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Re: Beko – GB DAR – Servis
bonzaco wrote:I have just been advised from a very reliable source within, that Servis are not replacing engineers on departure or retirement. Taken with the earlier threads, that might lead you to draw conclusions less than Christian. I wonder what KM’s retirement plan is like?
😳 I forgot my acidic remark about this!
Bonzaco, you’ll probably find that they’ve just worked out that it’s cheaper to use idiots like us that will work, effectively, for free! 😕
I could have a rant on that point, but I’ll leave it be for now.
K.
BFGT, I don’t mind you advertising your services here once at all, but you cannot alter the size or colour of the header, it’s locked to be the same as all the rest. You will not be able to make it stand out.
Well it would appear that a good time was had by all, excellent, we aim to please.
It’s always a good laugh and a pleasure to yap till the wee small hours with any of you about more than just the biz. We enjoy a good yap and some “interesting” conversation about life, loves, too many phone calls and sex toys as much as anyone. 😆
For anyone thinking of joining us of an evening please remember this, we will take the p!ss out anyone, there’s no favouritism here! 😉 Just remember that it is all in good fun, no offence is intended…honest! 😀
Pity I’m usually the first target, or Ted but it’s all in good spirit and is taken that way, just as the spirits are taken at the same time. 😕
K.
I meant to say that after my posts of the last two days or so that I can almost hear that “ker-ching” of solicitiors cash registers on Monday morning as they all scamper off to see what legal steps they can take to shut me up. Good luck with that endeavour I say, free speech is a pre-requisite of a democractic society!
I look forward to making very public any actions that are taken against myself, the site or any member of this website and exposing any actions taken. But I’d be far more weloming of some dialogue and sensible remidies as opposed to draconian measures to silence anyone on this site that happens to have a personal opinion to air in front of an audience of their peers and collegues within the industry.
All I would do is point out the rules of this forum and, indeed, the terms and conditions of use for the site in general.
I’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain, like many others here, have a nice day! 😀
K.
Re: Electrue/NESN
Alex wrote:I have to say I’ve read the above and I think some of the shenanigans that are taking place are outrageous. How can a work provider do this and think they are getting away with it. If it wasn’t for this site, there would be a lot of blood on the carpet.
Alex,
You’ve been around the block with all this kind of nonsense over the years just as much as I have and you will, just as I am, be fully aware that this sort of thing has gone on for years. In my personal opinion it’s gone on for far too long, for too long the WP’s in particular have taken advantage of our fears of not having enough work and so on. We’ve seen it all before, Power Network, British Gas, Repair & Care, Mastercare, Philco, Candy, Zanussi… the list is endless of those that have played out corporate games with little, but mostly, absolutely no regard for us at all and contibuted very nicely to the demise of this industry putting it in the state it’s in now.
So this scenario we have now with the WPs is nothing new.
What is new is that we are all now communitating very well and starting to come together as an industry, that’s what’s changed and I’d bet that you squirming in your seat is just exactly what some of these people are doing. They will no longer be able to extract the proveribial in the nefarious ways that they have done so in the past and I think it’s brilliant!
I, like most people using this site and many outwith it, are more than open to listen to sensible remidies and offers of work, but that I’m afraid, is something that is entirely out of my hands.
K.
Re: Electrue/NESN
Dave_Conway wrote:Jonathan, you are hereby invited to partake in negotiations, the like of which will change the face of the whole service industry.
The offer of negotiation was never closed at any time to anyone or by anyone I know of that uses this website.
All I need do is to point out how the agents have been coerced and beaten into a corner by politics and, essentially, that’s what it is, just politics. That was not a situation created by we lowly service agents, just one we got snarled up in. 🙄
But then when you have behaviour like banning members from holding a meeting to attempt to find a resolution as happened this week there’s gonna be a backlash as that’s just out of order.
K.
Re: Chitter Chatter
Flipper wrote:My “scotch” evaperated as well!
See he’s just doing that to annoy me again, I still think he’s a septic. 😉
Same time next week then?
K.
Ah right Rudi I missed this the other day with all that’s been happening in that thread of late but it makes perfect sense when you join the dots doesn’t it?
WP reputedly in trouble trying to save money so uses this as a way of stalling off the inevitable and clawing some money back in from it’s own agents.
Ho hum. 😕
K.
(Personal opinion as ever, usual rider applies)
Re: Can anyone confirm…
Alex wrote:Beat me across the head if this is a silly idea.
Nope not really a silly idea at all, but can we beat you anyway? 😆
Alex wrote:Is it possible or feasible to get the media involved in any way? It would make a bloody good story for BBC2’s blood on the floor series or perhaps some hack who wants to make a name for himslef. If so, it ought to a case of someone who knows someone if you see what I mean.
Yes it would indeed make a story in fact I was just commenting today that you couldn’t write a story this full of double dealing and intrigue if you tried! The problem is getting anyone interested in it.
Alex wrote:If there is a risk of subjudicy regards anything pending, then maybe not.
Well, there could be, I’ve got more ammunition I’m just waiting on events to catch up so I can light the taper.
Alex wrote:As I said shoot me down in flames if I’m talking bollocks.
I’m bloody glad I turned NESN away at £42
Not at all.
I bet you’re glad and I’d wager others wish that they had!
K.
Re: Electrue/NESN
Well folks the hits just keep on coming…
I knew of this a while ago, or at least that it was a possibility but I (and other people also with the information) could not say anything as it could have risked the source of the information and that could have lost them their job. I like to think we have the moral high ground and I will not break a confidence (as many of you well know) so I waited until it was safe to post about this and now it is, since it’s in the open now.
This could get quite technical in parts, so please bear with me on this and, yet again, this is purely a personal opinion and comment based on the information that I have.
I have had three NESN members on the phone between yesterday and today complaining about money being taken off them by NESN for “site inspections” carried out for work carried out at some time in the past. For each site inspection they have been charged £40! As I’m sure you can appreciate this adds up to some considerable amounts in some cases, figures of many thousands of pounds have been banded about already. In each case there is no option in it, the member has been charged with the decision already taken to charge them irrespective. Some have already had funds removed from their payments without any consent or notice to the member.
Of course no agent knows who carried out these inspections or why yet they are being charged for them. Is this a scam by NESN to claw back money or is it genuine, who knows?
This is not exactly the cuddly, caring NESN currently being portrayed by its directors and assorted lapdogs is it?
Okay, so here’s my take on it. NESN took on the contract under which this work was carried out, NESN passed the calls to the agent therefore NESN have ultimate responsibility to ensure that you get paid for the work that you carried out at the agreed rates. It’s that simple.
Now, retrospectively, they come back and charge you for additional works that you had no knowledge of, did not consent to and have had no chance to dispute. Nice eh?
NESN should know, like any WP, that they have to carry indemnity insurance for the likes of this instance but obviously they do not have this insurance in place for this contract and it come a cropper. So instead of declaring themselves bankrupt they’ve made all the members carry the can for their own mismanagement which, to my mind, is just morally repugnant. Additionally it may well be illegal! I would suggest anyone affected by this seeks legal advice at the earliest opportunity to find out exactly what the position of this is in law as I have a feeling that they could be on a loser here.
Now, this type of indemnity insurance is what you need to cover a clause in the Electrue contract to my knowledge and no, your current policy does not give you that much cover and you will need additional insurances from what I’m told. These insurances do not come cheap! NESN had to take on that type of indemnity insurance to take on the Electrue/DSG work and that was one of the reasons cited for the high management fee on that contract.
Bearing in mind this fiasco with the current events with Electrue, NESN could be on a very shaky wicket indeed financially and I have also heard tell that they have had to prop up some of their “partner companies” (yes, the ones that don’t exist) to the tune of tens of thousands of pounds lately. Laying off staff, the moving of administration to a director’s offices (which is no doubt costing as well). This is not painting a pretty picture!
Oh and, now we have the rumour (and it is only that) that the call centre may well be moved to the aforementioned director’s premises as well in a bid to save money.
Add all this up and what do we have… a recipe for imminent disaster, that’s what!
What options do you have as a member, only one, resignation!
K.
