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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
jamieparrie wrote: hello martin.have they got a forums?.
Well yes HERE but it’s members, like you, obviously aren’t aware of its existence.
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hello oooow yes i just looked in it and it says about nac and forums coming soon so gessing its something for future?.
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
Wouldn’t a client be better off going to say Knowhow. Paying £119.00 for callout, labour and parts. If the repair then exceeds that amount the client pays nothing and simple goes to Currys and buys a new product.
Your model makes the client pay both NAC and the repairer and probably gets nothing for their money.
Which means very little clients.
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Martin wrote:
Well yes HERE but it’s members, like you, obviously aren’t aware of its existence.
You go to the forum and only admin has written on each thread all on the 28 feb 2013, the busiest day.
Ade give up you’ve neither the talent, brains or originality to be anything other than a pizza delivery guy.
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If anyone’s still interested at this point, we’ve done a bit of digging beyond what’s been posted already just to see what the heck this is all about and, it is indeed a tangled little web of intrigue.
If you look at this website: http://www.normantondomestics.co.uk/
You will notice a lot of copied content from UK Tradebook/NAC or whatever, too much for it to be a coincidence, including some of the feedback which is, amazingly, identical to what you will find elsewhere. Now, you can look at that as abject stupidity or, fraudulent. Take your pick but, at the very best, a misrepresentation and that’s with a very kind view.
But, that website is registered to…
Nominet wrote:Domain name:
normantondomestics.co.ukRegistrant:
Normanton DomesticsRegistrant type:
UK IndividualRegistrant’s address:
69 Longacre
Bridgend
Bridgend
CF31 2DD
United KingdomRegistrar:
Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-reg [Tag = 123-REG]
URL: http://www.123-reg.co.ukRelevant dates:
Registered on: 27-Nov-2012
Expiry date: 27-Nov-2014
Last updated: 10-Apr-2013Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.Name servers:
ns.123-reg.co.uk
ns2.123-reg.co.ukI was shocked ( 😆 ) that would be none other than Mr Adrian Welke’s old address. Yet for a business based in Normanton, for details, see Google…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/preview#! … 768!4f13.1
If you have a look on Street View, you might see some simliarity to this…
Self promotion through social media, gotta love it.
Not so much when it comes back to bite you in the backside.
So, if any suppliers etc are still looking for you, they now know where to find you and what you’re probably driving about in as well. They also know what addresses to cross check to make sure you haven’t opened accounts by nefarious means, not that you’d ever do that eh?
I mean, surely someone of your stature and reputation would never falsify details to open an account would you? But it might be worth checking anyways, just in case.
But that domain has a very similar registration to UK Tradebook, as shown here:
WhoIs wrote:Domain Name: UKTRADEBOOK.COM
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.meshdigital.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domainbox.com
Updated Date: 2013-11-22T00:00:00Z
Creation Date: 2011-11-29T00:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-29T00:00:00Z
Registrar: WEBFUSION LIMITED
Registrar IANA ID: 1515
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@domainbox.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8779770099
Reseller: 123Reg/Webfusion
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Adrian Welke
Registrant Organization: Adrian Welke
Registrant Street: Unit 6 The Beeches Ind Est
Registrant City: Talbot Green
Registrant State/Province: RCT
Registrant Postal Code: CF72 9DY
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.1443230895
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: email@msn.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Adrian Welke
Admin Organization: Adrian Welke
Admin Street: Unit 6 The Beeches Ind Est
Admin City: Talbot Green
Admin State/Province: RCT
Admin Postal Code: CF72 9DY
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.1443230895
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: email@msn.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Webfusion Limited
Tech Organization: Webfusion Limited
Tech Street: 5 Roundwood Avenue
Tech City: Stockley Park
Tech State/Province: Uxbridge
Tech Postal Code: UB11 1FF
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.8712309525
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: email@123-reg.co.uk
Name Server: ns.123-reg.co.uk
Name Server: ns2.123-reg.co.uk
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2013-12-08T23:41:42Z <<<Once more, Mr Adrian Welke at your service. Once more, registered to a previous trading address in South Wales but, operated from an address in… well, we believe Normanton, but we can’t say for sure because, there is no published address for that “business”. There is no contact information on the website which is, just FYI, a breach of Company’s House policies and technically illegal.
I don’t know about anyone else but, I’m always a bit suspect when a “business” doesn’t seem to have an address but, there again, it could be South Wales, who knows.
Now, when you track the IP that has been used to post as Jim did what you do is you add 2 + 2 and get, four. Mainly because we’re mostly not accountants that can make it equal what we want or we’re just not plain good old fashioned liars.
So we have Mr supposedly-Jamie Parrie who supposedly lives in Penrath South Wales posting from a node located a couple hundred miles away in the Wakefield/Leeds area while protesting his innocence and that he isn’t Adrian Welke etc etc as well as the “real” Mr Welke in the very area that these posts are being made from. On top of which, he is currently advertising as a repairer in that area and, signing up to do work for others in the same area.
Then we have a new persona that erupts into the scene, this one the voice of reason with “credentials” to back up that they are an industry titan and know what they’re talking about. Posting from the same IP address (despite being travelling in other regions) and, funnily enough, the exact same geo-location as the jamie parrie account, a couple hundred miles distant if we were to believe what these “two” supposedly different people say.
Yet on digging about a bit, nobody knows this person. Including in the companies that he says he worked for. Very odd that.
Amidst all of this, the “real” (if there is a real one) jaimeparrie’s website goes dead as a doorstop displaying only a BT holding page. That would suggest someone didn’t pay the bill or, the company is no longer trading.
Yet at the same time, the very same devices (keep up, once’s in Wales they say and the other in Birmingham, Leeds or travelling on a train) are all being used by multiple accounts and, shocker, all pinging off the same access points.
I mean like, wow!
That’s a technical stunt that Google couldn’t pull off let alone some muppet that repairs washing machines.
And still, they insist on perpetrating this sham. I say “they” because I have a feeling it could be a bipolar or multiple personality disorder although I am not qualified to ascertain that in any professional capacity and that whoever it is probably isn’t aware of what they are doing. I think someone needs to get back on their meds ASAP.
But the big problem here is the inability to shut the hell up, knowing when to quit it and skulk off into the night. That was never a thing that a certain person ever knew how to do and, probably never will.
Have a nice day Adrian, everyone knows now just what’s going on from our side of things but, at a guess, you’ll say that this is all a pack of lies and that we’ve doctored the records or whatever, probably we shot JFK and faked the moon landing as well while we were about it.
Trouble for you is, fact are facts and I warned you fair and square that I’d had enough of your nonsense.
K.
Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
loool you seems to have qite a vendeta against him.looks bad fro you that you attack some one on here that cannot say anything because hes not a member here?.
as for me well thats pathetic to because ive ofered for you to ring me and even give lee8 my adress but you only want to keep it all on here so you cant be proved wrong.
anyway absolutly no point arguing with you because you have to aprove my comments and most of which dont ever apear here :rolls:
back to the nac forums martin like i said they only say who is nac ect ect ect and not open yet.even if were open based on this forums it would be quiet as noone will have anything to moan about lool[float=left:2lp5e4su]
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Adrian, please don’t try to twist this into me being the bad guy, I’m not the one telling lies and I don’t hold any vendetta against anyone.
The account “jamieparrie” is in use by different people. Fact, end of.
You’ve been caught. Fact.
You don’t like it that you’ve been caught. And, bluntly, you’ve evaded every single time it’s been pointed out to you because you cannot defend the indefensible.
Yet still, in the face of the mass of evidence proving this you persist in trying to maintain this charade.
The only reason that I’m even remotely interested is because of the threats levelled against myself and others by a certain person and, I do not want to see the guys led up the garden path by said person.
So it’s good for them to know that, should they choose to sign up to this, that they are signing onto a “business” that is founded on a bed of lies. I would think that mentality likely pervades the entire enterprise.
K.
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kwatt wrote:And still, they insist on perpetrating this sham. I say “they” because I have a feeling it could be a bipolar or multiple personality disorder although I am not qualified to ascertain that in any professional capacity and that whoever it is probably isn’t aware of what they are doing.
I think Ken that you’re perception is spot on here and without doubt based on Adrian’s reaction toward his earlier floundering response to his ‘findmyengineer’ scheme. The timeline reaction back then to his ‘project’ is exactly the same as today’s NAC rejection. That rejection reacts violently in the mind of someone suffering from bipolar disorder. So much so in fact that he openly ‘invents’ supporters to his scheme who continues, against all odds, to defend his master plan?
Jamieparrie the lunatic spark in Cardiff with 6 engineers that get 20-30 jobs a week was, even to the most open-minded individual, such an impossible boast. Now, thanks again to Ken’s scrutiny has found even he doesn’t exist and his web site is a total scam.
The guy needs to seek medical help. 🙁
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Martin you missed that jaime gets 20-30 calls without being an NAC registered business.
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lee8 wrote:Martin you missed that jaime gets 20-30 calls without being an NAC registered business.
Oh, yes I did Lee, thanks for that. :tup:
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I have rung a few numbers of various Assured Electrical businesses of Jaime, all apart from a mobile are out of use, there site also is still down, does not take several days to build a web page, even for a person who writes so poorly. I doubt their still at their offices, as there run on a monthly rolling rental.
Doing a quick google search for washing machine repairs in Cardiff does not show NAC or Jaime.
You’d think aide having lived here would have had at least one contact in a major city to do repairs for him.
Unless of course he owes some people. I have put word out on aides possible location.:D
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Martin wrote:Above was the opening line to your first post on here John. Your motives then were an attempt to explain the whole point of NAC. And as you’re the “head of marketing” there was no better opportunity than to post here on the UK’s premier white goods site
Hi Martin (and all),
As you can see, this thread and the small handful of participants are not really what I would call good candidates for open debate. This thread is clearly intended to throw out false and innapropriate accusations about one of the Management members and the rest is just about taking the light away from NAC and aiming it on to Mr Welke.
Mr Welke has a copy of all thread posts here and will no doubt be seeking legal advice to see if any laws have been breached within the way he is spoken about in these very forums whilst not being a member or able to reply and the comments made are inacurate and incorrect.
In the mean time, as you quite rigtly pointed out Martin, there is an NAC Forum if users would like to take up genuine adult debate there or just ask any questions. We will happily engage with any engineer in the NAC Forum as any reply we make will not be moderated, edited or deleted.
As Martin has already posted a link to the NAC Forum, we feel that by us posting this is not any form of advertising so this post should be allowed to air.
Please feel free to ask your questions to us directly by following the link below.
http://www.uktradetalk.com/viewtopic.ph … qbHTH8gGK0
Kind Regards,
John.
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Re: NAC (ADVERT THREAD: IGNORE IT)
And, completely unsurprisingly, you utterly fail to answer a single point raised or a single question asked specifically of you.
Get Mr Welke or whoever to attempt legal action if you want. That’s been threatened many a time and never happened as, I suspect, like all the other occasions it’s all bluster and show, no substance.
But it’s really hard to take legal action for libel when what’s published is the truth, as any solicitor will tell you.
All of which adds up to myself reading the conclusion that, in my opinion, you’re a bunch of crooks out to fleece the repairers.
K.
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Hi Kwatt,
You are asking the wrong people. You seem to not realise that neither myself nor anyone else can answer questions directed at Mr Welke as he is not an active participant in these forums. Even if he were, I suspect that given the level of aggression towards him from again, a small handful of people would not encourage any forthcoming with answers or objections.
That aside, ‘Moderating’, editing and deleting posts from those that you want answers from is not the right or fair way to achieve open debate as it leads to a very strict one way street and Admins / Moderators have the power to ‘lead’ a thread to wherever it wants to go. This is why I refuse to engage any further here with you or anyone else regarding National Appliance Care so you might as well terminate this account.
For ‘Genuine’ users that want to make ‘Genuine’ enquiries or ask questions about National Appliance Care, we have now provided another platform in which we will engage in open, fair debate.
Regards,
John Cohen.
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And once more, you completely fail to answer a single point made.
Some might call that evasive.
Some may even think that you have something to hide.
I’m sure you will be deluged with respondents to your adverts to work for what is, in my opinion a dodgy business model run by a dodgy business operated by a shady character.
I can just imagine how “genuine” the conversation will be given that you have completely failed to tell the truth thus far.
K.
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