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December 10, 2013 at 8:21 pm #400801
DrDill
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No it was a proper pool,, as was the rolls Royce he drove
December 10, 2013 at 8:49 pm #400802Jackal
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DrDill wrote:he use to be in a dressing gown till midday after having a swim in his private pool, and had a tan!
Ha ha Doc
I like it and know exactly who you mean
Jackal
December 10, 2013 at 11:58 pm #400803kwatt
KeymasterRe: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
In part you have to admire the tenacity and the ability to display more front than a row of shops. However misguided that might be.
I have no call to deride the guy or any of his friends, alter egos or whatever as it serves me no purpose.
What I do want to be understood, in no uncertain terms, is that people that pretend to be something that they are not or misrepresent themselves to myself or the engineers at large will get no change from me or any of the mods or WTA people and, no mercy if the intent is to deceive or mislead.
As demonstrated, with no more than a modicum of effort you can uncover an awful lot about a business or an individual these days, fairly easily.
That might seem a little harsh but, we’ve all seen the results of people being screwed over or, we’ve been one of the victims of a scam. I see no call to allow others to be duped and lose money.
Cases in point, GoLocal, Servicenet, MAAC (maybe)…. I’m sure that there have been a number of others in the time UKW has been around and while UKW may not have saved the day every time or prevented any loss, I’d be willing to bet it has limited it as much as is reasonably possible.
In large part, you can thank the people mentioned above for that as well as many of the UKW members in general, but especially a small group of them. You know, that small vocal group that quiz everything and everybody. The very same in fact that usually get derided for doing the very same as was the case here in this very thread. It’s almost a certainty that at some point in any thread like this, it’ll be me being a bully, me being a {e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}^{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}&{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} or whatever or the small group that will pop their heads above the parapet that get the finger pointed at them as the bad guys.
Problem is, they aren’t the bad guys at all. Not even close.
I would thank them all once again for their perseverance, often restraint and patience in dealing with this and all the others of a similar nature.
I would point out though and, this is a really, really important point; these people that have contributed, badgered and questioned have nothing whatsoever to gain bar hassle. They don’t get paid to do this in any way whatsoever and have absolutely no vested interest either way.
That fact tells you a lot if you ponder it a little and consider the effort demonstrated.
K.
December 12, 2013 at 6:47 pm #400804funkyboogy
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strange silence maybe we should build a new site
F M Ade
December 12, 2013 at 8:05 pm #400805admin
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well what a read this has been……… 🙂
a lot of effort, put into another con.!Get a job in politics, (more money in that plus a 11{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} pay rise soon to come)
give white goods up, you have been found out NAC 😀
canufixit
December 13, 2013 at 4:34 pm #400806NationalAppCare
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canufixit wrote:a lot of effort, put into another con.
Hi all,
I’d like to clarify that it’s gone quiet here because my associates have offered to answer questions in a place that they can speak freely, without moderation and without post edits and / or deletes.
The offer was made to any reader, UK Whitegoods staff included.
To my knowledge, a handful of people have joined to read what’s been asked.
Now, if I may head my posting in the direction of the quote above:
Mr Watt, you have lead people to assume that National Appliance Care is a con. We find that very offensive and blatantly untrue. I would suggest, that at worst you re-word some of your postings and explain yourself better and at best, apologise for the malicious, unfounded and theoretical postings you have made . Leading people, closed forum or not, to believe something that is inaccurate about the subject is the same as spouting lies and deliberately deceiving readers. I beg of you to liaise with your resident lawyer, Mr Carl Robinson before replying to me.
A screenshot of this posting has been taken and also the confirmation page I will receive stating it has to be approved before posting.
Kind Regards,
John Cohen.
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December 13, 2013 at 8:59 pm #400807kwatt
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NationalAppCare wrote:I’d like to clarify that it’s gone quiet here because my associates have offered to answer questions in a place that they can speak freely, without moderation and without post edits and / or deletes.
In other words, in an area where you control what can and cannot be said.
Funny, that’s what you choose to accuse myself of and yet, that’s what you wish to achieve for your own ends.
NationalAppCare wrote:The offer was made to any reader, UK Whitegoods staff included.
Knock yourself out and, good luck with that.
NationalAppCare wrote:To my knowledge, a handful of people have joined to read what’s been asked.
Okay, so?
You can tell how interesting it was to everyone by the tumbleweed bouncing past.
NationalAppCare wrote:Mr Watt, you have lead people to assume that National Appliance Care is a con. We find that very offensive and blatantly untrue.
Presenting facts and postulating on what’s gone on isn’t leading anyone anywhere, it does what it says on the tin and people can choose to decide for themselves but, at least it’s an informed decision and not one based on lies and rhetoric from you or any of the other voices in your head.
By the way, I assume I’m talking to Adrian Welke given that there is no evidence of any other employees and no budget to pay for them. So far as I can tell John Cohen is a fictional character invented by the same Mr Welke.
Therefore it would be reasonable to assume that thus far, not a scrap of what’s been said is true as it has all been perpetrated on a fiction.
Now, what were you saying about being offensive?
I have to thank you for allowing me to expand on that as, earlier in the thread you said..
NationalAppCare wrote:It’s been reported to me that a few people have chosen to join the NAC Forum and one in particular has been a pleasure to liaise with regarding debate and question answering.
Only, as I understand it, only site admin has responded to those posts and that would be none other than the infamous Mr Welke.
Now, I have to ask myself, how can you have a pleasant conversation when you reportedly haven’t posted? Unless of course, the posters are the same, as in John Cohen and Adrian Welke are indeed one and the same which, I’d be willing to wager that they were.
NationalAppCare wrote:I would suggest, that at worst you re-word some of your postings and explain yourself better and at best, apologise for the malicious, unfounded and theoretical postings you have made .
No, I will not.
NationalAppCare wrote:Leading people, closed forum or not, to believe something that is inaccurate about the subject is the same as spouting lies and deliberately deceiving readers. I beg of you to liaise with your resident lawyer, Mr Carl Robinson before replying to me.
There isn’t a “resident lawyer” and what do I need one for anyway?
To bring libel I would have to publish something that was untrue and, I have not. As for the speculation, well, we have this little principal of free speech, you might have heard of it…
Some nutter threatening legal action though to pursue a libel case that…
a. Any action is not and could not be justified.
b. The aggravator has no funding to cover the cost of the pursuit.
…is hardly a worry.
If you pop down your local Legal Aid solicitor they will explain to you that you can’t get Legal Aid for something like this as well and, I doubt the no-win-no-fee brigade would touch it either, even they’ve got more sense.
So your inferred threat is really having me sat here quaking in my boots. Mainly due to the laughter.
But my laughter is amplified as you just published an untruth about Carl and, you know only too well I should imagine, that was a stupid, stupid thing to do. You do not prod that bear and expect to get away with it so you’d better hope that Carl doesn’t take offence as he tends not to be as patient or forgiving as I am.
NationalAppCare wrote:A screenshot of this posting has been taken and also the confirmation page I will receive stating it has to be approved before posting.
Oh dear, now you’ve got me.
You’re going to call the Forum Police and report me with all your “evidence” as being a bad boy. I must immediately get my affairs in order!! 😆
Adrian, get a grip.
Go away, give this up and find another way to make a living because quite clearly, you’re not very good at this and all your lies will just trip you up every time. And, you’re just looking more and more of a fool along the way with all the utter garbage that you’re spouting.
But sir, you are a liar and you have been caught lying time after time after time causing yourself and your business to be called into disrepute. In fact, you’ve turned the whole concept of NAC into a joke.
You did that, nobody else so please don’t try to blame me for your failings.
Do I or others want to do business with a person like that? I don’t think so.
Enjoy your evening.
K.
December 13, 2013 at 9:38 pm #400808admin
KeymasterRe: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
“The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary,…..So that the necessary may speak..”
canufixitDecember 14, 2013 at 12:45 am #400809kwatt
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Sorry canufixit, if that was aimed at me.
Short, simplified version…
The person/people using the account “NationalAppCare” tells lies IMO and the evidence strongly appears to support that view.
The person/people using the account “jamieparrie” tells lies IMO and the evidence strongly appears to support that view.
It is quite probable, some may even say for sure, that these two accounts are being shared by one person. That person is in all probability the owner of NAC, Adrian Welke.
IMO, this company is a scam intended to lever money out the repairers though nefarious means and the ranting drivel is merely an attempt to promote the scam.
That pretty much covers it really.
K.
December 14, 2013 at 9:10 am #400810lee8
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Jesus what muppet.
Deffo somebody needs medical not legal aid.
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December 14, 2013 at 9:41 am #400811admin
KeymasterRe: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
kwatt wrote:Sorry canufixit, if that was aimed at me.
Short, simplified version…
The person/people using the account “NationalAppCare” tells lies IMO and the evidence strongly appears to support that view.
The person/people using the account “jamieparrie” tells lies IMO and the evidence strongly appears to support that view.
It is quite probable, some may even say for sure, that these two accounts are being shared by one person. That person is in all probability the owner of NAC, Adrian Welke.
IMO, this company is a scam intended to lever money out the repairers though nefarious means and the ranting drivel is merely an attempt to promote the scam.
That pretty much covers it really.
K.
The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary,…..So that the necessary may speak..”
KNO not at all aimed at you, but meant to be that if your up front and honest then unlike NAC, had he simplified, not gone into this smoke and mirrors way of running a con the necessary will speak. it is a CON 👿
keep up the good work 😀
canufixit
December 14, 2013 at 10:32 am #400812NationalAppCare
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Hi ‘canufixit’,
You have absolutely no knowledge of us or what we do apart from reading a lot of gobbledygook by UKWhitegoods Admin who are on a mission to deny NAC of any adult, grown up conversation.
NAC Did not start this thread so you could say that we have NOT come here to promote NAC.
I’d like to invite you ‘canufixit’ to contact myself, Ade or Mick on Monday. We will happily set you up for a week and pass you jobs for free! As in not a penny! A free weeks worth of fully chargeable repairs, just before Christmas… On us!
You will then be able to make an educated opinion on any value it might bring to you and you will then be able to make an educated and factual statement about NAC Based on factual experiences NOT based on ‘Heresay’ or comments made by UKWhitegoods Admin.
The offer is there, that’s all you need to do is email me: and I’ll arrange everything.
Regards,
John Cohen
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December 14, 2013 at 10:47 am #400813kwatt
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NationalAppCare wrote:You have absolutely no knowledge of us or what we do apart from reading a lot of gobbledygook by UKWhitegoods Admin who are on a mission to deny NAC of any adult, grown up conversation.
Yeah, okay.
So why did I have to answer some of the questions that you were evading then?
You still have given us not a shred of proof that “John Cohen” even exists never mind that this (fictional) person ever worked at any manufacturer, for all we know he could have been the tea boy in the packing department.
NationalAppCare wrote:NAC Did not start this thread so you could say that we have NOT come here to promote NAC.
Uh huh, so your continued need to respond after you said you were not going to continue would be what exactly then?
NationalAppCare wrote:I’d like to invite you ‘canufixit’ to contact myself, Ade or Mick on Monday. We will happily set you up for a week and pass you jobs for free! As in not a penny! A free weeks worth of fully chargeable repairs, just before Christmas… On us!
Yes and that’s not a promotional offer at all is it?
You complete and utter muppet Adrian, do you really think that we’re all that stupid that we can’t see through your little schemes, plans and idiotic claims.
You strike me as nothing more than a desperate buffoon blundering about like a bull in a china shop. Emphasis on “desperate” and “buffoon”.
K.
December 14, 2013 at 11:19 am #400814iadom
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However, the thread was started by a member who was already listed as an agent at UKTradebook.com
Coincidence or not, make your own minds up. 😉
December 14, 2013 at 11:50 am #400815admin
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iadom wrote:However, the thread was started by a member who was already listed as an agent at UKTradebook.com
Coincidence or not, make your own minds up. 😉
and ?
Ive been a member on that site since it started, and I didn’t know they were linked to NAC
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