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Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Martin wrote:
alfiebengal wrote:
See my comments aboveWhat?:con:
Errr they’re there between your sentences……….says it all really 😕
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
alfiebengal wrote:
Errr they’re there between your sentences……….says it all really 😕
What it says is that Martins ability to use multiple quotes and answers on a forum is somewhat better than yours. 😉
Lets try and keep the debate civil. 8)
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Hi Alfie,
I think that a lot of the comments probably stem from the fact that some of the problems that reason is trying to cure are very old and pretty much already solved. There’s also some glaring errors that will lead to problems with the machine, without doubt.
Its the experience that we have that tells us this.
But, as I have said there are some nifty ideas in there as well.
My take on it is, it’s a washing machine with a slide out drum and… well not a lot else really that stands out.
You can accomplish that, if you really want, with a toploader for a whole lot less money I’d expect.
The guy is very keen though but, by his own admission, the machine is full of why’s, maybe’s and what if’s… so is my opinion and, I suspect others as well.
K.
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…and in addition to what my colleague’s iadom & kwatt have said in reply to you alfiebengal. I was hoping that your sudden and and enlightening input into this debate directing us to Andrew’s lecture would add weight to the debate? Sadly that seems not to be the case.
I would further add that this site is ever seeking civil and intelligent debate on all matters whitegoods. This format allows little in the way of one to one rapport between postees and in consequence leads easily to a greater misunderstanding between participants should ones point be misinterpreted? Therefore could I ask that perhaps you may give us the benefit of your particular point in this debate? Sadly for me at least I fail to recognise your point of view and would love to know where you are coming from here?
Over to you….. 🙂
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Despite what some people might think the vast majority of the forum trade members are not Luddites. Most of us avidly embrace new technology, when we see that it works. 😉
We are not manufacturers so we have no hidden agenda, if the Reason machine ever makes it from a very suspect video to full production then sooner or later some of our members will be repairing it so we have no real motive ( nearly said reason 😀 ) to see it fail.
We are however free to voice our opinions based on experience. 8)
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Can we please try to stick with simple understanding words please.
My pc asked me to install the chinese language pack when i clicked on this topic.thank you for compliance.
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Oh ye of little faith, foresight and understanding. No wonder the uk manufacturing ethic has died!
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based on shop feedback, if a 6-7kg toploader style washer was produced, but could be slid under a worktop it would be a winner for most of my customers…!!!
it would just have to be robust enough!!!
Re: The ‘Reason’ Washing Machine
Martin wrote:…and in addition to what my colleague’s iadom & kwatt have said in reply to you alfiebengal. I was hoping that your sudden and and enlightening input into this debate directing us to Andrew’s lecture would add weight to the debate? Sadly that seems not to be the case.
I would further add that this site is ever seeking civil and intelligent debate on all matters whitegoods. This format allows little in the way of one to one rapport between postees and in consequence leads easily to a greater misunderstanding between participants should ones point be misinterpreted? Therefore could I ask that perhaps you may give us the benefit of your particular point in this debate? Sadly for me at least I fail to recognise your point of view and would love to know where you are coming from here?
Over to you….. 🙂
Sorry for the delay but this is my office PC and I try to avoid it over the weekend.
The reason I landed on this site was that after viewing the You Tube video, not Reason’s but the Do Lectures video, I Googled him and amongst other things came up with this forum. The Do Lectures are given by a group of entrepreneurs in many diverse spheres to inspire other people to think outside of the box and think the impossible.
Perhaps you can understand why, when confronted by so much negative thought, I made my comments. I would also ask you guys to listen to him a bit more thoroughly and you’ll see that some of your comments don’t bear any relationship to what he said.
You might also like to look a bit further into it and you will find that he has already started delivering machines for testing in the field, a move, I’m sure you’ll agree, is eminently sensible.
He is also manufacturing the machines in the UK providing much needed jobs in a recession and a boast not many other white goods manufacturers can make!!
Also, I’d like to point out that I have absolutely no axe to grind and have absolutely no connection with the white goods industry. I just despair when someone who has obviously invested a great part of his life into a project gets so roundly condemned by a bunch of people who haven’t even bothered to look into the facts correctly and dismiss a project because, seemingly, then can’t see how it could work. After all I con’t understand how radio works but I accept that it does.
Keep smiling guys.
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alfiebengal wrote: After all I con’t understand how radio works but I accept that it does.
Likewise, but then I have actually seen and heard a radio working. 😉
We have not had an iota of visual evidence that this machine is a functioning entity. The Reason website still only has the same mock up video.
I don’t think pigs can fly but if I ever see one then I would be instantly converted. 😀
Can we assume that you will be placing an order for one of these machines then. ❓
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iadom wrote:
alfiebengal wrote:
After all I con’t understand how radio works but I accept that it does.Likewise, but then I have actually seen and heard a radio working. 😉
We have not had an iota of visual evidence that this machine is a functioning entity. The Reason website still only has the same mock up video.
I don’t think pigs can fly but if I ever see one then I would be instantly converted. 😀
Can we assume that you will be placing an order for one of these machines then. ❓
Much as I’d like to place an order my Dyson is still going strong and showing no signs of giving up the ghost……….Maybe a little sabotage is called for but it seems a shame to do it.
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An open invitation has been offered to Andrew Reason to bring one of his machines to the 6 monthly UK Whitegoods meetings held conveniently in the Midlands, so he may demonstrate it to us. So far at least that offer has not been taken up but nevertheless still stands. We are everything white goods and applaud what Andrew stands for and hopes to achieve with his revolutionary machine. Ever willing to assess, help and hopefully advise on what we can see and go from there.
Based on all what’s been said so far by Andrew and co and what’s been shown with his web site simulated graphics and photographs it certainly has our interest at this stage. He certainly talks the talk on You Tube enough to generate wild excitement within the industry. So far though little physical evidence has been made available for the trade to assimilate the product and after all these years from concept to design to production we still haven’t seen an end product?
That in a nutshell is the problem with the Reason Washing Machine.
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Hi Alfie,
I’ve not been negative at all, I just asked some of the questions that people ask and, was pointing out that I think there’s an error or two there. That’s all.
I November last year I asked…
kwatt wrote:Who underwrites the 10 year warranty, if anyone?
Who is servicing it?
A year later, still no answers to those as well as other questions.
I’m all for change and innovation, it’s great and I fully embrace it so long as it is worthwhile as an investment of my money and that I think it actually serves a purpose.
To date we’ve still to see a psychical product or any sort of independent testing or, any testing at all for that matter.
All of which is why I will say that, at this point in time, there is simply not enough known about the Reason washing machine to draw any sort of conclusion whatsoever.
I’m not being negative at all although I do appreciate it may look that way with a cursory look at this thread, but I would like answers.
K.
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Interesting read. Companies house indicates the company is under proposal to be struck off, a shame if so but a tough market & economy to launch in to.
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