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March 24, 2008 at 9:04 pm #246651
T_i_m
ParticipantRe: Zanussi ZWF1431W bearing replacement?
madrat wrote:What about the heater on these sealed tubs. Are they removable
I would very much hope they were! If it’s isn’t, this machine, filled with petrol is going through the Zanussi showroom window! 😉
All the best ..T i m
March 24, 2008 at 9:06 pm #246652helo_75
Participantlol, you want to know about poor welded tubs, take a look at that new hotpoint/indesit thing
going down like flies
easy to change, not cheap
March 24, 2008 at 9:22 pm #246653T_i_m
ParticipantRe: Zanussi ZWF1431W bearing replacement?
madrat wrote:So you could use that hole to remove something stuck in the drum. Not ideal but posible. Dosnt solve the bearing problems though
No … would that be like the gynecologist that wallpapered his hall through the letterbox … ?
I’ll get me coat ….
T i m
March 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm #246654kwatt
KeymasterRe: Zanussi ZWF1431W bearing replacement?
T_i_m wrote:Ok, given the choice *I* would rather have a cheaper purchase price, the std 1 year warranty (on the grounds that most things that are going to go wrong will do so in the fist few months) and cheap spares after that.
Some people are like you Tim but most just want something that works, keeps working and, should it go wrong, is fixed ASAP preferably at no cost. I can understand that TBH.
T_i_m wrote:And that (just to be sure) includes supplying the parts at said low prices to the end user, outside the waranty period (inside they would be supplied and fitted FOC)?
Oh yes for sure. We can’t understand the need to charge so much for parts as, while there is a cost in keeping them, shipping them and all that malarky it sure ain’t accounting for many of the prices we see daily.
T_i_m wrote:Any thoughts of going to direct drive in the near future K?
No, unproven IMO and the only people using it would appear to have stability issues (despite the propaganda) and they seem to suffer from bearing failures. Even leaving that all aside it’s not cheap to fix when it breaks from my experience.
I like proven technology and engineering that, well, just works and keeps doing so. Which is why I love the Swedish machines because when you ask the Swedes, “is it good” you’ll get an answer like, “too early to tell yet, it’s only been in the field for seven years”. They are deadly serious but cracking a joke at the same time as making a point. 😉
T_i_m wrote:And no sealed drums for ISE of course!
No. Unless there was absolutely no possible alternative we would never use them. The idea is to make the machines more serviceable and to last longer, not the reverse.
HTH
K.
March 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm #246655madrat
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😆
I managed to get a bra wire out of our Creda through the heater hole. took a while, a torch a garden cain and a long graby thing. took a while though
March 24, 2008 at 9:26 pm #246656T_i_m
Participanthelo_75 wrote:lol, you want to know about poor welded tubs, take a look at that new hotpoint/indesit thing
going down like flies
easy to change, not cheap
Ahem, as you mentioned it … what is the best procedure to remove the tub assembly from one of these machines please?
Is it though the top or front?
I dare say I could work it out but shortcuts are always welcomed. 😉
All the best …
T i m
March 24, 2008 at 9:31 pm #246657kwatt
KeymasterOut the back if it’s a split cabinet. 😉
K.
March 24, 2008 at 9:38 pm #246658T_i_m
ParticipantRe: Zanussi ZWF1431W bearing replacement?
Some people are like you Tim but most just want something that works, keeps working and, should it go wrong, is fixed ASAP preferably at no cost. I can understand that TBH.
Oh, me too. I wouldn’t suggest for one moment I was yer normal or sterotypical punter! 😉
On the kit car I had ‘parts only’ insurance. Few would repair my car like I would. 😉
T_i_m wrote:And that (just to be sure) includes supplying the parts at said low prices to the end user, outside the waranty period (inside they would be supplied and fitted FOC)?
Oh yes for sure. We can’t understand the need to charge so much for parts as, while there is a cost in keeping them, shipping them and all that malarky it sure ain’t accounting for many of the prices we see daily.
Thanks for (especially) clarifying the fist point K. So, it’s out of warranty and I need a part .. I guess I can’t just go into my local whitegoods shop (unless they are ISE dealers etc)?
T_i_m wrote:Any thoughts of going to direct drive in the near future K?
No, unproven IMO and the only people using it would appear to have stability issues (despite the propaganda) and they seem to suffer from bearing failures. Even leaving that all aside it’s not cheap to fix when it breaks from my experience.
Ok thanks.
I like proven technology and engineering that, well, just works and keeps doing so. Which is why I love the Swedish machines because when you ask the Swedes, “is it good” you’ll get an answer like, “too early to tell yet, it’s only been in the field for seven years”. They are deadly serious but cracking a joke at the same time as making a point. 😉
Nice one. It’s for all the same reasons I had the Sierra for 23 years, built the kitcar on the MkII Escort (not something more exotic) and have the R100RT motorbike now. Nothing like being stranded because the parts are unobtainable or have to come from halfway across the world. 🙁
T_i_m wrote:And no sealed drums for ISE of course!
No. Unless there was absolutely no possible alternative we would never use them. The idea is to make the machines more serviceable and to last longer, not the reverse.
Brilliant ..
All the best and thanks again …
T i m
March 24, 2008 at 9:44 pm #246659kwatt
KeymasterRe: Zanussi ZWF1431W bearing replacement?
T_i_m wrote:Thanks for (especially) clarifying the fist point K. So, it’s out of warranty and I need a part .. I guess I can’t just go into my local whitegoods shop (unless they are ISE dealers etc)?
We try to keep the components used as standardised as we can. This serves several ends…
- Keeps the prices low
Means the engineers will often have them in stock
Means the engineers get what we call a “first fix”, i.e. no revisits with parts
Means that most common spares are available off the shelf as they are as standardised as we can get them
Means that even if the local dealer doesn’t have a part in stock they can get most within 24-48 hoursHelps us, helps people that own the machines so everyone’s happy.
K.
March 24, 2008 at 10:01 pm #246660T_i_m
Participantkwatt wrote:Out the back if it’s a split cabinet. 😉
K.
I don’t think it is K. The sides and rear are one piece, the top is open and it looks like the front might come off?
All the best ..
T i m
March 24, 2008 at 10:04 pm #246661T_i_m
ParticipantRe: Zanussi ZWF1431W bearing replacement?
kwatt wrote:
T_i_m wrote:
Thanks for (especially) clarifying the fist point K. So, it’s out of warranty and I need a part .. I guess I can’t just go into my local whitegoods shop (unless they are ISE dealers etc)?We try to keep the components used as standardised as we can. This serves several ends…
- Keeps the prices low
Means the engineers will often have them in stock
Means the engineers get what we call a “first fix”, i.e. no revisits with parts
Means that most common spares are available off the shelf as they are as standardised as we can get them
Means that even if the local dealer doesn’t have a part in stock they can get most within 24-48 hoursHelps us, helps people that own the machines so everyone’s happy.
K.
Erm, ok, but how do *I* get hold of ISE spares? Do I go and get them from my local engineer?
All the best ..
T i m
March 24, 2008 at 10:09 pm #246662kwatt
KeymasterYep or they will be listed here in the online store as soon as required.
K.
March 24, 2008 at 10:24 pm #246663T_i_m
Participantkwatt wrote:Yep or they will be listed here in the online store as soon as required.
K.
“as soon as required”?
Confused ..
All the best.
T i m
March 24, 2008 at 10:37 pm #246664kwatt
KeymasterNot really, no machines have as yet fallen outside their warranty. 😉
K.
March 24, 2008 at 10:48 pm #246665T_i_m
Participantkwatt wrote:Not really, no machines have as yet fallen outside their warranty. 😉
K.
Ah, gotcha (and I was saying I was confused) 😉
All the best ..
T i m
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