The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine

[kwatt]

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All jokes aside, most people would buy a washing machine as a distress purchase as I am all too often reminded by people when stock is in short supply.

Why anyone would bid on a washer to get it in a few months time is beyond me.

Which leads to the next question, why only 500? If there was a production line banging these out that’s a low number.

Unless of course it’s hand built which, begs the next question, how much is it going to cost?

So many questions and, seemingly, no answers.

K.

(P.S. – You can get a similar set up from an automatic toploader, they’ve been around for donkey’s years only instead of a drawer arrangement you get a lid. ;))

[Martin]

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I am curious as to how Reason washing machines have overcome the forces of gravity and the constraints in order to overcome the damaging effects of centrifugal force? 😕

Just looking at the video shows a conventional cylindrical drum that purports to contain 10kg of washing. A large chunk has been carved out of the side of that cylinder in order to load the garments. Now, call me a cynic if you like, but I’m assuming the ‘drum’ rotates? Now if that is the case surely once it has rotated through 180 degrees then the load will fall out and the whole thing jam solid, wouldn’t it? 😯

[cockney steve]

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but I’m assuming the ‘drum’ rotates? Now if that is the case surely once it has rotated through 180 degrees then the load wil

If you read the “advertorial” dross, the drawer only comes out halfway

This limits the cantilever-loading which would tend to topple the machine forward….the drum probably has a “shutter” which is retained by the fixed-structure (cabinet)when the drawer is pulled out….conversely, closing the drawer would close the drum . Alternatively, the cabinet could well contain a complete drum, with a second one, telescoping within it, attached to the drawer.

that one would have the “loading gap” in it’s wall.
nothing new here.
look to the vending-machine industry for simple,cheap hoppers/agitators/feeders to dose detergent.

Nothing new here either.

Old marketing tenet….never underestimate the stupidity of the public.

I really had to laugh at the tosh about bending down to load the machine.

they really don’t think that Mrs punter is going to open the drawer, slam the laundry basket on the front edge and balance it whilst hauling the load over the lip and dumping it into the drum.?

Mebbe they’ve used the runners from an industrial parts -washer (glorified, heavy-duty dish-washer)

Anyway,I’m not for getting drawn into free publicity or product-development.

so, my prediction for “reason”…in the words of the inimitable,late-lamented, Nat “King” Cole…

[ “There may be trouble ahead”]

[Martin]

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cockney steve wrote:conversely, closing the drawer would close the drum . Alternatively, the cabinet could well contain a complete drum, with a second one, telescoping within it, attached to the drawer.

What?:con:

You’ve lost me there brother, can you put it another way?

I see the drum, I see the big hole in its side, so how do they shut that hole? What I don’t see is a sprung-loaded hatch type trap door that top loaders incorporate…how do they ‘plug the hole’??:twisted:

[iadom]

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The washing being taken out looks as dry and fluffy as when it was loaded, now that is impressive. :rolls: 😆

Jim.

[Martin]

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iadom wrote: now that is impressive. :rolls: 😆

Isn’t it ever? 😈

4 days ago NaughtyBoy last posted and every day since has been on-line to view the replies yet has never responded…….

…..now that’s not impressive, for someone who may have all the answers?.:rolls: 😆

[cockney steve]

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OK, Martin…..you have a drum the depth of the cabinet, front to rear(including mountings, drive etc…..now visualise a second drum with a gap down the side…. Think of it as a “C” shaped trough that has it’s end plate mounted to the drawer front…….pull out drawer, trough-drum comes with it…..close drawer trough telescopes into complete drum fixed to back of cab.

of course, it’s desirable to have the opening at the top when you pull the drawer out……..and you don’t actually need a full drum “hidden “in th cabinet, the bit that comes out with the drawer, has to have some sort of closure to retain the load when the drawer is closed.

trying another way to explain…..get 2 toilet-roll cores(appropriate?)
that will slide one within the other…..slike a lump out of the side of one tube, going from the end, to halfway down……when they’re telescoped together, you have a solid tube, when they’re pulled apart, the gap appears and gets larger as you pull them apart……glue a disc of cardboard to either end of your “telescope” and paint with silver paint….put a drawing-pin through the middle of each disc and you have your own blue peter side-opening washer-drum.

(plenty of other ways of achieving closure, bearings, drive and support, but I’m not going to continue debating a hypothetical design……when we hear that the professionals have seen a real, working machine, there may be a real reason to use bandwidth!

wander round the supermarket shelves, you’ll see lots of cardboard-drum type packaging with pull/twist opening/dispensing ideas….just scale them up 😆

Still nothing new and only us four saddo’s chewing this bone 😈 😆

[silverbroom]

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My wife has just come home and mentioned this machine was featured on BBC radio 2 this afternoon, seems like we may be hearing more about this machine, sound interesting tho.

silverbroom.

[iadom]

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Forum member Garn has just sent me this link.

The Reason Washing machine

Jim.

[cockney steve]

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there are a couple of factories going cheap, in Wales ,at the mo.

IIRC, both Bosch (automotive alternators?) and Hoover (washers) have spare factories.

casting aside all the hype, it’s just a bit of lateral thinking it still has to be tested by “jo public ” and her hubby “joe” 😛 also it has to overcome the scepticism of folk like me and be pitched at the right price-point.

For all his clever marketing of the bagless cleaner, James Dyson dropped a real brick with his washer. (though personally I think it was purely price that killed it. )

It would be nice to think that the UK could produce another world-beater, however, I predict that if it achieves any worthwhile market-penetration, he’ll follow Dyson’s lead and sub it all out to the far East.

[kwatt]

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cockney steve wrote:casting aside all the hype, it’s just a bit of lateral thinking it still has to be tested by “jo public ” and her hubby “joe” 😛 also it has to overcome the scepticism of folk like me and be pitched at the right price-point.

And therin lies the rub Steve.

Many people have a real issue trusting any name in major appliances that isn’t as old as Father Time for some reason. Add to that a new concept and an unproven design and you’ve got a real uphill struggle on your hands.

I really wished that there was a way that we could have had machines built in the UK but it fails on two fronts, the first is that you can’t find a factory to build them, you’d have to DIY a new factory and even if you sunk the millions into that you’d have to pay more than elsewhere for labour to build them.

Then you have to persuade people not to buy a £200 pile of rubbish that’s been knocked out a Chinese sweatshop and pay near five times that for a British machine that, in their eyes, just does the same thing. You see the comments on here all the time, people want outstanding build and reliability but they don’t want to pay the money that that costs. But no problem spending that on a Dyson vac, which is plastic and has fewer moving parts with less stress and use, or less even than a few tanks of diesel. It’s farcical really when you think about it that people expect that sort of machine to last for countless years.

But I digress.

I’m a bit bemused by this concept which, might be good, might be bad. As a field engineer I’ve got several issues with some of the features and I think that it may run into trouble on some fronts as some of the things there seem, to me, to be asking for trouble.

But more bemusing still is the idea of an auction, which is obviously closed and there’s absolutely no guide price whatsoever there. That strikes me as more than a little odd. But from the info there I’d expect that machine to be pitched about the £1000-1500 mark given the level of engineering, warranty etc., I could of course be totally wrong though.

Then there’s the warranty, nothing but broad strokes, no details and no note of an insurance backing on it either which, in the current climate of people going bust all over the place, I’d have thought was essential. There again, the problem there is that you’d struggle to get cover on a new concept product that has no track record.

But heh, best of luck to them perhaps they can succeed where Dyson and Titan failed, both of whom offered new concept products and, both of whom ended up in Asia.

K.

[iadom]

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Auction is supposed to start tomorrow, just tried to register for the auction but get a warning telling me that I must enable ‘referrer logging’

I don’t think so. :rolls:

[Martin]

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I think we’ve done enough Reason bashing for the time being don’t you think?

We British are a very inventive lot or at least were in years gone by. Now we’re turning into a nation of prolific sceptics and cynics ready at any given moment to pronounce toward anything new or those that are brave enough to at least try by stating “it’ll never work”…”they’ll never sell any”

First it was James Dyson (look how well his products have done) and now Andrew Reason has stuck his head above the parapet.

“Please don’t shoot until you can see the whites of his eyes………………..!” :rolls:

[iadom]

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As this topic is specifically about washing machines, just remind me where the Dyson washing machine is now. :rolls:

[Martin]

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iadom wrote:As this topic is specifically about washing machines, just remind me where the Dyson washing machine is now. :rolls:

The topic may be Jim but my last comment relates to the entrepreneurial spirit with which pioneers of new concepts and ideas by the likes of James Dyson. Such spirit has to succeed no more so than now in today’s uncertain financial climate. Kicking a bloke for trying is just one of many hurdles and hoops Andrew Reason with have to navigate through if he is to share the determination and success of James Dyson.

Yes, the Dyson washing machine is no more and I suspect Andrew has taken that certain knowledge on board with his concept machine. We shall see won’t we.

Here’s an idea….. 💡

Why not invite Andrew and his machine along to the Coventry meet? That should get some press attention I’m sure, both for Reason and UKW.

I see no reason why not. 8) 😉 😀

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