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electrofix wrote: the spares catalogue show all previous versions of the motr and then the word superceeded after them. all previous versions are over £400.
its does say though that only miele can fit them as there is a software change for the newer unit
you can check here
https://www.miele.co.uk/c/spare-parts-and-accessories-24.htmclick on link to spares catalogue half way down page
Dave
Hmmmm. I wonder how Miele managed to half the price of the motor unit then? I suspect I know the answer to that question.
Thanks.
electrofix wrote: just checked you have just got £212 worth of motor
Dave
And the >£160 minimum labour charge, though it was actually a 1hr 30min call, so about £200 labour and call out. To be honest, I thought the complete motor unit would have been more than £212. Without the warranty I probably would have put the money to a new machine. But 8 years would be a very poor life for a Miele machine. My last one managed about 15 years.
It’s very disappointing the warranty on a new Miele machine is now just two years.
I would add, the bio fresh compartments really do work. I found it very surprising, but they do work as described.
One more thought. If the drains from the fridge and freezer are blocked with crumbs etc…. Is it possible the condensate would collect and run down the upper copper tube? I have just realised our previous Liebherr fridge sometimes got a blocked condensation drain and I took to periodically poking it to ensure it was clear. Thanks again.
Tony R wrote:The plastic parts are noise vibration dampers, the one in your hand fits on the compressor discharge pipe the black thinner tube below the sweating pipe.
Condensation is normal on the pipe as cold refrigerant is drawn back to the compressor. A through defrost may reduce the sweating if an accumulation of ice has built up on the freezer coil and pipework, this can happen, despite being frost free, a full turn off defrost is recommended one a year for general cleaning etc, you do not have anything to worry about from what I can see.Thank you for that. Will try a full defrost then next time the unit is near empty.
All the same, I am tempted to put a plastic cable tie on the top copper tube trimmed to length with the tail of the cable tie ponting down into the plastic tray. Basically, to encourage any condensate running down the tube to preferentially drip into the tray where the warmth of the compressor will evaporate it away.
Thanks again for the encouraging advice.
I hope Miele know what they’re doing. Dropping the quality of build on appliances is the most likely way if damaging the business beyond the short term. That’s if the new cheaper line of appliances have compromised the build too far. I have been a happy Miele appliance buyer for maybe 40 years.
Interesting. Lowering build quality is a one way ticket to losing your reputation for reliability. Be interesting to hear how they have lowered the asking price.
wstc wrote:
All range cookers are made in house, only 60cm’s are out sourced.
I don’t know if it’s actually true, but an appliance service technician told me last week that there’s no Rangemaster range cookers manufactured in the UK any more.
Does anyone know if that’s true? If it is, it’s a real shame. (Yes, afraid I bought an Ilve rather than a Rangemaster).
Well, long time no visit. But I haven’t forgotten this thread. Here’s an update on what happened.
Mrs B had her kitchen replaced and the range cooker of choice in the end was an Ilve Torino 100cm dual fuel. That may or may not have been a good choice.
The cooker is now around 18 months old. Like everyone, we have a budget and the 1st choice Ilve Milano cooker, a more sophisticated cooker, was out of budget. So we bought what was then a newly introduced, less expensive range cooker, the Torino. Essentially the Torino appears to be similar to the Milano but there’s some cost savings going on. Obvious – 1 Less sophisticated oven temperature control. 2 Less sophisticated timer/programmer. 3 Less appealing control knobs. 4 Different cast iron pan supports on the hob.
Major hardware seems identical on both models. The Torino cooker as a result is considerably cheaper than the equivalent Milano model. Since we bought it, the 100cm dual fuel Torino now costs £400 more though. A considerable increase.
Since new it has been apparent that the left side, larger, oven has been overheating. Like if the oven was set to 180 degrees C it would heat to 250 and still climbing. This was confirmed on two different oven thermometers. Ilve service are OK responding but it took a couple of visits before anyone came who was interested enough to try fix it properly. The service department seems willing enough but as in all walks of life, it’s a lottery who turns up on the doorstep. Anyway, it does now seem fixed after replacing the whole oven temperature control assembly. Previous attempts at adjustment were a waste of time but that was all the previous service guys would do.
An aside, the supplied Ilve instruction manuals are dreadful. Might I say that compared to German appliances, it’s something the Italians are very poor at. It seems.
One more niggle, the oven and hob control knobs are not wearing well. Another 18 months and they’ll need replacing through surface wear. They just pull off though and if I can, I’ll likely buy the better quality knobs for the Milano cooker. If they’ll fit. But a full set could be very expensive. Cross that bridge when I come to it.
So, would I buy another Ilve range cooker? Probably, given the diminishing options that aren’t built in Asia but are still reasonably affordable. If I could, I would not buy what seems to be a budget cooker in the Ilve line up. I think I would be prepared to pay for the more sophisticated model.
Overall, at the moment, say 7 out of 10 for the Ilve Torino.
Just to add, the mQuvee I noticed does make a point of being compressor cooled rather than peltier. It’s called the mQuvee Wine Expert 24. I guess because it takes 24 bottles. It also has two temperature zones. At 45cm wide I can fit it in. I like this one. Any experience here of this brand? Nothing on the web I can find. Thanks.
That explains it then. Not keen on any appliances that are Chinese. Hence why I am asking.
Next thing I found was a 45cm mQuvee which looks decent enough. But I can find nothing about them. I guess they’re Chinese too then. I really don’t want anything wider than 45cm. Thanks.
Thanks very much for the feedback. Due to unexpected financial issues, the purchase of the range cooker has been put on hold until now. I had pretty much settled on the Rangemaster Professional 110cm in stainless steel. I think they are still UK made? I will take a look at Ilve too though now. Thanks again.
Re: Replacement tumble drier?
Thanks for the feed back guys.
Just a couple of comments to summarise.
I would have bought the basic White Knight 7kg machine. But discussing with Mrs Bloggs, we decided to go for the Indesit. In fact, if it wasn’t for the fire recall scare, we’d still have the Indesit we had before the Hotpoint rubbish. We were perfectly happy with the simple vented Indesit we had, it was a mistake getting the Hotpoint condenser. We’ll not make that mistake again.
John Lewis? Well, we have had the majority of our appliances from them for many years. But, let’s say our recent experience is nothing like as positive as it has been in the past. JL are not the lowest price for the Indesit drier, I’ll have to ask Mrs B if JL price matched or not and where she ordered it from.
Lastly, the new machine is so simple, so cheap that if it were to break if I can’t fix it myself and it’s a couple of years old, I’ll give it away and get another.
Cheers.
Bloggs.
