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  • #266229
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    According to an edit lower down THIS PAGE the company was wound up 27.01.2010.

    As this is obviously a sarcastic wiki edit it may or may not be true. 😉

    Whoever posted that edit pinched one of my observations from earlier in this thread about the Emperors new clothes. :rolls:

    #266230
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    According to Companies House, Reason Innovate Ltd is indeed in liquidation.

    It’s a shame to see that happen to any business and I actually feel sorry for it as there was a few good ideas in there.

    It would be interesting to hear what happened and why it failed.

    K.

    #266231
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    It would also be interesting to know if a ‘real’ working model was ever produced, most of us would have loved to have had a look under the bonnet with genuine interest.

    It really is a shame that the whole project was ‘apparently’ carried out with smoke and mirrors. 😥

    #266232
    DaniBerry
    Participant

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    Nice one alfibengal…Im hearing ya!
    Kwatt, maybe reason are too busy working hard to deliver you a flawless machine. Rome wasnt built in a day.

    #266233
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    DaniBerry wrote:Nice one alfibengal…Im hearing ya!
    Kwatt, maybe reason are too busy working hard to deliver you a flawless machine. Rome wasnt built in a day.

    Err, Reason have gone bust..

    And to my knowledge no one has ever seen a working prototype, let alone a finished product. 😥

    #266234
    DaniBerry
    Participant

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    oh thats a shame, even a man can do the washing with a machine that operates with only one button!

    #266235
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    Just to finally wind this thread up as it were…..Did you guys ever see the original PATENT APPLICATION that is still currently pending in the USA? From it you can possibly figure out how it would have worked…maybe?:con:

    My eyes were drawn to the way the tub support mechanism operated! 🙂

    #266236
    italianwasher
    Participant

    Martin wrote:Just to finally wind this thread up as it were…..Did you guys ever see the original PATENT APPLICATION that is still currently pending in the USA? From it you can possibly figure out how it would have worked…maybe?:con:

    My eyes were drawn to the way the tub support mechanism operated! 🙂

    The Reason Washing Machine is very much alive and we got involved with it after your site discussed it. Thanks it is as they promised.
    The original patent is granted!

    #266237
    don
    Moderator

    italianwasher wrote:The Reason Washing Machine is very much alive and we got involved with it after your site discussed it. Thanks it is as they promised.
    The original patent is granted!


    I would be interested to know who the “we” is or is this just more “spin” to keep the topic alive?

    Don

    #266238
    italianwasher
    Participant

    don wrote:

    italianwasher wrote:
    The Reason Washing Machine is very much alive and we got involved with it after your site discussed it. Thanks it is as they promised.
    The original patent is granted!


    I would be interested to know who the “we” is or is this just more “spin” to keep the topic alive?

    Don

    Thiis site is a discussion site is it not. The contributors above have asked for more info and made incorrect assumptions.

    As far as I am aware Reason did not ask for or promote this thread. Reason have had publicity from the BBC, HTV, the Welsh Assembly Government and Universties etc, all of whom have tried the machine and whose articles are available online. I dont think UKWG forms part of their marketing strategy.

    ‘We’, (to clarify for you) are a supplier of a key part of the Reason machine. We were brought in when one of their major suppliers was taken over by another company and the supply of a unique part was cut and the rest is history.

    #266239
    Jumty
    Participant

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    Andrew Reason making a presentation about his new machine.

    http://www.dolectures.com/speakers/speakers-2009/andrew-reason

    #266240
    iadom
    Moderator

    italianwasher wrote:

    As far as I am aware Reason did not ask for or promote this thread. Reason have had publicity from the BBC, HTV, the Welsh Assembly Government and Universties etc, all of whom have tried the machine and whose articles are available online.

    I would be interested in seeing any links to these articles from people who have actually ‘tried’ this machine.

    #266241
    Martin
    Participant

    italianwasher wrote:This site is a discussion site is it not.

    Indeed so!:D

    italianwasher wrote:The contributors above have asked for more info and made incorrect assumptions.

    I for one hope the Reason dream is still alive and kicking and fully support British design and entrepreneurial skills.

    italianwasher wrote:As far as I am aware Reason did not ask for or promote this thread. Reason have had publicity from the BBC, HTV, the Welsh Assembly Government and Universties etc, all of whom have tried the machine and whose articles are available online.

    So I see HERE for example.

    italianwasher wrote:I dont think UKWG forms part of their marketing strategy.

    The overall mood here about the whole project has been, to say the least, sceptical, and furthermore in the true British style we’ve become so accustomed to in recent years, sarcasm toward innovation and innovators our greatest skill. Andrew Reason is one of many humans thus far at least ‘to be thrown to the lions’ as it were on this web site anyway.

    italianwasher wrote:‘We’, (to clarify for you) are a supplier of a key part of the Reason machine. We were brought in when one of their major suppliers was taken over by another company and the supply of a unique part was cut and the rest is history.

    Not sure about the last part of your statement there “supply of a unique part and the rest is history?” It’s the “history” I’m stuck on here, so could I ask you to explain what you meant by that? Maybe you meant that all the past is history the Reason is still alive, that the project is still moving forward…..maybe?:?

    #266242
    iadom
    Moderator

    italianwasher wrote: Reason have had publicity from the BBC, HTV, the Welsh Assembly Government and Universties etc, all of whom have tried the machine and whose articles are available online.

    Well I have looked again at most of the online info and it is all pre 2010, before Reason Innovate went into administration. Virtually all of it is based on two or three articles copied into other news items. There is no mention in any of them of the Welsh Assy Government, the BBC, HTV, Universities or even Uncle Tom Cobbley actually ‘trying’ the machines.

    #266243
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

    I said before I actually admire the fact that this was tried.

    The problem, apart from the fact that Reason was going up against global giants, retail giants and people that are often downright skeptical of anything that doesn’t have this week’s fancy widget on it, is that, in all honesty, it wasn’t that much of a departure from what we already have.

    You put laundry in it, it tumbles, heats, rinses and spins.

    The method of putting the stuff in it might have been a little different. There might have been a bit of engineering nonce behind it but, in the end, it just does or did, what every other machine does.

    Without actually testing it, who knows how well it performed or not. Who knows how well it was built and if it would stand up to some abuse… we just don’t know.

    Some ideas are great and fly, others don’t. This one, for now, seems to not.

    But one thing struck me… how was a disabled person in a wheelchair to use this machine?

    K.

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