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Re: Can anyone confirm…
And to that end…
I’ve had it with them, all of them! The gloves are well and truly off now.
If NESN & Electrue want to slug it out then fine, let them, but there’s feck all reason to involve us in that battle and the last thing I want to see is my friends being abused by these animals.
We have Ted getting court action threatened, which we know about in here only as yet. Flipper and JP both being threatened and having sleepless nights over it all. Myself gettting terminated. Dave not getting any responses on the shares issue.
I mean FFS how much does it take before you have a real pop at them, so with that all in mind I struck back in the early hours of the morning and probably went straight to the top of NESN’s hit list. Fuck ’em, like I care!
I will not tolerate myself, my collegues and people I consider to be friends treated in that manner, end of story.
And I’m not finished with them yet, far from it, it’s just a question of timing, nothing more. As soon as the Ted/court thing gets okay’d for public release they better be prepared for yet another verbal assault as the bones of it is in my head already and it will be yet another stormer.
I’ve invited them to answer the questions publically as you can see, in fact I’ve taunted them to do so, let’s see what they do. I hope they do it, I really do cause they’ll open the door for me to tear them apart.
K.
It’s on my order tray now for you Chris I’ll process it at some point this week no doubt as it’s the only thing there for now. If it’s desperate let me know and I’ll do it on Monday when the Frogs wake up! 😉
K.
Re: Electrue/NESN
Kindly emailed to me from the NESN forums tonight was a post by a Mr Ince, a director (as far as I know) of NESN and I know he access to this forum.
This post is entirely personal comment an opinion.
Mr Ince before you go crowing about confidentiality etc you should bear in mind that your MD of NESN terminated my company’s contract with NESN with immediate effect over one line in a private email that he did not have permission to have. So to hear you harping on about how anyone should not be able to get information from the NESN member’s website is you having a laugh surely given that history isn’t it? Then, on top of that, NESN gain access in here by using someone else’s login under false pretences, hardly sporting, ethical or even honest behaviour is it?
So you have no room to talk about confidentiality in my honest opinion and you are the last company in the industry that should even start with that tact if you ask me given the behaviour of NESN to date.
What’s good for the goose…
I am simply astounded by the hypocrisy of these remarks!
So we have a history of NESN spying on other people’s affairs, is it any wonder you get the same treatment from others and can you blame them? This in addition to telling people what they can and cannot do in the way of work and what contracts they can and cannot enter into, which is disgusting. You are effectively controlling other people’s businesses, it’s that simple!
As for your contention that “the majority of us” are working to make the industry better, is that for the trade or the directors of NESN? Somehow I suspect your motives are more aimed at self-preservation than the good of your members. This is borne out by the fact that I have been informed that NESN has been threatening its members on the quiet to keep them in line, so that a tad hypocritical don’t you think?
You then go on to accuse these people of being small minded and hypocritical, is this just because they don’t share your views of NESN or because they don’t want to “toe the line” according to NESN? That line of thought is pretty pathetic in my opinion.
You (NESN) will be the saviour of the industry; no I don’t think so somehow, your own skins maybe, but not the industry. And, even if you did save your members that’s only what 60 members or thereabouts, I would contest that that figure constitutes the entire trade as you seem to purport, as I am quite sure others would too. As to your contention that a handful feel differently, simply look at the membership and page view figures for this site. That hardly constitutes a handful of unhappy people in the industry. Given our hits have jumped by over 30{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} since this whole debacle under discussion started, speaks volumes if you ask me.
I would propose that you ditch the narrow minded propaganda posts to try boosting morale in a network that is slowly imploding and get on with running your business as best you can. Please stop meddling with affairs you obviously either don’t grasp or have an ulterior motive for persecuting the members with.
As to your obvious and clumsy slants toward Electrue and in particular Mr Fisher and the inferences made, do you not think the current situation between NESN and Electrue is inflamed enough without you fanning those flames? Are people throughout the trade not worried enough already? It seems from your posts that you are indeed trying to provoke further action through a personal attack, which in my view, is unacceptable behaviour for someone in your position.
If you want to come back at me please feel free to do so, I’m more than happy to slug this out with you as I’m done with hiding from people like you and NESN, if you want to take me on then you do so in public, right here. I will not take a phone call from you, you want to have a go at me, you do it in public or I will make it public regardless of what steps you take.
Now, do you want to make this a public battle because I believe the trade as a whole has a right to see the damage you and, those with similar opinions, could potentially reek on people’s livelihoods with this childish carry on? I should suggest that you all grow up and resolve the problems then come back to the trade as a whole talking some sense instead of this flight of fancy and leave us all out of your own internal problems and little corporate power struggles or games.
K.
Re: GB DAR
Replying to my own post I know, but it’s a continuation and explanation of the above really because it gets worse! 😯
I, late today, had a conversation with someone within a large UK repairer who has to remain anonymous I’m afraid, but I can say that the source is geniune and it is a major repairer that we’re talking about here.
Anyway enough of that…
The chap couldn’t absolutely identify the comapny involved but the name that rung a bell was Border Domestics, dunno if they have access to this forum or not, but it was the company covering the Borders of Scotland for them and I think he said DG postcodes.
Background over, kicker coming…
Well we’ve all moaned like hell, myself included, about pre-booked calls not being paid for, basically if you get a no-access with a GBDAR/Servis pre-booked call tough really. Well they’re being paid the abortive fee for every single no-access! Nice one eh?
Comments please as there are a few GBDAR agents here?
So here’s my attitude to it, if GBDAR/Servis can afford to pay it where they’re hard up or can’t get cover in one area, they can afford to pay it everywhere and I will not have the p!!s taken out of me or anyone else any longer, I’ve had it! 👿
Now I sincerely hope that other WP’s read this, because GBDAR/Servis aren’t the only ones that play this game and, as my old Gran used to remind me very often (usually with a slipper), be sure your sins will always find you out!
Work with us and play fair or don’t the choice is yours.
K.
Re: CORGI Training for engineers…maybe not!
Dave_Conway wrote:The fossil fuel fiasco is the way they are pushing people who have no previous gas experience. Fossils at the Corgi healm if you ask me.
Or some very shrewd cookies in some people’s opinion.
Irrespective, the point is that CORGI costs more than we can stand if they insist on taking all these other courses in addition to those that we have to undertake already. I mean, I looked at the gas T/D course and the local college wanted £200-250 IIRC to do that, how can they justify that on top of the cookers? Likewise with LPG and the volume of calls on these products is so low it just makes financially unviable IMO to cover them.
K.
Re: CORGI Training for engineers…maybe not!
Lawrence wrote:I am seriously Jarred of with this whole issue
Which one? 😉
K.
Re: GB DAR
Well, I had to do it….
Additionally please do not request that we call mobile numbers before calling as we will not do so, sorry but we don’t get paid enough to justify that level of service for the fees on Servis appliances.
Sorry but for £30 a call they’re not on with this crap, pay me a decent rate and I’ll consider it I might even care about the work. This on top of the half fees and silly spares delays and the same chase for the same customer for the 8th time today was the final straw.
Either sack me as an agent of get it sorted because I don’t need this hassle! We’ve gone on about this for ages and GB/Servis have done sod all about it.
K.
Re: Electrue/NESN
Rudolph_Hucker wrote:We need to get the message across, or the trade as a whole will die on the vine. It is our industry, without us these clowns will never make it. Please don’t let it happen.
That’s the reason we’re all here and thanks for the support guys I thought I may have offended someone, I was just a bit incensed at that document, well more than a bit actually. I hope no-one took offence, if I caused any to anyone I apologise that wasn’t the intent at all of it merely to stress the points made in the strongest possible terms.
And you’re right, unless we do something, even if that means doing something by doing nothing then we may well all be doomed.
Hands up those that can afford a salary that reciprocates the work and hours they put into their business? Hands up those that can compete with the salaries that the big boys like British Gas are paying?
No takers? 😉
Well you can bet you’re backside that the “management teams” don’t work for the money we get paid and we’re the ones doing the graft and that can’t sleep at night for worries about paying bills and the wages dependent on whether they decide to pay us or not.
Sad isn’t it? Then they screw you over some more with silly restrictive contracts. 😕
K.
Re: Most ridiculous part price
Two from Whirlpool sent to me:
481236018475 – Ball – This is what looks to be an Eco-Ball for the sump of a washer, roughly 1 1/2″ spherical plastic ball…
£66.49
481249298019 – Spring – Just a small spring for behind a knob or suchlike, 2″ by about 1/2″…
£54.20
Whirlpool you should be utterly ashamed, those are crazy prices and yes, we did verify them!
K.
Yeah, I was maybe a bit strong on that one but I was trying to stress my level of utter disgust at this contract document I was sent. It’s appalling to think that such a crime would be perpetrated on the trade and, in my eyes, it is almost a crime that this sort of thing is allowed to go on.
My advice is simple, avoid it like it was the plague I would never sign this document, I may as well hand control of my business to CDSL/DSG. They could at least have the decency to pay me to buy me out!
Many of you have been burned in the past with contracts and recently a few of you have found out how important this is with NESN slapping you about with their contract, don’t let yourselves be sandbagged again!
K.
