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  • #142157
    westfielder
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Sorry – forgot to say they all came from Farnell

    here’s a link to the 1uF

    http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=1198302


    Nick

    #142158
    broddersbaldrick
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Hi Nick, can you give me a call
    ***********
    I don’t think those caps are metallised polypropylene?

    The type of cap is important, not sure if others have fitted the same?
    I fitted metallised polypropylene

    john

    #142159
    broddersbaldrick
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Oh, just read the spec, sorry.
    We need to establish if you have a power supply problem.
    We then need to establish if those caps are suitable in that application.

    #142160
    westfielder
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Nope – didn’t work with all the maplin caps, but I noticed that they’re all X2 suppression ones too. Ordered some like yours from RD – should be here tomorrow

    Thanks again for your help

    Nick

    #142161
    westfielder
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    Clicking has stopped!

    The banks stopped a £2 transaction on my debit card on Thursday Grrrrr – loadsamoney in the account.

    Very frustrated that the new capacitors would not arrive ’till this morning

    Thought over the weekend I would try out the theory of the the suppressing/non suppressing caps being the problem and put back some of the originals that measured OK on the meter but to no avail.


    The new non-suppressing capacitors arrived this morning and in anticipation I put them in before brekky – unfortunately 20 minutes later the clicking started as per usual. I was gutted!

    I only had 20 minutes before having to leave for work. So I whipped out C2 (The electrolytic) it measured 900UF not the spec 1000, I put in a new one (measuring 1200 but that was all I had).

    I also replaced the last 2 Triacs (Q1 and Q3). Put it back together, kissed SWMBO goodbye and went to work.

    So far there has been no clicking.

    Tomorrow I will list all the final components on the board and all the things I tried to get it working. I must have soldered and unsoldered C1 about 12 times. The tracks are starting to lift!

    Will report in 2 weeks if all still well.

    Thanks to broddersbaldrick for his guidance and encouragement to persevere and to all who have contributed on this forum. I hope my ramblings may help someone one day – do post if so!

    Nick

    #142162
    broddersbaldrick
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Good morning Nick, I’m thrilled you got your whirlpool working again and without replacing a whole circuit board! Thank you for your kind message too.
    Last night i repaired a second Whirlpool Fridge Freezer for a lovely couple in Oldham; the unit had the ‘ice dispenser’ The LED Displays had been flashing and chattering for a week, the fridge had warmed too.
    As per my fridge, 4 of the 5 caps behind the dispenser had failed.
    Two large Polypropylene Capacitors later and the job was done.
    I didn’t charge any money but, he rewarded me with silver for saving a small fortune. 🙂
    Thank you to all and UK WhiteGoods for this forum.
    N.B The boards can be purchased here on this site and take a few minutes to fit if you don’t want to repair them.

    #142163
    burberry
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Hi,
    I’ve got a whirlpool american style fridge freezer. Lately, i’ve noticed that although the fridge temperature is set to 2 degrees, food has been going off before it’s best before date!!

    Can someone help identify what the problem might be?! We’ve had the fridge freezer for 4 years and I can’t find the manual.

    #142164
    broddersbaldrick
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Hi Burberry, as Nick explained to me; it’s highly likely your fridge needs a good defrost.
    There is a heat exchanger type unit in the freezer compartment, air passes through this into the fridge.
    If the auto defrost is failing, it ices up and no air can pass through it into the fridge.
    There is also a fan that blows the ‘chilled’ air through.
    More often then not, it’s a control unit fault, ukwhitegoods sell these modules if you’re unable to repair it.
    Start reading this forum from page one and you’ll quickly come up to speed.
    Where in the country are you?
    Regards bb

    #142165
    burberry
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Hi bb,

    Thanks for your reply. I’ll try your advice. Only thing is I have sooo much stuff in my freezer that I don’t know where i’m going to put it all!!

    By the way I’m in the lancashire area.

    Regards

    Burberry

    #142166
    nibbley-uk
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    After a bit of searching i found this site so here is my first post.I have been reading this post on the whirlpool american f/f as i have the same problems as most on here but not only does mine have the knocking noise but also the water pipe that feeds the drinking water has frozen.
    I have inserted a smaller tube into the pipe and it is blocked behind the front console, i have removed the front facia then tried to remove the front panel but it feels glued by the foam sticking to it and dont want to break it by forcing it off.
    Has anyone else had this problem and know of a cure ??
    I will look back over this long post and try and find the bits need to stop the knocking as i dont want to come one day to a puddle on the floor where it has packed up.
    The model number is S20DRSB33
    858615815010 110421013187
    Cheers all

    #142167
    broddersbaldrick
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Hi, you shouldn’t have to go that far, it seems a simple defrost will cure the frozen pipe, then look at why it didn’t defrost automatically.
    Most likely the rear module.
    john

    #142168
    nibbley-uk
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    broddersbaldrick wrote:Hi, you shouldn’t have to go that far, it seems a simple defrost will cure the frozen pipe, then look at why it didn’t defrost automatically.
    Most likely the rear module.
    john

    I pushed the frozen water out of the other end of the pipe where it connects at the bottom of the door so i know it was free of ice but it just freezes back up.
    I presume cold is getting to the pipe somewhere behind the front panel but without taking the the front off i cant see where the failure in insulation is.
    After seeing the posts on part numbers to cure the clicking has there been a final list of part numbers where the new parts will go staight in as i see the ones from RS are too big and the ones from Farnells might be wrong ??

    #142169
    broddersbaldrick
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    Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

    Hi, i have read various pages stating some that are a good fit but I couldn’t find them. The important thing is the type and value. Metallized Polypropylene at 250 – 275 volts AC!! I used the RS 190-8551 and that range, they ARE the correct type!! but dimensions not ideal.
    Regards
    john

    #142170
    Parko
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    Accessing Front Panel PCB?

    Hi,
    I really have read through the thread, but cannot find advice on gaining access to the front panel pcb.
    There are no srews behind the drip tray in the front door as one person suggests, nor anything that resembles access without the fear of snapping the plastic.
    All advice greatfully rec’d
    Ian

    PS.. tried to add picture !! But it’s a Whirlpool S20B TSB21_A/G 8586-150-15002 (11-0408-025820)

    #142171
    nibbley-uk
    Participant

    Re: Accessing Front Panel PCB?

    Parko wrote:Hi,
    I really have read through the thread, but cannot find advice on gaining access to the front panel pcb.
    There are no srews behind the drip tray in the front door as one person suggests, nor anything that resembles access without the fear of snapping the plastic.
    All advice greatfully rec’d
    Ian

    PS.. tried to add picture !! But it’s a Whirlpool S20B TSB21_A/G 8586-150-15002 (11-0408-025820)

    The 2 screws on mine are at the bottom of the drip tray, take the tray out and they should be easily visable.
    I still do not know how to get the rest of the facia off though to see the water pipe behind, has anyone had to remove the whole facia and how did you get it off as the expandidng foam seems to be sticking to this panel ? is it easier to remove the whole cover from the inside ???

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