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December 7, 2009 at 11:37 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142404
broddersbaldrick
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Hi Ronan,
To be fair to Whirlpool, they have used a manufacture in Spain and Italy to produce the boards I guess for the European market.
It’s ISPRACONTROLS who were at fault.
They make units for many other manufactures too including Service…
Yes in the early days they were guilty of fitting cheap capacitors but, there were not many alternatives and all the manufactures appliances suffered.
Not just Fridges but, Oven and Washing Machines to name but two.As times have changed, so have the board designs though some still remain cheap and cheerful.
The manufacturing process of capacitors has also changed in a huge way with material choice and construction; since 2005 the board manufactures now use better quality components all round and should last a good 5 years.
Hotpoint boards are manufactured by someone else and they still suffer cap problems on some models.
Manufactures have started using solid state chips to run the power supplies but, these chips can fail in 2 or 3 years and cause far for damage then a capacitor that’s gone open circuit.
Caps are cheap and easy to change.
Chips can be more reliable but, when they fail, the board has to be replaced; unless I’m the owner, in which case I go to long lengths to get it repaired. (Ordering a chip from China) for a Panasonic microwave.
Swings and roundabouts I guess. 🙂December 4, 2009 at 10:58 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142403broddersbaldrick
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Hi Billy,
you need a refrigeration engineer.
bb
December 2, 2009 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142401broddersbaldrick
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Hi Billy,
If your compressor is still getting warm / hot and the evaporator has no ice on it, your compressor is shot or the system is out of gas due to a leak. 🙁
regards
bb
November 27, 2009 at 9:46 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142398broddersbaldrick
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Hi Cpett, just sent a pm, I’ll send some pics when i have your e-mail
bb
November 26, 2009 at 5:13 pm in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142396broddersbaldrick
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Hi Cpett,
Are you able to bridge out the ‘standy’ relay to establish if that’s your lighting problem?
Once the light fault is sorted, we can suss if your board is correct for your unit.
bb
November 26, 2009 at 11:00 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142394broddersbaldrick
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Hi Cpett,
Exactly how long has the new rear module been in your unit and when did the icing up start?
With all power disconnected! You could test the ‘standby’ relay if you have a meter or, simply bridge it out since the relay is only there to turn off your fridge freezer; this negates the need to get to the mains plug just a few feet away.
Assuming the board did work once, the problem could simply be a faulty compressor relay not switching off fully.
I’ve had this on boards just 9 months old.
Do you still have your original board?
Maybe you could repair it or, if you’re not confident, send it for repair.Regards
bb
November 26, 2009 at 9:33 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142392broddersbaldrick
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Hi Cpett,
No light in the fridge and freezer is a faulty ‘Standby’ relay (if we can assume the board is correct)
Have you sorted the problem yet?
regards bb
November 22, 2009 at 11:40 pm in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142382broddersbaldrick
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Hi Justin,
yes that’s right.
The front caps failing cause the pizzo crystal to ‘click’ (like a relay) and the L.E.Ds to flash.
bb
November 22, 2009 at 2:34 pm in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142380broddersbaldrick
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Hi Justin,
The buzzer (pizzo crystal) is the warning alarm for when the freezer is warmer then minus 12 degrees.
You will spend more time trying to remove it that then fixing the actual fault.
Get a couple of caps or just one big 2.2uf and the job’s done.
Regards
bb
November 22, 2009 at 12:12 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142378broddersbaldrick
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Hi Justin,
In normal operation it does nothing.Put some tape or blue tac over the front of the buzzer to quieten it.
Regards bb 🙂
November 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142376broddersbaldrick
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Hi Justin,
Welcome to the world of Whirlpools and their chattering bits. 😀
The chattering on the front module is not actually a relay; it’s a pizzo buzzer that clicks.
I wouldn’t advise on removing any components unless necessary because, the front pcb is ‘through plated’ i.e tracks on both sides.
This means, additional heat is required to remove components then usually required which usually destroys the component being removed.
Just get some caps and fix it.
Hope this helps
bbNovember 13, 2009 at 7:22 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142373broddersbaldrick
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Hi Arthur,
‘CF’ means ‘control fault’ / ‘communication fault’ which usually means the front module processor is unable to communicate correctly with the rear processor.
Confirmation of this can be done by trying to dispense some cold water or, put the fridge on ‘stand-by’
Both of these functions are controlled by the rear module via the communication line from the front.
Since these functions do not work on your unit, I believe the software of your new rear module is not compatible with the front or, your front module has a fault in it’s communication line.
Hope this helps.
bb
November 9, 2009 at 11:29 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142370broddersbaldrick
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Hi,
Triac Q6 maybe faulty.
It’s the next place to look.
hth
bbNovember 4, 2009 at 1:09 pm in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142368broddersbaldrick
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Hi Billy,
Right, all the electrics and electronics are working.
You need to establish if the evaporator is icing up.
Unfortunately, you need to empty the freezer, remove a few shelf brackets and remove the cover from the rear wall.
With the compressor running, ice should form on the condenser.
Let me know
Regards
broddersNovember 4, 2009 at 10:21 am in reply to: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help! #142366broddersbaldrick
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Hi Billy,
So I have established you have the correct board.
If the fan is running, the compressor should be running.
If the compressor is running and you have a freezer alarm, your system may be out of gas or the compressor may be shot.
Or, you may have a simple defrost ‘heater’ fault
Does the compressor sound like it’s on?
It should be warm or even hot to touch.
There are two pipes on the right side of the compressor; the thin one should be warm / hot.
The larger one should be cooler.
We need to establish if the system is freezing the evaporator as it should do.
If the compressor is not running, report back.
Hope this helps -
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