and surf tropical powder. Both are giving pleasing results and have found rinse out much easier than P&G products.
I accept your point about it being the buyers fault for the machine not living up to said owners expectations, however in the store I did have a good read of the instruction manual and just assumed that the rinsing would not be a problem. Especially seeing as it uses 5 more litres of water than my old Hoover machine did!
Overall a pretty impressive machine for the price!Lets hope it lasts a bit!
Dan.
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
As always, the lower priced machines generally will have a shorter life span, however this is not always the case. Some lower end machines you get and do people maybe 18 months, whereas some can keep going on year after year, regardless of the amount of usage.
I mean look at my friends servis machine. It will be knocking on for 10 year old now, and all its ever had done is 3 replacement door seals due to mould damage caused by constantly washing at 40 “Bleargh” 😯
It is used on average 8-10 loads a week, and never any problems other than the door seal. Whereas some may have bough the same model usedit oly once a week and only got 18 months out of it. Some machines are just lemons, you get them in ANY brand. Whether it be Indesit, Servis or Miele!
Personally with the performance I’m getting from the Hotpoint at the moment besides the rinsing issue, I hope it does last a decent while. I’m very pleased with it.
Also to answer an earlier statement about temperature and dosage on white loads.
Most white clothes are done at 50c however some are done at 60c.
Detergent is always a plain biological, never non bio or colourcare. Generally Daz, Surf or Persil, as Ariel’s cleaning recently has decreased awfully.The dosage is followed from the packaging although sometimes just under, as sometimes the reccomended dose is a bit too much.
The rinsing is just as important for white loads in particular as it plays a significant part in cleaning, as it rinses the dirt away. *sorry I know, that you all know that!*
Adam makes some fairly valid points at times, however at times he does bring the dis-respect on himself. No Offense Adam. You’re just showing an interest in the whitegoods business. However offering advice on repairs and such when your not “in the biz” so to speak can annoy those in the know.
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
My hotpoint has 12 wash cycles plus a rinse and spin cycle, 2 seperate spin cycles and a draining cycle.
Cycle 1 – Prewash Only
Cycle 2 – White Cotton – Performs 95c wash, cooldown, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 1600
Cycle 3 – Superwash – Performs 60c wash, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 1600
Cycle 4 – Colourfast Cotton – Performs wash at 60c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 1600
Cycle 5 Fastwash – Performs wash at 60c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 1200
Cycle 6 Non Colourfast Cotton – Performs wash at 40c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 1600
Cycle 7 – Acrylics – Wash at 40c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 800.
Cycle 8 – Coolwash – Wash at 30c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin 1600
Cycle 9 – Wool – Wash at 40c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, spin, rinse 3, spin, rinse 4, final spin 800. Final spin is 1000 if wash enhance is selected on this cycle. When wash enhance is selected the wool cycle continually rotates the drum at 90rpm therefore causing less rubbing and pilling of the wool fibres.
Cycle 10 – Silks – Wash at 30c, drain, rinse 1, drain, rinse 2, drain, rinse 3, final spin 800.
Cycle 11 – Fastwash – Wash at 30c, wash spin, rinse 1, spin, rinse 2, final spin.
Cycle 12 – Handwash- Wash at 25c, drain, rinse 1, drain, rinse 2, drain rinse 3, final spin 800.
My option buttons are “wash enhance” “Reduced Creases” “Rinse Hold” “mini load” and “Time Delay”.
The reduced creases option adds a third rinse, however excludes the wash spin, and reduces spin speed between the rinses, therefore not providing any better results than the standard 2 rinses.
The machine will however automatically add a third rinse on the cottons cycle if the wash or rinse spin gets locked with suds.
Thanks KWatt I do know what I am talking about when it comes to the washing machine for the main part. I know most of its workings, and what its doing.
My man point is the main cottons cycles which I use – 2, 3 and 6. Do not allow you to add an extra rinse and keep a faster interim spin speed.
The wf860 and similar however, have the option to add an extra rinse. The bottom of the line Aquarius models too have an extra rinse option. Just my middle range ultima does not!
Dan
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Was just a general wondering thats all…
I guess I will have to stick to letting the machine performing its 2 rinses as standard, letting it get to the 1200rpm part of the final spin and then cancel the cycle and reselect the rinses and spin programme, then reselect fast spin. Which is what I have been doing for rather absorbent loads such as towelling.
Whites also require more rinsing imho as otherwise the detergent build up makes them look rather grungy!
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
The first lot of Super silent machines from Hotpoint were infact misleading as they simply stated “Super Silent”
However, after what i’m presuming are a whole host of complaints from purchasers complaining about the audible spin cycle, they changed it to “Super Silent Wash”
Therefore it is no longer a lie or is misleading anybody as it is not stating that the machines are super silent on the whole. Just in the tumbling phases.
Any engineers on here reckon that I could get a hotpoint engineer out with his laptop and techno-doodley stuff and maybe get them to programme in an extra rinse as standard?
I’m wondering if this is possible, as I know they connect their laptops to the machine to do diagnostics and fault checking and whatever else.Thanks
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Thanks for that!
I just assumed they would both be very quiet! Working in the same way.
Although I’m reasonably impressedwith the performance of my WT761.
I havea few niggles with it –
Rinsing performance is pretty poor, although they fill a fair bit up the door when rinsing, there are only 2 rinses used on the cottons and acrylics cycles and I feel that at least 3 are required for most loads. Especially towels.
The spin performace is superb however this is only after its finally decided it’s balanced enough to spin. I know all modern machines have some form ob balance protection. But this machine really takes the p*ss. I was running a load on the 30min fastwash before, however it ended up taking 60 mins due to it being fussy with balancing the load.
The final spin cycle on all cottons cycles lasts approx 20 minutes which is a horrifyingly long amount of time, however the results it produces are far superior to even my friends 1600 miele.
My hotpoint does 3 bursts at 300rpm. proceeds to do a short 600 spin. slows, goes back up for a longer 800 spin. slows. goes back up for 2 mins at 1200. Slows. Goes back up to 1400 for 2 minutes and then upto 1600 for 4 minutes. Towel loads dry in no time, the same applies to jeans loads.
Other than the fussy balancing sensor, and the poor rinsing performance, I am rather happy with the machine overall. It is now 1 year and 1 month old, and only needed one repair, whereby the pressure switch had gone faulty.
Not bad for a Hotpoint/Indesit machine IMHO.
Sorry for rambling!! 😆
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
IF a brushless motor is supposed to be super silent then why does my hotpoint brushless motor make a racket at any speed above 1200 rpm?
My friend has a miele w3922 with brushless motor and it is silent when washing and spinning. all you hear is the air whooshing around in the drum when its spinning.
My hotpoint however is rather audible at any speed above 1200rpm. I know it states “Super Silent Wash” so the spin is expected to be audible, however I thought all brushless motors although different in design and performance were designed to be super silent at domestic washing machine spin speeds?
I hope I havent confused any of you with that!
Thanks! 😀
