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Re: In search of the fourth cord
r600a wrote:Hi
I did ask concerning the rate for the training and they was offering £10 per student on a self employed basis
Surely you mean £10 per student, per day and not per week? As their classes are maxed at 8? That would mean £80 Per week for a Whitegoods Trainer if by the week as opposed to a more realistic £400 PW if by the day?
Ade 🙂
Re: 0800 Repair
IMO, DASA are looking very guilty of looking after the interests of the top council members and the bank balance of DASA over their members. Rightly or wrongly, I make no apologies for thinking like this after the past few weeks.
The stance taken in their posts a few pages back, simply say to me in ‘Laymans’ Terms, bugger that lot at UKW. I can see Alex clearly stating that a response of some sort might benefit DASA, so I / We can’t be alone thinking that!
This is the BIGGEST meeting place for domestic appliance repairers in the UK. To allow this thread to continue, without intervention given the fact that not only DASA Members read this, non DASA (Possible future members) read this also. Their stance regarding ‘If they aint a member, sod them’ (Again, layman’s terms) is 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} Pure unadulterated disrespect to us all.
You can see from their conversation, one of their council members doesn’t have a clue what’s going on! That’s why he started it?! So that in itself says to me that any deal between DASA & 0800Repair was agreed with not all council members input and / or opinions on the harm it could do to their members.
How can a TA take an agreed amount of pounds sterling per 0800Repair Franchisee for a ‘No questions asked’ membership and the TA DOES NOT Independently vet them when Engineer ‘X’ (As in you, an indie) has to jump through hoops for membership! :rolls: Whoops… That’s another recent ‘revelation’ DASA!
DASA need to front this, like ASAP IMO. They need to answer to us, their trade members. They are a TA that would take my money, so they’re wrong in saying because I’m not a DASA Member, I’m to be ignored. DASA do in fact have a responsibility to their members, but IMO, they also have a responsibility to their trade!!!! So if questioned by a non member, to turn your head, is simply a joke.
Or is the above just an arrogance shown by DASA?
Ade
Re: Tattoos
I want one that says ‘Made in Wales’ (Across the back left shoulder to right) with the WRU Feathers underneath (Central).
Ade 🙂
Re: google maps
DrDill wrote:Unbelievable, some one wants to do something for others and you get someone else who can only think of posting a negative.
I thought the EXACT same thing :rolls:
DrDill wrote:Fantastic offer for everybody from funkyboogy.
Here here! Gimme a shout anytime Ally if you need a hand 🙂
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
I’ve just re read your post Martin. You are almost at the end of your time, and these issues might not affect you in the long run, hence your view, but there are plenty of people like me, that have 10, 20 or 30+ Years left in this game that want to make it better.
Martin wrote:It is clear to even the most casual observer that your role has now come down to a greater degree as nothing less than leading a ‘kangaroo court session’ here on UKW.
You are joking…? So this is a Trade Forum, and I’m a Trade Member. If I air a view that YOU agree with Martin, that’s ok yeah? But if you (Or your pal Mr Pannell) disagrees with it, I’m simply leading a kangaroo court session…?
As Oldtog would say… GET A LIFE!
Martin wrote:I think that all parties in this, including yourself, deserve respect and I would hope that at this stage in the process at least, you of all people would show a little more restraint.
You mean by not swearing…? Or not reproducing what was aired in the DASA Forum? If you are referring to the swearing, then sorry, but for the fu**ing life of me will I not shut the f**k up when I’m looking at bullsh*t advertising by a company that competes with every f**king Indie in the UK. That is a f**king fact.
If it’s the latter… Sorry dude but, you can’t have a go at me for posting it… They wrote it…!
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
Martin wrote:I have to say Ade that I think your reaction and the language you use is inappropriate in the extreme.
I apologise for my ‘Use’ of words, but I have been told here to ‘GET A LIFE’ etc and I volunteered to drive 3 hours across the UK for a chair at the DASA Meeting so I could ask my questions. After being declined that opportunity it annoyed me and I decided to pursue this issue.
After the revelations above, I’m nothing but happy for sustaining my stance.
Regarding the WTA, stop bringing it up as like you have said, I’m speaking solo here, so why continue to try and bring the WTA and DASA to arguing point? As far as I’m aware, the WTA and DASA are prepared to work together in instances that will achieve the same goal. That does NOT make the WTA and DASA ‘Rival’ TA’s.
I’m sick of the WTA being brought up in this thread. FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL… THE WTA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. END OF…!
If there is any member or non member of the WTA that would like to air their worries about ME personally pursuing something that affects every indie out there, please contact the WTA Chairman and state your concerns. If then I’m approached and challenged by the WTA for airing my right to freedom of speech, I’ll deal with it at that point.
Facts are Martin, and like them or lump them, 0800Repair are misleading consumers in the way they advertise. DASA are endorsing them. DASA and 0800Repair have apparently agreed to change the advertising by the end of September 2011 as per the minutes from the DASA Meeting. End of in that respect as far as I’m concerned.
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
I aint being funny like, but there is some disregard for any NON DASA Member in the sh1te above.
Now I’ve read it 3 or 4 times, I am shocked at DASA’s kinda ‘Just sit back and shut it’ approach.
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
I’ve just received an email from someone at yahoo.co.uk. It’s obviously a bogus address due to the content of the email, but as requested, I reproduce it below:
0800 Repairs
by Dave Pannell
Page 1 of 2 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:17 pmDave Pannell wrote:What is now the position between DASA and 0800, regarding statements on the UKW site, as DASA has been called into question concerning this, also what is the position of 0800 franchisee repairers.
Re: 0800 Repairs
by Steve Debeger Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:08 pmSteve Debeger wrote:Dave
The matter was discussed at the Council meeting which unfortunately you were unable to attend. A resolution, supported by the officers and Council members present, has been put to Paul Greenberg, representing 0800, to which he has accepted and implemented. The detail will be included in the Council meeting minutes which will be posted when complete, which should be by tomorrow.
Members can then comment on the content should they wish to do so. However I would hope that any debate will be conducted in a professional manner and not in the way it has been in other media. We represent the industry in an all inclusive manner and need to demonstrate to the many organisations with whom we are building positive relationships, including those from whom our members receive work, that we can consider an issue from several perspectives. My only consideration is to DASA and the membership and that any member using our web site to interface with the consumer does so fairly and on the same level as any other member.
Regarding comments on UKW we have never, and will not, respond to uninformed comments made through other channels, particularly if the comments derive from non DASA members to whom we have no obligations. We are a responsible organisation and if a member does wish to debate a particular issue they can do so on the DASA web site, providing that they observe the standard rules of respect and courtesey, and put forward thought out arguements that address the point from all angles. DASA cannot take sides and cannot apply unfair and unreasonable exclusions.
I would welcome a reasoned debate on this issue if indeed the membership wish to discuss the matter further
Regards
Steve Debeger?Re: 0800 Repairs
by Dave Pannell Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:48 pmDave Pannell wrote:SO, was Paul at the meeting? I thought he went home on the Wednesday, if so, how was the matter put to Paul without him being there, this being the case how could Paul and council debate this in his absence.
You are aware of the reasons I could not attend two meetings one directly after the other. As a one man business I simply cannot afford to take two consecutive days off in a week, especialy in these financial times, I have to take work where I can, so subsequently I had to choose, I chose the one I considered to be not only beneficial to me, but, to show a solidarity on council as requested.
Personally, I think the 0800 situation has got out of hand, whatever is said, is cut and twisted to suite, I have asked the recipient of your email to produce the email in full, not once but twice, as far as I am aware he has not complied as of late yesterday. I have now clicked the part that asks if you want to be removed from that particular section to have reminders of updates, this is because the ever decreasing debacle I see there.
DASA is being drawn into a situation that is not DASA’s making, I am left wondering what is the real interest is in the 0800/DASA relations, it surely cannot have any impact on a certain mans business, he has gone into depth for reasons I cannot comprehend in a matter that does not concern him at all.
I am hoping those members who have contacted the DASA office concerning this issue, will voice there concerns here, and be clear and succinct about about it, for DASA is not a children’s play area where slanging matches are made and banded about, unlike elsewhere.
I really hope when I see the minutes, they can satisfy me. I also hope there are no acronyms (i.e.; initials of whom spoke) in the minutes as this destroys the flow of reading, I have requested this before.Re: 0800 Repairs by Steve Debeger Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:26 pm
Steve Debeger wrote:Dave
I know you may have the Associations concerns at heart but please do not get drawn into the UKW discussions which appear to be fruitless and directed by several individual agendas. Should we need to debate the issue, lets do it on our web site, professionally and respectfully between the members.
Paul did attend the meeting, and as a councillor, I would expect him to. There is no provision in the constitution to exclude any council member and until that changes we will continue as we always have. Furthermore Council meetings are open to all members and associates so I am not sure of your point here. The fact that a person or organisation is present or not should not be any reason why an issue cannot be debated openly and honestly and that is what happened.
Although I would prefer you keep to one thread in your postings, re the minutes format. ?I must respectfully point out that I did previously respond to your point and that my concern is directed more to the persons who has to record and write the minutes than to those who have to read them, the latter being a lot less time consuming. Please take this into account when you are criticising processes that are trying to safe time for the officers who are, as you often refer to yourself, volunteers and like you have businesses to run. Perhaps a little more thought and consideration in your postings toward your colleagues may provide them with a little encouragement.Re: 0800 Repairs
by Alex Reed Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:48 pmAlex wrote:Someone from within the list of contributors to the Diatribe on UKW on this keeps trying go get me to respond on behalf of DASA. (As a councillor) I am not prepared to do that as it is not my remit to do so, and I do not want to enter into the debate any further than what is strictly necessary. I saw the bit Dave Pannel referred to regards the main protagonist and I feel that such details are between the 2 parties as on the correspondence trail, and am relieved the UKW member concerned has not printed as such.
I take it the minutes are not available for general perusal, because the answer as given is more than adequate. If Adrian Whelke on UKW has that information or a similar statement perhaps the subject will whither on the vine.
I will leave that for people in a better position than I to make that decision. AlexRe: 0800 Repairs
by Dave Pannell Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:31 pmDave Pannell wrote:I understand I have an apology to make, Paul Greensburg did indeed return for the meeting, I sincerely appologise for I had assumed he was not going to return, and I am glad he was able to respond accordingly, though to this moment I have not had minutes, however, in the fullness of time, they will appear.
My apologies once more.Re: 0800 Repairs
Dave Pannell wrote:by Dave Pannell Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:41 pm
I have just been to the index and found the minutes there, I have briefly read through, I am satisfied by what I have read, however one small note, I made my apologies for not attending this meeting and I see they have not been recorded, I assume this is an oversight, and will be rectified as soon as, thank you.
It looked like an interesting meeting, and a tricky situation seems to have been nipped in the bud.?Re: 0800 Repairs
by Jason Huby Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:05 pmJason Huby wrote:For everyones info…
I had a concerned member, on the phone for over an hour, who was going to resign from Dasa over this as he had read what was on UKW. He was also informed that Adrian Whelkes was a DASA member and was refused permission to attend a Council meeting. Whilst I agree this is all here say and being voiced by other bodies it does reflect on the perception of DASA.
As with everything it is the prerception that does most harm whether it is true or not. I advised this member who has been a loyal Dasa member since its inception that to the best of my knowledge Adrian Whelkes is not a DASA member, ( I stand to be corrected if I am wrong but would need to know his companies name to check the records), this has been confirmed and followed up by Dave and Steve and the member has had his concerns resolved.
Any member of DASA has the right to attend a Council meeting , non members can only attend by invitation. Dasa admin I am sure will correct me if I am wrongRe: 0800 Repairs
by Alex Reed Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:37 pmAlex wrote:Adrian Whelke is a former member.
Used to trade as Appliance Care Wales. He left as a disillusioned member and left circa 2009 as he felt he was not getting anything out of DASA. Therefore the assumption as a non-member is correct.
It has been suggested that Mr Whelke was actually denied access to the recent council meeting, I doubt the validity of that, but if it is the case I am disappointed as I thought DASA was transparent.
O.K. there is a lot of rubbish in the UKW forum, and some of what Adrian Whelke says I doubt is wholly accurate. However I as a councillor have been dragged into this by another one of the protagonists on the UKW site. I have tried my best to keep out, but have received e-mails and there have been personal asides on the forum regards my role within DASA and my reticence.
I firmly believe I am not the person to answer any of the points, and am certainly not happy to be dragged into debate whatsoever, but the pressure is getting tiresome.
You may recall I was the instigator of this matter in DASA meetings over the past year or so, and was vocal at the recent council meeting on this. I have not made those sentiments known outside of DASA however, but it seems someone is expecting me to “Come out” I am aware a solution or compromise has been reached, but it seems there are those out there in UKW land who expect me to respond on behalf of DASA as a councillor.
As I felt it was my mission to raise this in the first place where 0800.com was
?advertising the DASA membership, I am therefore the worst person to make any comment or judgement and be expected to speak on behalf of DASA.
Now I’m going to be brutal. I see the spread sheet regards making contact with prospective attendees at the AGM (Which incidentally I am unable to attend due to pre- arranged family commitments) and at present I do not feel confident in making approaches to any possible delegates on that list until this has been put to bed one way or another. I can anticipate the subject will come up, and I shall be looking at my feet regards an answer. The whole affair has become slightly embarrassing!
I was hoping that by now the topic would have run its course, but sadly today yet another sideways remark has been posted on the UKW thread endeavouring to draw me into this.
The point is, has anyone or does anyone, intend to contact Adrian Whelke, or Ken Watt in an official capacity regards this and update them on the affair.
AlexRe: 0800 Repairs
by Dave Pannell Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:24 pmDave Panell wrote:Why do you think I unsubscribed to the link on this matter on UKW, I could foresee this happening. I have been through a similar thing in 2004 along with the late Ralph Halford, we were both threatened by law suites etc, I wont go there now at all, I still have the scars.
I asked Mr Welke to produce the email sent to him by SD as the reply, I asked Mr Welke twice, if he had produced that email, everyone would have been aware that he claims was not in reality true. It makes no difference at all what is said, it is always twisted to suite. I feel for you Alex, I appreciate your anxed, however, there is nothing one can do as I see it.
I dare not go there and have a look, I know it would wind me up something chronic, however, we may have our own answer machine at our disposal. Produce a written Orbit, yes an Orbit, fully paged out with the request from Mr Welke to attend the meeting (in full), Steve’s reply (in full), and comment from Paul Greenberg etc. This to be posted out to all Members and those who Officers think should receive it, however no one, and I mean know one @ UKW must have a copy, if they do parts will be published and DASA may be punished by the voracity of the blind. However should DASA fight back? yes, I think we should, but from a united position, reassure our membership that watt is said there is not true, and for them not to be concerned by their antics.
If I belonged to the WTA, I would be concerned by the actions of fellow members and officers, it must affect them as well, it may be an idea if Steve contacted there chairman on a one to one basis to try and sort out what I can only think of as destruction to our industry from within.?Re: 0800 Repairs by Paul Mayes Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:53 am
???Paul Mayes wrote:
Alex wrote:
Adrian Whelke is a former member.
Now I’m going to be brutal. I see the spread sheet regards making contact with prospective attendees at the AGM (Which incidentally I am unable to attend due to pre-arranged family commitments) and at present I do not feel confident in making approaches to any possible delegates on that list until this has been put to bed one way or another. I can anticipate the subject will come up, and I shall be looking at my feet regards an answer. The whole affair has become slightly embarrassing!
Alex?I have to say i feel the same here Alex , I have looked at that thread and followed it generally but not in any detail as a lot of it is flim flam to say the least however I agree with your sentiments. I don’t know how many DASA members look at that thread or indeed that web site and having not been at the meeting I’m unsure in detail of how this was resolved DASA wise. I am concerned about what my response should be to questions on this if asked. I want to be able to respond properly if asked so at least Im singing from the same hymn sheet as the rest of the council.
PaulRe: 0800 Repairs
by Dave Pannell Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:25 pmDave Pannell wrote:Paul, as far as the other website is concerned, and the matter being raised at the DASA meeting that I did not attend either, to me is very simple and it is this: an email was sent to our chairman which he replied to and copied all Officers and Council in. A certain part of that email from the Chairman as a response has been taken out of context and said he was refused permission to attend the meeting, this is inaccurate and is extremely misleading to all who read it. I asked the person not once, but twice to produce the full unedited email, to show this untruth in its unveiling. That person has not had the (shall I say) guts to do so. It is only that person and our Chairman who has permission to reproduce that email, not any one else.
So, the position as far as I am concerned is this, any related question from any one but a member of DASA should be told that is between the DASA Chairman and the recipient, if they have any problems with that reply, all we can say is we are only council, this issue is down to these two persons, we are not able to comment. If a member contacts us, and they are concerned, we should point them to there DASA site, right here, and ask them to post in an open forum there concerns and what the Association is going to do, the Chairman should have this in hand and respond accordingly. If it concerns 0800, they should contact Paul Greenberg, that is all there is to it. I to agree with Alex, and, I have spoken with him today concerning this as he is getting emails from a certain quarter who is an ex member, as far as I am concerned an ex member is just that, they can ask, but we don not have to tell them, for it is a fact that it is non of there business what DASA does and does not do,it is not there concern, they are just being nosey. I feel for Alex in this situation, however if he feels so bad I think he should have a word with the Chairman.
I feel I have now gone on long enough, so all I can do is refer any one to my previous post of the 5th of September.Re: 0800 Repairs
by Steve Debeger Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:04 pmSteve Debeger wrote:Jason/Paul and Alex
I apologise for my late contribution but I have been at City and Guilds for the last 2 days helping to write the units for the new domestic appliance qualification which has proved to be rather intensive.
I am a little dissappointed that you say that you have not had information on the actions because I have copied you with the personal email I recieved from Adrian Whelke and my response to him. Furthermore, Alex and Jason where at the Council meeting where we put in place a resolution which is now avaiable for all DASA members to read, including the member who has contacted Jason, who I assume is the same member who Dave C has phoned me about.
My response to Dave was that I would be happy to speak to any DASA member who has anything they would like to discuss about the Association but also that they should regularly read the info on the web site, not take postings on other web sites as an indication of DASA policy and action, and they are welcome to attend council meetings. I am perfectly happy for you to refer anyone to me if you feel you have insufficient information to respond to a query from a member. The important thing is that the person is responded to and any issues that need further considerations are progressed through the proper channels. In response to Alex’s concerns about speaking to other members about the AGM I would say that this is an ideal time and, if necessary, you can ensure the member is aware of our position. I have started on my allocation and have been pleased with the response.
I have made clear that my view of the 0800 thread is that we should not get involved or make any response on any other site to issues not raised through DASA channels. I understand that this has always been the policy and, during my tenure, I will continue to support that position.
To update you I have received a further email from Mr Whelke, to which I have yet to respond, and he has asked for my permission to put the text of my email to him on UKW to which I intend to refuse, citing the fact that it was an individual email sent to him by me personally. In consequence it would not be right and proper that the content is publicly placed on another web site where I have no responsibility or obligations to the subscribers.
?I note from Dave P posting above that he is asking Adrian Whelke to broadcast my email yet Dave has not asked for my wishes in the matter. Mr Whelke has extended me the courtesey of asking for my permission and has asked, that if not given, would Dave P stop asking for it. I think this is a reasonable request and I will be directly corresponding to Dave P about the matter.
However the latter indicates the triviality of the exchanges and I personally begrudge the time I have had to spend on the matter. I despair of what other people and organisations must think of the people working in the domestic appliance service industry when they read these postings. The reputation and standing of our industry, particularly the independent sector, can only be damaged by such public displays.
DASA needs to stand apart from such events and not get involved with fruitless uninformed tittle tattle. We should also ensure that the content of the postings on the DASA web reflects a business like and professional organisation and does not descend into gossip. I think sometimes we miss this objective.
Regards SteveRe: 0800 Repairs
by Alex Reed Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:27 pmAlex wrote:I wholeheartedly agree that DASA needs to appear detached from the dross etc from within the UKW thread.
However, I do feel the only way towards closure is for someone in an official capacity to privately correspond to, or speak to whoever is deemed the most appropriate person within the UKW personage and advise that at the last Council meeting, a representative from 0800.com became part of appropriate discussions and as far as DASA are concerned the matter has been satisfactorily resolved.
Once that has happened I suspect the matter will divert away from DASA and all the time we will retain our respectability.
I personally feel this is a task that is overdue. AlexRe: 0800 Repairs
by Paul Mayes Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:51 amPaul Mayes wrote:?????I have made clear that my view of the 0800 thread is that we should not get involved or make any response on any other site to issues not raised through DASA channels. I understand that this has always been the policy and, during my tenure, I will continue to support that position
Thanks for this Steve. I agree with your stand on this . I have not got the email you fowarded so this may be why i’m unclear can you fowarded it to me again.
Thanks PaulRe: 0800 Repairs
by Steve DebegerSteve Debeger wrote:Alex
Page 2 of 2 Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:04 am
In response to your suggestions I have indeed exchanged early correspondences with UKW/WTA heirarchy and clearly the result has not made any difference, hence my reticence to repeat the exercise and my view that the outcome may be likewise. With respect to them the UKW web site is an open forum and, as so, they are likely to have little room to act provided that the standard of postings do not infringe their own useage rules. The choice of topic or disagreement with the arguement, would not be a valid reason to intervene.
The individuals concerned need to understand the damage they are doing and try to understand the issues from all perspectives and resolve the matter between themselves amicably.
I have made my position clear in that I will not join in any debate with non-DASA members about DASA business particularly on any third party forum. Any DASA member who has a concern about the matter can refer to this forum and add any postings they may wish or speak to other officers and councillors. I do not feel that in order to respond to the concerns of DASA members I need to do so on another web site. I specifically do not need to respond to the concerns of non-DASA members who are free to join DASA if they want a response.
Regards SteveRe: 0800 Repairs
by Alex Reed Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:20 amAlex wrote:I don’t advocate that you actually post anything, or even nominate a UKW user to do so.
My concern is that unless someone gets what they feel is an outcome, it won’t go away. Your recent e-mail to Mr Whelke, which ought to have done the trick, has already generated an update on the UKW site.
I have a feeling that like a Broadway Musical, this will run & run. AlexAde.
Re: 0800 Repair
DrDill wrote:Just publish it, if you dont want to , email me it and i will publish it on here
If there was a ‘Like’ button on forums as there is on Facebook, I’d have ‘Liked’ this! 😆
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
I presume ‘SD’ is Steve Debeger, and ‘PG’ is Paul Greenberg?
I’m happy to see that statement 🙂
At least it seems that DASA have talked about the issue. I look forward to the end of September! I’ll take time out to look at the changes and hope that they are put in to effect.
As to the CRB Statement on the website, well, that’s in the hands of the ASA so I’ll have to wait for the outcome of that!
Ade 🙂
Re: Re: 0800 Repair
Martin wrote:0800 have amended their website as a result of the furore.
Have they? Hmmmm…
Martin wrote:Why not someone compile a petition? Spell out clearly and concisely the objections. Publish it as a downloadable pdf file so it can be printed out, signed and posted to the parties in question
Good idea…
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
Yep… Repaircare are members too, but are not shown on search results from the DASA Website, however 0800Repair are…?
Repaircare aint the issue here, as although they advertise nationally for fixed cost repairs and are indeed another competitor to the Indie, they advertise and compete fairly! Basically, they say… This is what we do, this is how we do it and their T&C’s are plainly clear. Result = No issues! Open market after all.
0800Repair on the other hand, are using a Franchise model that they can’t back. They are selling the benefits of a Franchisee to the consumer, when in reality, they don’t have enough to cover at least half of the UK so they rely on JTM Agents to fill the gaps. Those that are not CRB Checked and have NO affiliation to DASA whatsoever!
DASA refuse to talk to me, and that infuriates me more than ever now. As they’ve had WEEKS to call me / see me / allow me to their meeting etc to shut me up and correct me, but they decline. That to me says a sh1t load.
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
It crossed my mind the other week, but decided against it as I didn’t want to pay the £29.38 non-refundable application fee just to receive a ‘Thanks, but no thanks’. 😉 I ordered a Dominos pizza instead 🙂
I suppose it’s now up to DASAs members that read this thread to ask the questions I have (Or similar If they have seen relevance), as they will be entitled to a reply (As was politely stated by the DASA Chairman)…!
Ade
Re: 0800 Repair
Well as per Oldtogs ‘dare’ etc to post an email recieved from the DASA Chairman, I’d later said I’d ask his permission to do so.
I’ve now had a reply saying no. It’s confidential between ourselves and I’ll respect that.
I have now come to the conclution, that DASA are not willing to talk to the ‘Trade’ that exsists outside of their membership base. It has basically been said, that DASA are only obligated to answer questions from their members. That counts me out…!
So there we have it folks, a national company (One of your biggest competitors as Indies) advertising misleading information to the consumer, being promoted / endorsed by a TA that is suppost to look out for their members, refusing to talk to a concerned member of the trade, simply because I don’t hold a DASA cert.
Simply… Unbelieveable.
Ade
