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Martin wrote:HELLO Evren are you reading this?????
Martin

Yes, I am reading but I didnt reply to your post because you must be kidding.

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kwatt wrote:That shell you see there is from the inner bearing! For the back bearing to fail water has to get to it, the only way that can happen is if it goes through the front, or inner, bearing. You can clearly see on the drum shaft residual water and detergent from your photos so water was in there, no doubt, so the front bearing was well and truly bust.

Yes, however I didnt see any residual detergent etc. around the back bearing or on the way to there. If the water was coming from front to back. Wouldnt it be logical that front bearing would go into pieces? More to that. The lubricants in the front bearing and the back bearing seemed to be clean.

kwatt wrote:They are part of the front bearing to retain the grease shields that have no doubt disintegrated as they often do.

So the front bearing comes with those shields etc. I can just cut them off and no harm done. Right? The question is from where do I get the bearing seal and the bearings?

I have to admit that I am not ready to give up at this point. Before, when I had the problem with the timer, it was also said that I should give up. But it was possible to fix the timer by glueing hard and thin plastic pieces to the worn out parts inside the timer. It was an easy task but nobody suggested it. I still do not feel that I have an impossible to accomplish task in my hand now.

Considering the cost of the parts are not so much plus I already done the hard work of opening the back of the drum. I will replace the bearings and close the machine. If it gets broken after 3 months, well then I would get rid of the machine. OK it costed 30-40euro. I saved the money already by opening the machine instead of going to gym 😉 It was quite an exercise really…

So, how can I obtain the parts really? I am not living in UK but I have a very good friend in UK who can relay the parts to me. So its not a big problem.

Thanks,
Evren

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Thanks, now I understand what is the seal you are talking about 🙂 I think it was a little bit dirty somehow, but take a look at the pictures after I wiped it with paper.

http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0818.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0820.JPG

The pictures are not so good but I see no damage where the seal is suppose to be touching. It is very smooth.

I think the reason is that the inner bearing was still intact that the drum seal didnt hit around the hole while turning etc. Only the outher bearing was in pieces although the inner bearing was making noises like it wont last long.

Do you still think that drum cant be used? I think it looks good enough that I can try my chance.

What is the purpose of these rings marked by arrows in this picture?
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0813ex.JPG
Are they a part of the bearing or ? Am I allowed to destroy them? 🙂
From where I can get them if I destroy and they are not part of the bearing?

Evren

PS. Never give up, never surrender 😉

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I just dont understand. The inner bearing was working
almost fine. The outer one went into pieces.

There are several things I dont understand in your post. What is exactly the ‘brass ring which forms the seal’ ? I am little bit confused, there were no brass rings which seal the bearing, at least I didnt see them while removing the back of the drum? What do you mean by inner shell? The inner race?

I am a little bit confused here. I thought I can remove the inner race of the inner bearing by cutting it somehow, without damaging its surroundings.

Thanks,
Evren

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Penguin45 wrote:To size the bearings you will need to measure the diameter of the shaft and the diameted of the housing, front and back. We can size them from there. Save the oil seal, it will have its size moulded into it.

The seal has some text on it. It says “30 53/60 10/13 DRL FL” and on the other side it says “30 52 10/11^5” and a little text “ROLF”. Is it possible to find this seal? I called to 3 candy/hoover repair shops and they all said its not possible to find seal for this type of machine anymore.

About the inner race. It has some rings above and under it. are those part of the race and come out with it or ?

Here are the pictures of the inner race (well the pictures are almost identical)
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0810.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0811.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0812.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0813.JPG
So what are those rings?

There seems to be many ways to remove the stuck bearing races. But how do I fit the new ones? Are they suppose to slide in easily? At least, is it going to be easier to fit them then taking the old ones out?

I tried to measure the bearings but since I still didnt remove the stuck parts it wasnt so accurate but here it goes

outer bearing inner bearing
inner race 17mm 19.5mm(about)
outer race 39mm(about) 46mm(about)

I measured the inside of inner race and outside of outer race. Are these measurements even close to some standart sizes?

Thanks,
Evren

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Well, after all this. I just ended up fixing the old timer. It was not so difficult to fix after all. Anyhow, thanks again. You have given great advices anyway 🙂

Thanks,
Evren

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Well, thanks for thinking about me 🙂 I have made a little research and I must admit that you were right. I can find a newer model washing machine which is only 2-3 years old for cheaper price. I am sorry that I was a little bit stupid yesterday. I really got p*****d off at that part yesterday somehow…

I have found a WHIRLPOOL AWM 8022 ín very good condition but the seller says it is making some noise at centrifuge… Is it easy to change the bearings in this model? 🙂 If it is easy, then it seems like I can get that machine plus bearings cheaper than the timer of Candy…

Thanks,
Evren

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By the way, if you do not want to sell the item, can you please give me the item number or something else that I can search it on other places?

Thanks,
Evren

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Well, in finland similar washing machines cost about 800euro, the part is 180euro and the machine was functioning perfectly(I asked about drum bearings in my previous emails but it was my paranoia only) but only turning one direction. I think it is a bargain price if I can get it fixed for about 200euro.

I just dont understand. I want to buy a part and the shop doesnt want to sell 🙂

Thanks,
Evren

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I have a friend in UK in Essex. He can forward the item to me. How much would be the total then? Can I pay you with paypal or is there a way that I pay you with VISA in any way? or should I also route the money through my friend?

Just forget about the bearings. I couldnt remove the nut. Although I think the bearings are fine. I am just being paranoid I guess…

Thanks,
Evren

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Actually, can you please tell me to grand total including postage? I consider buying it really. I can pay with VISA or Paypal and the shipment is to be done to Turku, Finland postcode 20540. Thanks,

By the way, could there be any possibility that I could at least change the rear bearings? 🙂 heh, my mind got stuck on them somehow… I will just try to remove the rear bearings on the machine. If I succeed, I might need replacement rear ball bearings also, how much would they cost?

Thanks,
Evren

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Here are detailed images from the unit and the text on it. Lets hope you can find it.

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http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0706.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0707.JPG
http://master.titol.fi/~yurtesen/CIMG0709.JPG
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I can submit a picture of it. Yes, 2 shafts on the front, 1 for the program selection the other for the dryer timer.

By the way, how do I submit a picture in this forum? 🙂

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Actually the sound from bearings is not so bad yet…
Other than the timer and the slight sound from bearings the machine works great. I guess it wouldnt hurt to check the price of the timer at least.

No wonder the timer is so expensive. I got inside it and the switches on the PCB of the timer must have been put one by one since it seems like they do not get off unless you start removing from one end only. Couldnt be easy to assemble at first place…

There was one switch worn off It wasnt closing the contact between D1 and D3 thats why the machine turns only on one way. Although there was an unused plastic switch part inside the timer. I didnt dare to un-solder each part until the 3rd row 🙂 It looks like quite a work to do.

I have written down everything from behind the machine (there wasnt
anything inside the door) Also the timer is Crouzet Type 2000/2008/3163
as it says on its side. As you mentioned it has the timer on too.

Elettrodomestici
S.r.l. Brugherid Italy
(there were letters inside circles, N, D, FI, S)

Alise’ 105 : G6
2050W
220V
50Hz
1000/min

3104630116 549 <– This must be the number you are looking? or not?

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Re: Candy Alise 105 Drum Bearing Maintenance…

Well, ok I now know that there is another fault in the program timer. The drum should revolve both ways when washing. Do you have this item in your shop? although I didnt see it in there…? How much does it cost?

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