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December 10, 2013 at 9:38 am #400786
Martin
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NationalAppCare wrote:Please feel free to ask your questions to us directly by following the link below.
http://www.uktradetalk.com/viewtopic.ph … qbHTH8gGK0
I did try registering to do just that a few weeks back but was never contacted by their ‘admin’ for some reason.
December 10, 2013 at 10:15 am #400787NationalAppCare
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I’ll pass your comment on Martin. You could try again as I would assume it wasn’t received.
Regards,
John.
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December 10, 2013 at 10:33 am #400788Martin
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NationalAppCare wrote:You could try again as I would assume it wasn’t received.
I’ve done so 3 or 4 times, each time it’s telling me an activation code has been sent to my email address. Every time….nada! š
December 10, 2013 at 11:35 am #400789NationalAppCare
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Very odd Martin. Please see the feedback I’ve just received:
“Hi mate, no issues here. Just registered and de-registered 3 user accounts with no problems. Could you ask the user to check junk / spam folders for the activation link. If they have not received the link, let me know their username and I’ll manually activate the account”
Regards,
John.
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December 10, 2013 at 12:28 pm #400790Martin
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Ah at last it works and I’ve posted a question under my ‘real’ name š
December 10, 2013 at 3:29 pm #400791kwatt
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Since you want to avoid any difficult questions, hereās a bit more information about UKTradebook.com LTD (UKT) or, (National) Appliance Care (NAC) or, Findmyengineer.co.uk LTD (FME).
All of this information is a matter of public record and, if you want to go look you will find it all to be freely and publicly available. You can find it all in under twenty minutes using the Companies House website and Google.
It appears that what was FME became UKT through a change of name on the 28th February this year.
So, just as we presumed, same pig in a different dress.
But things get a bit more interesting than just that with the information published on Companies House, as follows:
Name & Registered Office:
UKTRADEBOOK.COM LTD
120 CAVENDISH PLACE
EASTBOURNE
EAST SUSSEX
ENGLAND
BN21 3TZ
Company No. 07531907Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 16/02/2011Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited CompanyNature of Business (SIC):
82990 – Other business support service activities not elsewhere classifiedAccounting Reference Date: 29/02
Last Accounts Made Up To: 28/02/2013 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)
Next Accounts Due: 30/11/2014
Last Return Made Up To: 16/02/2013
Next Return Due: 16/03/2014
Mortgage: Number of charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 satisfied / 0 part satisfied )
Last Members List: 16/02/2013Previous Names:
Date of change Previous Name
28/02/2013 FINDMYENGINEER.CO.UK LTD
Now, when you use a little Google-Fu you will find that the address given as the registered address is here:
As you can see, the offices of an accountancy service. If you desire you can find them online here: http://www.taxassist.co.uk but I imagine that this is just a franchise of the main body but the fullest details are here: http://www.taxassist.co.uk/accountants/eastbourne
Michael David Eden
According to sources though a person that is registered with this address as being their address, details are:
MR MICHAEL DAVID EDEN
120 CAVENDISH PLACE
EASTBOURNE
EAST SUSSEX
ENGLAND
BN21 3TZ
Information
Date Of Birth:Jun-1967
Age:46 Years
Nationality:BRITISH
Country of Residence:ENGLAND
Occupation:COMPANY DIRECTORJamie Parmley
Then we have the mysterious Jamie Parmley.
MR JAMIE MICHAEL PARMLEY
UNIT 6 THE BEECHES INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
COED CAE LANE TALBOT GREEN
PONTYCLUN
MID GLAMORGAN
UNITED KINGDOM
CF72 9DY
Information
Date Of Birth:Nov-1983
Nationality:BRITISH
Country of Residence:UNITED KINGDOM
Occupation:IT DIRECTORHe resigned as a director on 16th January this year and appears to have resided at Adrianās old business address until then. There again, so did/does Adrian according to the records even although we all know that business is no longer trading at all let alone from that address.
That leaves Adrian as a director and his accountant pal from what I can see in the public records.
Aināt Got No Money
The company has a capital of £100, so a typical Limited company.
Last information available gives me that there was about Ā£9000 in net worth and about Ā£9100 in liabilities which means, in effect, they donāt got no money.
So, the chances of them taking any legal action against anyone is pretty much zero as they can barely afford a free consult as far as I can tell.
John Cohen
However it also calls into question the mysterious John Cohen.
I mean, think about it, how can a company that has no money at all and, pretty much no standing afford to employ a high flying market executive from the likes of Indesit and/or Electrolux?
Then we start rummaging about to find out who this guy is (and, if heās sane after joining this party) but we completely fail to find a single shred of evidence that the guy even exists. Now, in our small incestious trade thatās bordering on a miraculous occurrence.
āFictionalā Scenario
Hereās what might have happenedā¦
FME was set up and promoted by Adrian and, it failed.
So, in a bid to reinvent the wheel the business gets a makeover and morphs into UKT. At this point in time Mr Parmley has had enough and exits stage left probably realising that he could have a better life without this nonsense going on.
Ade does a runner to Wakefield leaving Wales behind. Among other things I expect.
A few months later, UKT also seems to be on a downward spiral so he dreams up this new thing, NAC and concocts a story to try to get people to sign on, anyone.
NAC is not an actual company at all, itās just a namesake by the looks of it for show or, a bit of a throwback to the old Appliance Care Wales where it was originally dreamt up.
The rest I assume is history in the making.
Promotion?
But think this a bit more though.
How can a company with no cash afford to promote itself?
Google want paid or, the business has to rely completely on organic search results which, if you follow the advice from Ally, myself and others, you can knock them out the park on and, not have to pay a bean to get it. More, itās the gift that keeps on giving, for free. You donāt need this.
What would probably happen is that theyād take cash from whoever and use it to promote after the event.
In the meantime, how do they go about promoting this ācause, so far as I can tell, they canāt even afford to mailshot engineers and emailing each one is a very time consuming task, you have to find them first.
Ah, hereās an idea, why donāt we go on that UK Whitegoods site and offer the guys loads of work for free, theyāll sign up in droves⦠and, here we are.
Given that Adrian has or rather, had, no access to come on here and promote this āthingā he had to find another way to get the message out.
Enter, a couple of members posts whether by chance or not as it may have been a favour for a mate, pop up on UKW about this ānewā NAC thing only, it isnāt new at all, itās just a rehash with a new name. I really am completely disinterested in how it got on here BTW, itās irrelevant.
then, not a few days later but who shows up as a shiny new trade member, none other than Jamie PARRIE, not Jamie PARMLEY although, I will concede, it would be easy to get confused there. Who, happened to work for an electrical business just right about where Adrian once was, funny that, small world.
Now, I wonder, is it possible that these are the very same people⦠hmmm????
Looks in my opinion as if Mr Welke got a friend to sign up, get trade access then he started posting a load of drivel to try to bump the topic and get his business promoted.
That kinda backfired, no?
Then after that all went rapidly South up pops another persona, John Cohen. This mystery man who is supposedly working for a company that hasnāt got any money and, heās a marketing guy so why employ a marketing guy when you donāt have any money to spend on marketing.
If anyone can work that one out, good for you as youāre clearly smarter than I am.
But if youāre running a company with no money I guess itād be real nice if you could get a bunch of people to send you Ā£20 a referral. You just need to find people stupid enough to do that.
So Adrian, you can skweem and skweem and skweem till the cows come home, it will not alter the fact that a lot of what’s been posted in this thread by you or your fictional alter egos is in large part wholly untrue.
K.
December 10, 2013 at 3:32 pm #400792kwatt
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I forgot to add, David came up with a great idea.
Instead of doing this you should become an author, he suggested that your first title should be…
Fifty Shades Of Dodgy
You might want to look into that. š
K.
December 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm #400793DrDill
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Some one turn the lights out when they leave NAC/UKT/FME.
Actually that might not be needed as the electric company will turn it off.
December 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm #400794NationalAppCare
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Hi all,
Kwatt, you seem to yet again be on a ‘mission’ if you like to tarnish the name of my colleague Mr Welke.
I believe I earlier expressed the very reason for not engaging here with you or anyone any further due to the very nature of what could be seen as a vendetta.
It’s been reported to me that a few people have chosen to join the NAC Forum and one in particular has been a pleasure to liaise with regarding debate and question answering.
As for me Mr Watt, how I can be afforded is none of your concern so I wouldn’t waste any more time of your day trying to figure it out.
This thread has now become laughable and as a new entrant to this area of conversation, this very thread has shown how stupid and childish some people are.
Kind Regards,
A very amused,
John Cohen.
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December 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm #400795kwatt
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Reporting fact isn’t a mission, running a website that delivers news in various formats that’s sort of a thing I do.
And yet, you’re still here.
And, still no answers or any real substance other than self promotion.
And, if it’s so stupid and childish, as one of the architects of it, what does that say about yourself?
Please continue though, it’s doing wonders for the site traffic reading the drivel coming from NAC/UKT/FME.
K.
December 10, 2013 at 6:16 pm #400796lee8
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p2mx4
Anyboy watch or remember Mr Welke run in with the welsh consumer watchdog program X-Ray, a complaint about him charging £273 , he never did the repair, gave an excuse of the part being incorrect and only refunded after the program got involved, the his business failed a few weeks later.
Ā£273 for part & labour to an american refrigerator. Which part would cost that with labour ?
As for advice, here is some for free.
This is a closed forum disscussing a banned member.
Now l have stopped laughing.
Don’t waste money you don’t have.
lt is also prudent to not make threats to people until you are aware who they are, they may have bigger and sharper teeth than you.
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December 10, 2013 at 7:01 pm #400797DrDill
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Thanks lee, I never seen that X-ray programme, it’s a very interesting read. I wonder if he’s related to a man I use to work for who did similar scams, he use to be in a dressing gown till midday after having a swim in his private pool, and had a tan!
December 10, 2013 at 7:29 pm #400798EFS
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Time to give Matt Allwright a call. š
December 10, 2013 at 7:33 pm #400799Andy jones
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Bet they wish they never came on here now š
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDDecember 10, 2013 at 7:49 pm #400800lee8
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Private pool.
Probably an inflatable jucazzi and some fake tan.
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