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Re: electrical safety testing ?
I got the 70 figure from the info regarding Beko current situation, its for deaths attributed to Domestic Appliances.
I would imagine the figure for deaths attributed to repaired appliances would be low, which brings me back to the original point.
Why bother safety testing before during or after a repair.
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Lee, Just wondering: If you did’nt have to as part of your contract, would you still carry a Megger / Loop tester & carry out testing ? Or do you just do it because you have to ?
You keep saying that your not telling people not to safety test, so why keep bitching at those of us that choose to do things properly as we see them ?. We know we don’t have to do the tests but to us it’s the right thing to do.Re: electrical safety testing ?
Martin wrote:From 0800’s web site…..
Sort of say’s it all really does’nt it ? 👿 A simple Earth continuity test could have saved this young guy’s life.
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according to the attachment posted by Martin from the 0800 website, the bottom line says “It’s all colour coded and it is all Electrician’s first basic lesson is to know how to wire a plug”
yes… but he was a plumber so surely you can’t expect him to know how to wire up a plug?
It didn’t say if he was carrying out electrical work.
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Looking at that I don’t think he was the 1 who wired it up, he was working on the property & touched the machine. May be wrong but that’s the way I read it, most plumbers do basic Electrics anyway so they can wire up a pump etc. But the same point stands: A simple Earth continuity test would have shown there was a serious problem. We will probably get the rest of the facts as the case continues.
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Yep: that would have worked, Would have shown straight away that the caseing was live. Don’t know how many plumbers actually use them or even if he’d have thought of using it, if for example he was just leaning on the machine to get at something else. That’s why I said Earth continuity test, if whoever wired the plug had done 1 then they’d have known there was a problem and hopefully sorted it out before something like this could have happened. Unfortunately I doubt we’ll ever know who wired the plug, don’t think anyone is going to come forward & admit it.
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twicknix wrote:Or a non contact voltage pen?
😕 That would just show there was mains voltage into the appliance which there should be if it was plugged in. You can get a bleep from a voltage pen if you hover it around anywhere on the facia on most machines.
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I don’t normally put my non contact tester anywhere near the front of the machine, just the side or top. If the appliance is properly Earthed then it should’nt light up. I find the MK power trace testers with the sensitivity pot are better than most.
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iadom wrote:You can get a bleep from a voltage pen if you hover it around anywhere on the facia on most machines.
Voltage pens now is it? Best not to wave them around too much lest you get false readings off anything even mildly electrostatic. For example: The combined effect of my fully insulated work boots and nylon underwear creates an alarmingly false reading whenever I whip my pen out….! :clown:
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voltage stick is the first line of defense , obviously you will get it to light if you put it near the facia etc – but it shouldn’t light up if you touch inside drum side panel etc ..used with common sense it will alert you to any possible dangers ..
brit gas plumbers use them or are supposed to , i think one of their plumbers got killed up in a loft when he touched live copper pipe.
in the case of the plumbers employer he will need to justify himself in front of a jury …. but in his defense should the plumber have had basic electrical skill – another can of worms i think …
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Specialist01269 wrote:Lee, Just wondering: If you did’nt have to as part of your contract, would you still carry a Megger / Loop tester & carry out testing ? Or do you just do it because you have to ?
Since I’m calling on the industry to become, qualified, regulated I’d have thought the answer would be obvious.
Yes I would still carry out those tests.
You keep saying that your not telling people not to safety test, so why keep bitching at those of us that choose to do things properly as we see them ?. We know we don’t have to do the tests but to us it’s the right thing to do.
See above response. :rolls:
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