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Re: Hoover VHD 9143/Triac fault

Hi BG, new to this part of the site; have you got an open circuit between the gate and A1 terminal?

bb

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

daddykool wrote:Hi Guys!
Just like to say a great THANKS!!! for all the efforts put in on here to help us humble fellows.
Ordered the repair kit on tuesday and it arrived this morning ,looks the biz and good instructions.
Only question is ,do capacitors have to be installed a certain way round ie: are they directional?
Cheers Ash

Hi Ash, fit them any way you like 🙂

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Thanks Paddy for the vote of confidence 😀

Yes I do and yes it is

😆

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Rikmak,

You may consider replacing the capacitors on the front and rear modules. They are known to cause problems and it’s a good start.
C1, C5, C6, C7 & C8 on the rear
C1, C2, C14 & C15 on the front.
C5 on the front always seems to be ok
Read the last few pages of this forum and you’ll be up to speed.
Hope this helps
Brodders

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Rikmak,
So i think you have the Stainless & Black model with ice maker.
Does the water ice up?
If your fridge is ‘over cooling’ you wouldn’t have any water either because the cooling takes part in the lower rear section of your fridge.
Is this the case?
How often does it play up?
What have you set the fridge temp to?
You could try raising it up towards 6 to see if that cures it.

Considering all the info on this forum deals with faulty electronics and failures in many modes, I would start looking at the repair previously described or purchase new modules from right here on ukwhitegoods; that’s if you’re unable to get the circuit boards looked at or repair them yourself.
Hope this helps
Regards
bb

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Raceboy,
I could pop down if you covered the fuel cost 🙂 test and replace the caps if they’re found to be faulty.
I’m just south of Barnsley
brodders

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Raceboy, don’t give up til the fat lady sings lol
Try the cap replacement first on both boards and if all fails, you can purchase new parts right here 😀
Where in the country are you?
Regards
Brodders

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Mark,

Yes I agree that it can take a while for faulty fridge owners to find the answer they’re looking for.
Yes a kit could be put together and a set of comprehensive instructions but, what components go in the kit?
RS quote very low power dissipation on their units; it’s this ‘dissipation’ usually absorbed in the form of heat that causes the cap to fail.
One fits well and one doesn’t
It’s a quandary to say the least.
I have no idea or simple solution and at a loss as to know which way to turn.
Kindest regards
john

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Tripitaka wrote:

Zaf wrote:

Mark

Was this easy to do? I am a complete novice as far soldering goes or do these things just plug in like lego. I have the same model as you.
Thanks
Zaf

@Zaf – Yes, it was easy enough to do but then although I am far from an expert, I am comfortable using a soldering iron and desoldering pump. If in doubt, just take the board to a local TV/Electronics repair shop and have them do the job for you. I’m sure you’ll find one locally to you and if you talk to them in advance then they should be able to do it while you wait – it’s a 10 min job and they shouldn’t really be charging more than a tenner or so.

@broddersbaldrick – John, understand what you are saying but we need to be careful here. Just because you can’t find specs does not imply they are inferior components and there is an undertone to your recent postings that infers some sour grapes or resistance to using Bitsbox. I’m sure that isn’t the case and that you are just being helpful. As an example, the case where a user bought the 8 caps suggests that they were from Bitsbox or the same make/type and that isn’t the case to my knowledge. I’ll make clear that I have no connection with Bitsbox other than a one-time satisfied user or their product and service.

To me, ease of purchase and fitting is more important than having a product that will last 22.5 years. I won’t have the fridge in 5+ years probably; certainly not in 10. I’m sure that time will tell whether they are of a satisfactory standard but if they aren’t, well, thats a whole £4.45 inc p&p down the drain. I think I can stand that. Until they fail though, we have to assume that they are just as suitable as the RS ones – more so if you consider the size and fitting issues with the RS product and also the minimum buy numbers, account requirement if you don’t live close to an RS trade counter etc.

I agree with you strongly that readers here need the info to make an informed decision but lets keep it neutral. I’m sure that both have their pros and cons and there is enough info up here now for people to make that choice.

With regard to the front board caps though – I didn’t need to touch mine but then I didn’t have the flashing lights issue either.

Mark.
Hi Mark,
Forgive my disparaging tone; I have removed ‘biased’ comments written in the heat of the moment.
‘Bitbox’ service is outstanding; the minute I read your comments, I ordered some. They arrived the next morning 9am sharp!
I was impressed with the length of the legs and thought ‘what an easy fit’
Yes it’s so easy ordering from Bitsbox and about 75{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} cheaper on the carriage charge too.
RS don’t have a minimum order quantity on the correct components, that’s Farnell and yes you have the account info to consume even more time.
I paid just over £20 for 2 sets of caps from RS including VAT and Postage and less then £5 for one set from Bitsbox. (One quarter of the price)

I have been asked by people in Ireland, France and Bulgaria for help and not about to send replacements that do not a specified life expectancy.
I wouldn’t fit them myself so wouldn’t send them to other people.
Obviously the caps being removed from these relatively new Whirlpool’s haven’t a known life expectancy either and certainly not weapons grade.
.
If one’s going to the trouble of repairing something, surely one wants a permanent fix?
The RS caps aren’t actually too difficult to fit; but why trade the life of your whirlpool for a quick fix?
This quick fix doesn’t work on the Front L.E.D Display so where do we source those components?
We could order from China and get the original but we know they don’t last.
To use an analogy
I buy genuine brake pads for my car knowing the cheaper pattern parts will wear sooner and probably squeal.
I’m an electronics engineer and have worked in Nuclear Power Stations, I’ve worked at Bovington Army testing ground and BAE Weapon Systems, Fiat Research (Italy) have also e-mailed me in the past when I had a solution for their CNG vehicles.

I simply wanted to avoid people being in the same boat in another 2 or 3 years time

The guy with the flickering lights? he wrote to me yesterday morning.

Thank you Mark, kindest regards john

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Wow, the caps seem too good to be true and what a very prompt service from Bitsbox too.
Maybe they have the life span of the faulty caps you’re taking out?
The Caps for your Whirlpool aren’t in a ‘suppression’ application and so don’t require the X or Y classification.
I can only comment on the fact that :- RS Components give comprehensive specifications AND an IMPRESSIVE 200000 hour life expectancy!!
That’s about 22.8 years!
One can fit the easiest replacement to one’s Fridge Freezer but why save some pennies and a little effort for a £1000+ Whirlpool.
The choice is obviously yours but what works for one, may not work for others.
i.e. Nick fitted Farnell ‘Polyester’ which worked for some people, it didn’t work for him.
People are reading these pages and need to make an ‘informed decision’ as to what to buy and where from.

Just for the record for those in doubt, these caps nor the RS caps fit onto the faulty ‘Front Panel’ LED display without ‘little effort’
Infact, they do not at all.
Thank you and regards
john

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Tripitaka wrote:Confirm that these caps worked for me perfectly and best of all – they fit perfectly.

Given how easy it is to order from Bitsbox and they ship overnight (ordered yesterday, delivered this morning) I can’t see why anyone would need to go through RS or others; no minimum buy, no size issues and no account needed. No affiliation – just a VERY happy punter.

I ordered:

4 x CC019 (220nF)
3 x X20U1 (0.1uF)
1 x X21U0 (1.0uF)

Total cost inc shipping – £4.45

No chatter from the water dispenser and my icemaker works perfectly. Many thanks to all on this forum who contributed to a solution. I am extremely grateful.

Mark.
The .22uf from Bitsbox seem to be too good to be true, small and super long legs; will they stand the test of time?
bb

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

wildthing wrote:Hi All,
Thanks to Broddersbaldrick it now appears that I have a working, non-flashing, non-clicking, Whirlpool fridge freezer.
With his help, expertise and endless patience with regard to the correct capacitors and part numbers, which are obviously a crucial aspect of repairing the fault, we have a success. Not only was able to keep me right with regards to parts but was also kind enough to talk me through the process and give his time to keeping me right.
No credit at all can be given to the sales staff at my local Maplins who would be well advised to seek Broddersbaldrick’s advice in the future (maybe you could offer them your services in an advisory role).
Can’t thank you enough saved me a fortune and more grey hair.
Any time you are passing Aberdeen drop in for a cold beer from the fridge!!
Chris

Wow! Thank you Chris for your kind comments, you’re welcome! I was very pleased we got your Whirlpool working. Any problems in the future, please contact me.
P.S I’ll pop in for a coffee or maybe ‘ice tea’ with ice from your trusty Whirlpool next time I’m in Aberdeen.
Kindest regards
Broddersbaldrick (john-broderick@hotmail.com

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

It’s the caps in the front module 🙂
Easy fix
broddersbaldrick

Nemoes wrote:Hi,

I seem to have the same problem as quite a few people on this forum with my S20D FSS10 Fridge Freezer. Following a thunderstorm about 6 weeks ago which tripped the circuit breaker in the house the control panel in the fridge now flickers continually. In the last couple of weeks the freezer alarm has been going off with the display showing two dashes (–) as the freezer starts to defrosts. Turning the fridge to standby for a few minutes and then back on seems to cure the problem for a short while and then it starts again.

I’ve defrosted the freezer thoroughly as suggested in this forum but it hasn’t made any difference. I’ve had both pcb’s out to visually inspect for any fried components but can’t see anything obvious. When I turn the freezer back on I can hear a relay click on and the compressor start and so far the fridge is working fine.

Comparing the symptoms of my freezer with what others have posted here I think the problem must lie with the electronics. Probably the rear board?

Having read westfielder’s posts I am tempted to try replacing the capacitors on the rear board. (I have a little electronics knowledge and a half decent soldering iron). Is this the most likely cause of the problem?

Any help would be much appreciated!

Neil.

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi Neil, did you sort your problem yet?
There are caps on your front board too but so little room for the new current style.
One can buy the ‘correct type’ from RS and stick them to the rear of the front module. Mine has been working for months together with one i fixed in Oldham and a nice guy (Chris) in Aberdeen.
Give me a shout as per my details on page 22

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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!

Hi, i have read various pages stating some that are a good fit but I couldn’t find them. The important thing is the type and value. Metallized Polypropylene at 250 – 275 volts AC!! I used the RS 190-8551 and that range, they ARE the correct type!! but dimensions not ideal.
Regards
john

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