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September 8, 2004 at 11:36 pm in reply to: Ariston AWD12S (again!!!) – reluctance to repair. #116404
Penguin45
ParticipantHi rc11co,
You said that there was a connector off the board? If this is a heavy two wireplug, it is the heater supply. If you have run a zero temperature wash, the heater is not required, therefore no fault will be detected.If the two wire lead is a lightweight on it may be the thermistor (temperature control) feed, although this should (theoretically) give a different fault code!
You said that the last wash was a boil wash, this requires extended use of the heater, any heat distortion or burning can be linked to a poor connection or dry joint.
If you are VERY lucky you may be able to repair this kind of surface damage, otherwise you ARE looking at a replacement board.
The heater should read 20-30 ohms by the way, with absolutely minimal earth leakage.
I repeat though, you should shout the house down to Merloni about this, they have had three goes at this and failed, and you appear to have been misled as well as to what has actually been done.
It’s worth bearing in mind that Merloni people read these forums, so when you phone you may even be offered some service!
Best regards,
Penguin45.Penguin45
ParticipantSounds like photos and Trading Standards time to me……… You have been misled!
Regards,
Penguin45Penguin45
ParticipantYou could wean him off the cleaner – IME they’re not that effective and damned expensive to boot. Shooting in neat lemon juice when the flap goes “Thunk!” cost a fraction and works just as well!
Chris
Penguin45
ParticipantIsn’t 8 flashes heater not coming on? Can be dry joints at relay on digiboard.
Unplug it first……..
Regards,
Penguin45.Penguin45
ParticipantOh no there isn’t! Atlant have gone out of business in the UK according to the nice chap at Joe Green’s. So, new oven time….
Thanks everybody,
Chris.Penguin45
ParticipantNice one Tony. Have spoken to them and they seem pretty helpful.
Maybe there is a Dog.
Regards,
Chris the Penguin.Penguin45
ParticipantNothing copper going in is there Martin? That can produce some interesting results.
Chris.Penguin45
ParticipantOh Gawd…..
It’s going to be one of those isn’t it?
Thanks for trying.
Chris.Penguin45
ParticipantHoppy Burpday K,
Chris.Penguin45
ParticipantBut Mark – you can STILL get the 3 books………
you’ll probably sink under the weight!Penguin.
Penguin45
ParticipantRe: Atlant
OK, here we go.
It’s an AC10WEF, s/no 9805.I need a grill element and the three control knobs (white).
Thanks,
Chris the Penguin.Penguin45
ParticipantNot yet Dave – going today – will advise.
Chris.Penguin45
ParticipantDue to the extremely low levels of water being circulated in modern dishwashers, tablets become harder and harder to dissolve, ESPECIALLY multi layer, multi function jobs.
Fill up the rinse aid compartment and get some single function powder and things will improve.
I betcha.
Regards,
Penguin45.Penguin45
ParticipantTricky one this – Kevin’s post is a general broadcast to the trade, but his point is (I would suggest) aimed at our members working for Work Providers by and large. I haven’t responded so far as I don’t do this kind of work, being independent and specialising in property maintenance work – students – I love them.
As things stand up here in Leeds, I’m working for £35 an hour plus bits, with a lot of “pre-priced” jobs (more profitable – don’t tell anyone). To be honest, I’m a bit expensive, but, for my market, my customers know that I’ll get in and do the job quickly – which is what they want.
I’m planning to bump the rate to £40 in the new year, which will bring the usual screams of outrage from a few, who’ll return in a couple of months when other peoples service lets them down or they figure that they’re getting ripped off.
Maybe this doesn’t directly help the thread along, BUT I do this based on a 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}+ 1st hit rate, which IS profitable – lots of completions every day.
The mercenary bit is that none of this work is U/G. So, by the time it’s coming along, I’ve picked up the top 10 parts for the common machines and they’re in the van and waiting.
Now, where this can be relevant in general is that all manufacturers know perfectly well what their top (say) 100 fastest moving parts are and SHOULD be ensuring that their engineers (or agents) are carrying them. It was certainly the way we used to work at Comet (I said USED to) and Creda used a similar arrangement.
If I can figure out the basics of this as an (now) independant, there is no excuse for the WPs not to be able to do the same thing!
Years ago I had to go to a Creda toploader (Domar IIRC) and a small cardboard box appeared with 12 parts in it. Sure enough, the lock and knob cam were what were required, job done, box sent back with usage sheet. The point is that some one was analysing usage and identifying failure and preparing for it. This no longer appears to be the case and everyone is second guessing or accepting that first call is an investigation and hoping it’s a blockage!
Anyway, I survive these days on a good 1st hit. How you’re supposed to manage on an investigate/order/return basis is beyond me. Obviously a higher rate will compensate, but better availibility would be so much better!
Kevin’s put a lot of thought and effort into this and deserves a response. These are my thouhgts, let’s have yours!
Chris the Penguin.
Penguin45
ParticipantPhil,
You’re making a sprat of yourself……..
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