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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
I don’t think there was any implication toward you Simon or offence meant.
What it looks like, from the outside is that a couple of people were probably asked to post something complimentary towards NAC most likely as a “favour for a mate”. Whether that was the case in the original post or not only you will know.
What fell off the back of that is what’s relevant not how it got here as I said earlier, the reason being that all the posters were just doing their best for a friend and there should be no issue with that at all. Largely because I very much doubt that they were getting the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I suspect that, as a lot of the rantings have been from NAC or Mr Welke or whatever other alter ego is posting, that they too have been fed a line.
Most likely told that myself and Lawrence are the Spawn of Satan or the devil incarnate, we threw Adrain out the WTA, I bumped him off here as part of some vendetta and a whole heap of other absolute and total lies. Or, at best an Adrian flavoured version of the truth that suits his agenda.
After that all went off yes, there was a vendetta but it’s the other way around from what’s being posted here by NationalAppCare.
I’m not too keen to cause further harm or embarrassment to Adrian but should he wish to press the matter I’m quite happy to do so and let all the truth come out. However, that could be damaging for Adrian, won’t bother anyone else in the slightest.
You see, this is not the first time that the truth has been bent or just out and out perverted by a certain muppet but, he can be very convincing at times.
Trouble is, the lies never stand up to proper scrutiny.
Just as has been the case in this thread.
K.
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
kwatt wrote:So why did I have to answer some of the questions that you were evading then?
You haven’t. You have merely published nothing but theory and false facts.
kwatt wrote:You still have given us not a shred of proof that “John Cohen” even exists never mind that this (fictional) person ever worked at any manufacturer, for all we know he could have been the tea boy in the packing department.
You do not warrant any ‘proof’ of my existence. You are in no position to question or demand answers to anything from me. Please bare in mind that the majority of people that I have seen post here and in other similar ‘attacking’ style threads, post by a username and not that of a real name. It was my choice to sign my name, it’s also my choice to ignore your demands for anything.
NationalAppCare wrote:I’d like to invite you ‘canufixit’ to contact myself, Ade or Mick on Monday. We will happily set you up for a week and pass you jobs for free! As in not a penny! A free weeks worth of fully chargeable repairs, just before Christmas… On us!
kwatt wrote:Yes and that’s not a promotional offer at all is it?
No. Not at all. It was addressed to one of the posters so we could offer him / her an opportunity to experience first hand the work we produce and the way we work as currently, his statement regarding it being a ‘con’ is absolute nonsense. We cannot ‘con’ anyone as they pay for JOBS, not leads well after accepting them and in most instances, completing them, either way, well after they have collected the quoted Service Charge. I can not fathom for the life of me how we could ‘con’ any engineer. I believe by leading people to believe it’s a con, is simply your way of attempting to cause harm to the business. Let me stress this, it will not work. Week after week after week, engineers get work, engineers do the work and pay for the work, on time, in full and without dispute or complaint. That in itself and the fact that we recruit weekly is a sure indication that NAC is on the rise.
kwatt wrote:You complete and utter muppet Adrian, do you really think that we’re all that stupid that we can’t see through your little schemes, plans and idiotic claims.
Your obsession with Mr Welke needs addressing. You sound like a man who needs help about it, and quickly.
John Cohen
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
NationalAppCare wrote:You haven’t. You have merely published nothing but theory and false facts.
NationalAppCare wrote:You do not warrant any ‘proof’ of my existence. You are in no position to question or demand answers to anything from me. Please bare in mind that the majority of people that I have seen post here and in other similar ‘attacking’ style threads, post by a username and not that of a real name. It was my choice to sign my name, it’s also my choice to ignore your demands for anything.
What?
That doesn’t make any sense and just makes you appear unhinged to be blunt.
You accuse me of publishing falsehoods yet provide not a shred of evidence to refute them which, correct me if I’m wrong, would actually make my assertions appear to be still more valid.
I suspect the reason that you cannot answer is because to do so would reveal the scam that you are attempting to perpetrate on the trade at large and you wouldn’t want that now would you… Adrain?
kwatt wrote:Yes and that’s not a promotional offer at all is it?
NationalAppCare wrote:No. Not at all.
Please go look at a dictionary and try to nurture some sense and understanding, I understand it could be challenging but it will reap more reward than this endeavour likely will..
A Dictionary wrote:promotion
noun
1. activity that supports or encourages a cause, venture, or aim.2. the publicizing of a product, organization, or venture so as to increase sales or public awareness.
Therefore, by definition it indeed was a promotion, just as most of your posts have been to try to promote this rubbish as being a good idea.
But it is Christmas time, I guess we should have expected to see some turkeys and, this is surely a turkey or, is that a dead duck?
K.
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
NationalAppCare wrote:Please bare in mind that the majority of people that I have seen post here and in other similar ‘attacking’ style threads, post by a username and not that of a real name. It was my choice to sign my name, it’s also my choice to ignore your demands for anything.
Username or not, I am willing to bet that the name, business and credentials of every single one of the people you are deriding is known to virtually all forum members and in most cases by you yourself. 😉
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
Mr Cohen needs to view his own list of registered businesses.
To promote a business in the hope it will grow is one thing, to promote a business as being greater than its current position is beyond belief and its current position on here leads everyone to conclude that NAC and its current untracable management team is possibly either fraudulent or more likely the business is the size of someones IQ and there ego is the greater measure.
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
NationalAppCare wrote:Hi ‘canufixit’,
You have absolutely no knowledge of us or what we do apart from reading a lot of gobbledygook by UKWhitegoods Admin who are on a mission to deny NAC of any adult, grown up conversation.
NAC Did not start this thread so you could say that we have NOT come here to promote NAC.
I’d like to invite you ‘canufixit’ to contact myself, Ade or Mick on Monday. We will happily set you up for a week and pass you jobs for free! As in not a penny! A free weeks worth of fully chargeable repairs, just before Christmas… On us!
You will then be able to make an educated opinion on any value it might bring to you and you will then be able to make an educated and factual statement about NAC Based on factual experiences NOT based on ‘Heresay’ or comments made by UKWhitegoods Admin.
That’s a no thanks, I am not needing extra work, to busy running my own business, finding my own work on my own merits
don’t ,never had to take hand outs working for lower rates.
managed to pull it off for 28 yrs,like this.so I will stick to what works, and what makes me more profit which I will then reinvest in my own company,thanks but no thanks
canufixit
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
You may have to wait a day or so for a response, he has to go up and think of one that would carry any credence at all or, a way to completely avoid any actual answers whilst still making the vain attempt to promote this debacle.
You can expect however, lies, lies and more damned lies. 😉
It is mildly entertaining though seeing him trying to wriggle out of admitting the truth.
K.
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
canufixit wrote:
NationalAppCare wrote:
I’d like to invite you ‘canufixit’ to contact myself, Ade or Mick on Monday. We will happily set you up for a week and pass you jobs for free! As in not a penny! A free weeks worth of fully chargeable repairs, just before Christmas… On us!You will then be able to make an educated opinion on any value it might bring to you and you will then be able to make an educated and factual statement about NAC Based on factual experiences NOT based on ‘Heresay’ or comments made by UKWhitegoods Admin.
That’s a no thanks, I am not needing extra work, to busy running my own business, finding my own work on my own merits
don’t ,never had to take hand outs working for lower rates.
managed to pull it off for 28 yrs,like this.so I will stick to what works, and what makes me more profit which I will then reinvest in my own company,thanks but no thanks
canufixit
Hi,
Thank you for your reply. No problem and it’s good to hear you’re successful at generating chargeable jobs. Like most things, NAC will not be for everyone, but for those that it does suit is a huge benefit to their businesses.
I thought it would be apt that we offered you an opportunity to talk to us and see first hand what we do.
Regards,
John.
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
funkyboogy wrote:is there any member on here signed up with NACFMETRADEBOOK.?
Jaime parriesite.:mrgreen:
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
funkyboogy wrote:is there any member on here signed up with NACFMETRADEBOOK.?
I tried Googling that name Ally with no success.
If you refer though as to what registered UKW trade members are also registered with both UKTradebook and NAC then to my certain knowledge (having checked both) I can count 12. Do bear in mind we all have a free choice as to where we choose to source our work and the majority of us keep that to ourselves for obvious reasons anyway. Free country, free to choose, what works for some doesn’t necessarily work for all.
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
Whats the saying, oh yeah “God must love idiots, he made so many”.
There will always be fools, watchdog will continue and like the stupid clients we laugh about there are just as many stupid so called engineers that cannot put 2 & 2 together.
But at least thanks to the internet, although it makes it easier for people to get sucked into these new concepts, it also allows people to speak freely and fore warn people of the likely impending cash/client departure.
I’ve been threatened by people many times in my line of work, comes with the terittory, the vast majority has been from people that are both desperate and guilty.
The current crop of crap l read here makes me believe that whilst NAC is not ripping people off it certainly isn’t good for the majority of our kind of business.
One business may well believe it helps them to get all the business in that area without having the hassle of adverts etc etc. If Jaimes intellect is real, then that is the ideal business for NAC. Until something goes wrong, then l suspect holes will appear in the concept, not that anybody will care to listen.
What has recently happened to aide, (l believe he had the idea of NAC years ago and come here to UKW originally to get into the back office as a mod), is the sudden realisation that all internet based businesses which rely on high volume traffic, to be popular enough to make money there is an age old expensive issue of marketing nationally.
Which is why if you google an appliance repair NAC is nowhere to be seen nationally.
You need money, lots quickly and repairers, kinda catch 22. Unless you try to convince peeps to sign up & wait for the work to flood in.
But beware, your paying for the referral, if the client does not like your charge NAC still get you to pay them £20.00. I suspect also that clients will demand an alternative from NAC, l’m sure NAC will then charge another business £20.00. The potential income from one client to multiple agencies could be a nice little earner.
Think about it before we get the excuse. Don’t forget XRay, one of the managment has history.
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
Martin wrote:Do bear in mind we all have a free choice as to where we choose to source our work and the majority of us keep that to ourselves for obvious reasons anyway. Free country, free to choose, what works for some doesn’t necessarily work for all.
Absolutely.
However that doesn’t stop anyone from trying to inform those that wish to do from acting with full knowledge of what they are getting into so that they may make an informed choice rather than one based solely on propaganda from any company, not just this one.
It also does not mean that free advertising or promotion would be allowed on this website or any other without express permission.
K.
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
lee8 wrote:But beware, your paying for the referral, if the client does not like your charge NAC still get you to pay them £20.00. I suspect also that clients will demand an alternative from NAC, l’m sure NAC will then charge another business £20.00
That’s not how it works Lee. Once again you’re getting so engrossed in the hysteria that this thread has created to lose grip of the actual facts of this type work providing generates. Do take time to read back through these seemingly endless pages of this thread please. See that I have been very vocal, as is my way, sceptical and darned right aggressive toward the like of ‘certain individuals’ that have posted on here. I was called Magnum PI (I’ve been called worse) on two occasions when simply trying to get to the facts of what the hell was going on? Through the shouts of “con” and “deception”, “libel” and “liars” I’ve tried to make sense of it all.
The facts are that this company grabs work off the Internet, like so many other companies (0800repair, Repaircare, GoLocal etc) except its fees are charged by the repairer once the job is accepted. If the customer later cancels or other circumstances prevent the engineer from proceeding then the fee is waived. Many trade members have chosen this type of work, their choice, their decision (as I said before) good for some, not for others, free country, blah blah!
Those ARE the facts and, if we try to refrain from hysterical childish name calling but instead make of them what you will, we can all learn to live together once again.
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