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Bosch/Neff/Siemens, often all the same thing with a different fascia and badge as they are all the same group. 😉
K.
Yeah Del, it has been a tactic used in the past but that was before we were all talking and so the effect of any tactics of that nature are now almost certain to be quashed.
That aside, the fact that postcodes are being reallocated for no reason other than some structure akin to the Masons is not on in my book. I mean, how would you react if some of yours were reallocated to another UKW or DASA member because a favour was asked. I doubt you’d be over the moon, especially if it was without your consent.
The fact that it’s CDSL is coincidental, the principal remains.
What Kev’s on about is that the “arsehole” passed comment and judgement on UKW and him, procceeded to tell the NESN world that he would NEVER wok for CDSL whilst in the background was trying to steal Phil K’s (or some of it at least) area for CDSL work. He then approaches someone that is on this forum an in DASA to do him a favour by trying to support this reallocation of postcodes.
Whilst the grapevine may not have worked fast enough and the knowledge not disseminated fast enough, I would have hung off a bit, as I have done on other occasions, to see what the lay of the land was before opening my gob.
The matter in hand has been dealt with but the principal remains that we have to protect each other. After all, that’s what we’re all about when you boil it down to brass tacks.
K.
Thank you Gary for that.
Whilst I may, with Dave Conway, provide admin for the site and to an extent steer the ship if you like, all the credit goes to the guys in the industry that help out people for free as best they possibly can. That thanks should be heaped on them, not me or Dave as when it comes to UKW they really are unsung heroes.
Glad you found the site of use and I hope it helped you and, again, thanks for your comments as we do appreciate it.
K.
Re: working together
Oh I won’t have any issue including them at all Del.
What pisses me off is that an agent’s area is just that, his! If he fucks it up then fair play, the gates open and the contenders compete for the work and that’s fine. What I abhor is the “golden handshake” approach to, basically, stealing the food from one poor suckers plate to feed someone else with it.
What you have to consider is this, has Phil done anything to justify losing those postal areas? The answer is, as far as we know, no. To freely volunteer to assist in taking that work away with no legitimate reason to do so is unfair IMO, but as I said, if Phil is making an arse of it then hell mend him for it, it’s his own fault if he loses the work and he knows and will probably accept that fact.
I for one don’t want any of my work getting pinched like that. And just to clarify it, I’ve had it done to me by someone we all know, so I know how fucked off Phil would be by something like that, quite rightly.
Its just the same where Kev does not cross the line with Flipper, he has the CDSL work that Flipper couldn’t do, okay that wasn’t just his call and I know that, but the fact is he couldn’t do it so Kev does. By the same token Kev, the same guy that set up the MFI network, does practically fuck all work for them because he gave up a load of postcodes to Phil and, I think, some to Jason as well. In addition he also helped Jason out the shit with CDSL.
So, whilst I may not always see eye-to-eye with Kevin on everything I really don’t think anyone here has any reason to say boo about it to him in all honesty. All Kevin is trying to do is protect Phil, the fact that the twat insulted him is secondary, but annoying given the givens.
In all honesty I also was going to give postcodes in the MFI thing to some who fucked me off, that was knocked back by MFI not by me.
Pissing in each other’s pools does no good at all and we have to sort it out on a sensible basis and protect one another cause if we don’t and, we don’t take the high ground morally, none of the bastards that want to stuff us will. Kevin and I are only too well aware of this simple fact as well as the fact that there is enough work to go around, with a lot ore on the cards as well, so there’s bugger all point in shit like this as it is merely a diversion.
If said person/s wants to have pop at me, Kev or UKW then fine, do so. We’re only too well able to answer the critisisms, but when it’s not done to your face then there’s little to be done other than what has been done to put it right. Oh and, there’s more to that story than you probably know about in terms of the important part of what was said, what was said about Kev wasn’t that important really as that shit just bounces off Kev, I mean look at the way I talk to the old fucker! 😆
K.
Re: working together
Sean, one sentence for you….
“I don’t trust you”
That should bring memories of a pretty revealing conversation to mind and why, in the end, I shut up. I tried, you tried, they didn’t. When someone is as intent on not listening as that then really, there’s no point in trying too hard.
It’s small minded, self-centered, pettiness like that that has our trade fucked and in the position it is now and why the silly twat has feck all work as he chose the wrong horse to back, it’s that simple. But now he/they are bitter about the results of that and are looking for a scapegoat, UKW & Kev fitted the bill quite nicely thanks.
However, Kevin like I, did not cause any upset this weekend for the sake of DASA, the last thing needed was a scene, especially in light of what may have gone off and the people that were there. It would have been unfair and potentially damaging to have done so. So Kevin laid off his critics and NESN and I just laid of NESN despite my better judgement.
But, for DASA, the weekend went off without a hitch.
K.
We like to entertain on occasion, like dancing seals only more intelligent, if only just! 😀
TWR is pretty lively at times and a lot of real and highly sensitive information is in here so we are more informed as well as knowing how to deal with certain situations. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t but at least we try.
Anyway, the people in here are all trusted John and that’s why it is here, so we can talk freely without the usual burdens in the main forums, plus we need to talk about some stuff privately anyway. I’m sure you’ll see that from many of the posts in here as some of the info ain’t even out there yet.
K.
Yeah an easy one that is and it’s an ADP3101. 😉
Dave will sort that in the morning easily for you and, from memory, the element is about £26-27 plus VAT and postage.
K.
Re: Meetings & Contract Rates
My minimum standard call rate is ~£35 and, quite openly, I will tell you that is for AIS simply due to a long standing relationship with them although some of the demands on reporting are not supported by that rate by a long way.
Two years ago my minimum for taking on anything new was set to £35, now it’s £40 and, you know what? You can get it if you ask, but if you just accept what’s offered then hell mend you really.
Roy Fisher from CDSL summed it up quite well really, as an engineering service we’re quite unique in many ways, we deliver service IN HOME we go to the customer and we do it for less than many similar services that do not do so. Look at browngoods, unless it’s a big item you have to take it to the repairer and even then I recently had to help a friend to get 42″ CRT TV into the back of his car to get it fixed, in a workshop! We have to take all our vehicles to a workshop and then we pay more for the pivilege of doing that. In many ways, we’re off our rockers doing it for the low prices that we do.
What we have to remember is that we are doing these people a favour by providing a valuable and unique service, not the other way around.
K.
Was this not posted to another thread as well?
Someone will answer this, but many of the Service Force people et all were at the DASA AGM yesterday and probably not back to their PC’s yet. As a general rule all posts here get answered by some kind soul, but not instantly sometimes. 😉
K.
