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  • #400576
    iadom
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    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    Andy jones wrote:I’ve jut done a quick google and up it popped

    If you Google most things by name the will ‘pop up’ try Googling washer repairs.;)

    #400577
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    It really is a swings and roundabouts way of getting work. If you don’t fit parts you make a loss on your usual charges, but still get say 70-80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. If it is BER then I get say £49.50 – their £20.00 =£29.50 + VAT, which is £4.50 more than my usual charge

    no van of mine is moving off my drive for this money,
    but if it works for you then good luck?
    £20 per job loss no not for me.

    #400578
    robbra
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    It really is a swings and roundabouts way of getting work. If you don’t fit parts you make a loss on your usual charges, but still get say 70-80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. If it is BER then I get say £49.50 – their £20.00 =£29.50 + VAT, which is £4.50 more than my usual charge.
    Jazz.

    Your normal labour charge is £25.00? Mine is double that.
    You must be running around like a mad. Ok you might get a lot of work but you are undervaluing yourself. You are also giving that company nearly half of your potential earning per job just for the intro.
    I don’t understand your economics on both your labour charge or contibution for the intro.
    Not having a go just confused.
    Rob

    #400579
    jamieparrie
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    i spoke to a warranty firm a couple of weeks ago that were paying between 32 – 45 per job end of. no parts profit nothing. they said it goes down to 20 if the appliance was ber. so its not hard for me to see whats worth more money. like someone else said though, it works for some and maybe not others. i personally find that a repair in most instances needs a part of some kind as they are like electrical customers, they wont call you out for a tripped rcd, they call tou out because something tripped it. people saying about 29 for a repair on here but in reality, its way more than some i have been offered for doing under warranty work. especially when we are doing lots of samsung fridges and making over 100 on each one . its only 49 for washers and dryers then the charges go up. i look at it like this, if i fix a washer no parts and make 29 and my next job is a range cooker element making 100 and my next one is a samsung fridge making 100 then ive had 229 for 3 jobs. using average means i get 76 a job. and ive quickly seen that in this trade thats not bad. and i get my money there n then and not in 4 or 6 weeks.

    #400580
    robbra
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    Jamie,
    By your reasoning it’s ok to make a loss, which it is, on a job if you can make a large profit on others.
    What if you don’t get the large profit jobs, then it’s all losses.
    Rob

    #400581
    jamieparrie
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    hello. it doesnt happen, or hasnt yet. like the others above me in here,it works for me quite well and im happy with it. if i compare what i do for national appliance care against the firm i spoke to the other week,it looks like im doing half the work for similar income.i also saving quite a bit of money on advertising and my phone isnt ringing all day with people wanting a repair for free.

    #400582
    Jazzmeister
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    robbra wrote:It really is a swings and roundabouts way of getting work. If you don’t fit parts you make a loss on your usual charges, but still get say 70-80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. If it is BER then I get say £49.50 – their £20.00 =£29.50 + VAT, which is £4.50 more than my usual charge.
    Jazz.

    Your normal labour charge is £25.00? Mine is double that.
    You must be running around like a mad. Ok you might get a lot of work but you are undervaluing yourself. You are also giving that company nearly half of your potential earning per job just for the intro.
    I don’t understand your economics on both your labour charge or contibution for the intro.
    Not having a go just confused.
    Rob

    I usually charge £25.00 for an estimate. £45.00 wm repair , £55 gas and integrated, 70 range and large refrigeration. Not that my economics should really bother you…. But as I say, as a gap filler when otherwise I would be doing nothing….how can it be a loss if I cover my fuel and other cost and make money on top that I would not otherwise have had?


    But this is going off topic in my opinion, so I will shit up now :-).

    Jazz

    #400583
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    my gripe with work providers, that has been covered on this site many times, is if they pay you peanuts, and you go to work for them for these small offerings your are in the bigger scheme of things slowly eroding the long term success of your own customer base, which is the foundations of your own strong company.
    whilst short term it looks like you are doing ok out of this type of work long term as my accounts will tell me.(by the way I don’t work for anyone that pays this money , never have, which so far has been 28yrs)
    year on year my company grows, and its a fact that this works better.
    stop letting other work providers run your success into peanut offerings,

    no crumbs for me sir, I want to eat well.

    canufixit

    ps, not having ago at anyone just trying to help others 😀

    #400584
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    robbra wrote:Jamie,
    By your reasoning………………

    Jamie’s reasoning is sound enough Rob as first off he’s getting a mass of work from them. Each is a cash, pay up front job all done at his pace and choosing and likely as not most will require parts. So based on the fact he get 20 to 30 jobs a week from it then I’d say his “reasoning” is well logical. Many of us could only dream of such an opportunity from just one work provider. An unbelievable money spinner.

    #400585
    jamieparrie
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    hello canufixit. i suppose in a way this will benefit me too. as long as i do a good job,who do they ring in the future? probably me 😀 so in a way this work from national appliance care could help me build my customer base.when they pass the customer they dont have any further input in to the job so theyliterally are passed to me and future work bythese customers depend soley on the way my business does the repair.

    #400586
    Andy jones
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    You go 1st time and not make a lot of money. Do a good job give them you’re own business card and hey presto another customer of you’re own. Gotta speculate to accumulate sometimes


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    #400587
    Jazzmeister
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    Exactly Andy, you hit the nail on the head. They have no issue with you giving the customer your card and details at any point, so building the customer base at the same time.

    Jazz

    #400588
    timdowning
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    I’d still like to know how people are finding out about this National Appliance Care to book the call in the first place.

    Re: profit on spares. How much can you charge for a pair of carbons or the odd drain pump. I would imagine it would soon come back to bite you if you overcharged.

    #400589
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    I’m staggered at the amount of work this outfit appears, on the face of it, to be generating for indies. I bet Ken is kicking himself thinking perhaps Repairs@ could have taken that route? Hmmmm?

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    #400590
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: National Appliance Care ?

    Martin wrote:I bet Ken is kicking himself thinking perhaps Repairs@ could have taken that route? Hmmmm?

    Not really, no.

    I can sleep at night knowing that I’m not ripping people off and never have done.

    The notion of going down the road of a GoLocal, Servicenet or whatever the hell else sort of get rich quick scheme never really appealed to me. I couldn’t bring myself to take money from the guys with the least of it in the industry, just seemed wrong to do so.

    If people are happy enough to pony up for it then no problem, I’ll get a whole Google Adwords campaign up and running etc as well but, I doubt enough people would be interested so it’s probably not worth looking at.

    Equally, if people are happy enough to fly with this then they can get on with it so far as I’m concerned, none of my business.

    I am not really even slightly interested in it other than as a passing curiosity because I wouldn’t want my name there, every manufacturer or whatever I worked for that also reads this forum will know I will work at reduced rates. For myself, that’s not a smart thing to advertise but, to each their own.

    K.

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