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Re: Miele Prestige Plus 6 problem
To me it sounds that the machine is finishing the programme early, maybe because of your water pressure is high. If theres a lot of water pressure the machine will be filling up quickly. Other than that i have no other suggestions
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Working for a kitchen design company, yes (miele kitchens of course, no cheap rubbish involved!), and im going back to do the other half of the course this September.
cockney steve wrote:Adam, I’d respectfully suggest that you further your education a little and learn not to misuse the word “insolent”
Insolence is defined in the OED as” being offensively contemptuous or insulting.”
Methinks maybe “patronising” was the word you were looking for…but neither applies to yourself, anyway!
How can a mature and wise adult possibly be insolent to an ill-informed, callow youth?
Agreed, Mr. T….this is great entertainment and should be kept in the public domain.
Im not sure callow would be a good word either, I am actually mature for my age.
For further entertainment, could we have a thread on politics please? Because you aint seen anything, unless i start ranting on about that! 😉 I think I get it from my grandad, who is out of hospital now which is good news. :tup:Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Penguin45 wrote:Enough, gents – lets keep it civilised.
Adam, you bring a lot of this on your own head through your intransigence. Helo, you’re rising to the bait.
Back on topic please.
Penguin45.
Sorry Penguin, but I have enough on my plate without being disrespected.
helo_75 wrote:so the answers no, basically
go back to drawing things on yer pc adam, and leave the advice to people who have actually taken the top off a machine.
yes miele are good, but, the point in question isnt about longevity or quality, but the fact that long term, parts can and should be widely available to the trade and general public at large at a reasonable price.. and that in its own way is wrong
creating a machine that is, invariably repairable only by their own engineers isnt ethical, nor is it fair
i repair things adam, i dont pretend to be an expert in kitchen fitting because i saw my dad put a worktop on once… have you ( or anyone else) noticed i hardly ever advise on dishwashers?
because i hate them i repair them when i have to.. but i dont consider myself an expert
thats why i dont generally comment on the ise, ive never seen one, or were even aware they existed until i joined this site
HOWEVER the guys here are fully aware of them,and swear by them.. and thats not because theyve read which, or theyre in the hilton, its because, ultimately they can provide a substatial service to the customer, something that seems to have been lost by some of the larger companies that care more for profit than customers.
ok, so they make money out of it, but they are traders, thats why they do it!
Now adam, stop chatting bubbles, if your confused, read ‘which’ – time and time again, its been pointed out that you know very little, and have sparked many a healthy debate over your magazine quoting, and little knowledge fuelled by what you read in the press
the core of guys on here are genuine, honest traders, some with 25 years+ experience, they do this for no financial gain whatsoever, and their knowledge,is, in many cases second to none, ive learned a hell of a lot from these guys, and im sure the guys will say the same for me
what have they learned from you ?
i rest my case
I’m not sure if you remember Helo, but in another thread, you asked me why I wasnt able to get a job in Comet (thankfully I work somewhere much better). I think I know why. I do understand what you are saying, but you don’t need to put it in such an insolent and disrespectful way like how you have. So is that how you got into Comet then? Speaking in a insolent and rude way, obviously it does help. I hate to wonder if you actually speak to your customers like that. If I was a customer listening to that, I would of walked out the shop straightaway!
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
hotpnt wrote:we will answer that when you first answer helo’s question to you….
Not exactly repaired anything myself, but i’ve helped on many occassions
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Aah, so that explains why you can find Miele professional machines installed in the Hilton, the Kremlin, surgeries and even the Vatican?
http://www.miele-professional.co.uk/gb/ … l/4697.htm
And if Miele is good enough for the Hilton, its good enough for me.Right, so could someone also explain this, because I’m confused. Not that I like to brag but you may all be aware that Miele have won the best domestic appliance brand in the UK, twice in a row now, heres the press release:
‘Miele’s score was unmatched, with a total of 22 Best Buys from ten of the categories its products were tested in. The brand was Best on Test in seven categories including dishwashers, freezers, fridge-freezers, washing machines, washer-dryers, tumble dryers, and vacuum cleaners.‘
So, can someone clever enough explain how that came to light? Was it just a fluke, or are the Which? techinicans and the general public who voted correct?
Because the general public can’t be wrong obviously neither can the testers at Which?.Re: W3922 vs ISE10
Penguin45 wrote:Just so long as the Hornsby doesn’t turn up for a gloat……… :
Hehe, I won’t gloat, honest. The Swedes really are great, look at Volvo and IKEA (urmm Swedish meatballs!)
Good choice Matt. As Kwatt says, both the Miele and Asko machines are great, both of which would be on my hitlist, rather than any of the other crap on the market, at the moment we have a Hotpoint WMA35, (only temporary) and it seems okay at the moment, but only time will actually tell whether it lasts until the completion of the kitchen extension, then we’re practically buggered exuse my French. 😉 Also, is it just me, or does Hotpoint’s new range look slightly Zanussi/Electrolux esque?
But back to the point, the Miele will not need replacing, not for 2 decades at least. Dealing with Miele kitchens, everything Miele do has impeccable design, made from the best components and materials physically available, built like a Rolls Royce and as indestructable as a tank and tested to the extremes.
Well done! :tup:
kwatt wrote:With only a five year warranty.
And it only loses the induction motor, delay start and all the rest? I guess it’s the same as going to buy a Mercedes or BMW then, they spank you up on the extras. 😉
K.
lol I know, thats if you can actually get to get the car from BMW, we went through 3 salespeople just to get ours 😉 😆
it was the price that made me look!!
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
£799 is a little tad steep isn’t it?
http://www.appliance-world.co.uk/MIELE_ … ogle=1&r=4just a little bit of a step down from the W3922, not too different in spec, just doesnt have the brushless motor, power LED, delay start or the weight/detergent sensor, other than that it has all the other programmes and features, plus being a Which? Best Buy model and look at that saving!
should of been £878.58 now down to £725.95 including free delivery & connection, I’d call that a great deal!Re: W3922 vs ISE10
I see a big comparison there, obivously the Asko’s and ISE’s are not on par with Miele quality after all (and after all of the spouting that goes on), because that obviously looks like a silver plastic drum rib in the top picture, errm as opposed to stainless steel. So much for being just as good eh? 😕
as opposed to this, http://www.washerhelp.co.uk/reviews/pic … b_drum.jpg
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
The W3922 was indeed the machine we were about to buy until we decided on an integrated model, Miele of course. As the short programme times go, and a supposedly ‘revolutionary’ door seal, I would want a programme that does the job properly rather than rush, and as with the door seal, why exactly is it that machines use the rubber seal? Because it’s a proven design to work, I would rather have the door seal and be in the security of it actually doing the job it should, rather than a ‘gimmick’.
As I work for a Miele dealer (I’ll repeat myself for the thousanth time), I do in fact know the in’s and outs of Miele, they do do very good training (aimed at Kwatt especially). My boss told me that she would not buy any other cheap s**t on the market (her words not mine), but I agree. Also, in another unbiased opinion, I asked our local retailer in York (Blackwell & Denton) and they indeed told me ‘in our time, we have never seen anything that comes close to a Miele, Miele machines are the best available on the market’. In fact, my aunt was about to get one, but she told me the one she saw in Currys had a blue door and was gutted when I told her that that blue was indeed plastic film protecting the porthole. She ended up with the Zanussi, which flooded the utility room, so the current one is a replacement. Her friend has a Miele, and she told me that she swears by it, no prizes for the next machine she’ll be getting when the Zanussi fails.And by the way Kwatt, please don’t talk to me in such an insolent way as you did in that PM, I also prefer being talked to in the open, and blow me, the times I’ve recommended this site, and this is the thanks I get?. And is that what you think I’m doing? Miele propaganda? Then I think you ought to look at yourself, and just see how much you are pushing your ‘ISE’. I am not causing Miele propaganda at all, just the facts thanks very much.
Which is why, IncredibleMrT, is Miele have been awarded ‘best domestic appliance brand’ 2 years running, that should speak volumes and put your mind at rest, which is also the reason why the guys behind the ISE are being so insulting and insolent, as their machine hasn’t won any awards, and supposedly the reason, that I am causing ‘Miele propoganda’ and they know it. I’m not Hitler or Mr Mugabe you know. 😉
I do understand Kwatt, that all machines do breakdown, but Miele machines aren’t designed to have ‘built in obselence’ which is why they have a low failure rate, as well of them making their own drive systems and controls that is how they can build the machines to last an average of 20 years. Don’t believe me?, this video reveals all:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 4&hl=en-GB
also look here at their other videos, especially the bottom two about durability:
http://www.buyersandsellersonline.co.uk … ashing.htmI would go with the Miele, without a second thought, and that isn’t so called propaganda or advertsising, that is the truth and my opinion.
Re: W3922 vs ISE10
IncredibleMrT wrote:Wow, a pretty comprehensive reply. Where was you when I was choosing a girlfriend! Could have saved me some bad choices 😉
I’ve ordered the Miele – got it from Dixons for £848 with delivery and installation included. I work in IT for an electrical retailer and our staff price never even came close!
Have I made the right choice?? This is gonna trouble me for a while 😕 That said, it has a 10year warranty so i’ll try and forget about it until that has expired.
Thanks
Matt.Indeed, you certainly wont regret the choice. I remember, reading that Miele invented the first fully automatic back in 1956, so you’re definitely in safe hands. Miele are also twice award winners for best domestic appliance brand and since they aren’t designed to break down in the first place, it will serve you very well. 😉
The Miele Troll.
Re: new kitchen, new appliances..
Arh, but you see, Miele appliances are not designed to break down, surely the 20 year design life should tell you that? As, i have said before the electronics and drives are made by Miele, that is why they can offer long guarantees on their components and machines.
Yes thanks, i do actually work for a kitchen dealer in north yorkshire, so i do have some knowledge. 😉
