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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi Billy,
Where did you purchase the rear module?
There are various levels of software and, the rear module must be the same as the front.
Is it correct?Your fridge freezer may have a fault not associated with the rear module.
Does the fan next to the compressor run?
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi
from left to rightRelay 2 = Ice Maker
Relay 4 = Defrost
Relay 1 = Standby.Hope this helps 🙂
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Ok, today I received the front and rear fridge module that had worked erratically before the replacement of various capacitors.
I can confirm – fitting the incorrect type of capacitor will kill your modules, if not now then later.
A dead rear module will cause the front ice maker module relay to click too.
Fortunately the above modules are in good hands lol 🙂
Kwatt has put a very handy kit together with instructions for the rear module.
I fully endorse this kit and point out; it includes an additional capacitor ‘C2’ for installation on boards manufactured with the ‘white’ capacitors. Today I have established it will also replace the 10 volt on later boards.
Some of you have asked about the Fridge and Freezer temperature sensors especially when the motorised baffle seems to be stuck open or shut.
For confirmation
The Freezer temp sensor will measure approximately 23’000 ohms (23k)at -20° degrees.
The Fridge temp sensor will measure approximately 6’000 ohms at 4° degrees
These measurements can only be tested with the sensors unplugged from the rear module and the fridge freezer UNPLUGGED from the mains (electricity) supply.
Hope this helps.Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi Silver7
In all probability, the components on your rear module have failed.
Depending on the age of your unit, it will either be the usual capacitor failure or a relay or both.
Hope this helpsRe: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Thank you Shaun, you’re welcome. 🙂
Did you change the caps on the front module?
brodders
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Good morning Shaun and Graphite,
Whilst certain fascist governing bodies are content with controlling the country we live in and won’t be happy until we become commies and have no freedom at all; in the privacy of my own home and un-bound by rules and regulations in the workplace; I’m happy to report your fridge freezer will run with the front panel removed.
However!
I would emphasise the importance of safe working practice and in reality, the front board modification only takes a short while. (an hour tops)
For this reason, there is no real justification for having the unit connected to any supply whist the front panel is repaired.
I believe the freezers will sustain temperatures within safe limits for at least 6 hours (possibly more) without the need to power the unit up
Thank you and be safe 🙂Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi Richardcowey,
That’s excellent news and I’m sure it will last for many more years.
I like the ‘chewing milk’ bit.
Unless I’m mistaken, you never answered my question. I believe you already have the later board with all the blue caps in?
Although I’ve not heard of any ‘blue cap’ failure yet, the relay still has a tough job to do and the contacts had probably become burnt and worn.Keep up the good work 🙂
Regards
broddersRe: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi rkbwap
I’m hoping Kwatt can help with your requirements; I’m not really up on too many model numbers.Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi Richardcowey,
It does sound like your fridge is working for the moment.
Have you now changed your compressor relay?
I think Graphite or someone will be able to help with the time it takes to defrost.
The system is not actually that intelligent; I believe it just defrosts after a preset time.
Fingers crossedRe: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi Kwatt,
I did actually go on to say I don’t endorse working with live equipment.
I would have left it there but then you wrote it was illegal.
It’s simply not and never has been and never will be.
You quoted it as being illegal which is absurd and I certainly wouldn’t let that go.
If it was, nothing would get fixed because; yes most components do need to be tested in the circuit when running. Forgetting all the sophisticated microprocessors on these freezers etc etc, just the simple PTC as I mentioned earlier can’t be fully tested with the power off.
These caps are a known suspect so yes can be replaced without power on the unit.
But what happens when it’s not the caps and, maybe a suspect compressor or related component.
Ok hands up, maybe I was nonchalant when saying he can unplug it with it switched on but, in my defence, I clearly stated the plugs have 240 volts and, subsequent replies state that the terminals are insulated which I knew.
The comment could have been removed or edited if I’d been asked.
But No, the whole issue has been blown out of proportion due to one snide comment.
All the people who have ever injured themselves or even killed themselves working on appliances and similar items became blasé. That’s a fact or they’d still be here!
The engineer back in the 80’s for one!
If he had taken precautions he would still be here, no??
Proper precautions were not taken. Period !!!!
Pilots are competent and trained until they crash an air plane.
Yes you could write all day about the dangers of 240 volts; the HSE would stop every one from doing anything if they had their way.
Quoting the HSE doesn’t stop competent people from killing themselves and neither will it stop joe public having a go whether it’s here on this forum or not.
And most of your quotes are recommendations for the work place and not for people at home trying to fix an appliance, and they are not the law.
The cost of a module compared to a life is a pretty weak argument because no one would disagree. It just looks good in writing.
I work on low voltage and high voltage equipment and have done for over twenty years.
I treat 240 volts with the respect it deserves, that’s why I’m still here.
I figured the user who asked the question may want to test it and shed some light on its function.
He did after all have the unit partially stripped down without any advice from this forum and it was turned on. See the picture for yourself.
What gets my goat is the people who lurk in the background with nothing constructive to say, just waiting to pounce with the slightest slip-up and think their clever.
As I said, I would have retracted it or amended it but I’ll leave it to you.
All he has done is demoralise me and maybe others.
Regards bbRe: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Thank you K for proving me right.
i notice the very first letter states what I mentioned earlier.(a) it is unreasonable for the equipment to be dead;
All I’m saying is your statement was not true and neither was Zanussi!!!Whirlpool state in the manual to take large quantities of ice direct from the bucket.
Tell the child that he has permission to do that, as he tears skin from his fingers with the frozen water in his pores stuck to the ice.We can only do so much and common sense does prevail
And I’m sad that this forum has digressed to this point.
As for an £80 call out or spending £200 on a PCB; I don’t have it and many thousands of people can’t afford that sort of money either. Probably millions!
This last hour you have a new member quoted £180 and the unit is still not fixed so now relying on your forum for help.Sadly the people who are qualified and competent and even employed by theses manufactures are the very people who least understand how they truly work.
And daddycool is spot-on; one simple reminder on safety would have saved this argument.
Thank you
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
And before certain back benchers start looking it up to prove me wrong, you won’t because I have 17th edition ….tooooo and still know what I’m talking about.
who’s ya daddy 😆Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Thank you Kwatt for your reply.
Zanussi have got it wrong!
If one looks at current legislation from the HSE, one can work on a live piece of equipment if it cannot be tested dead.
I know there are many different fields and fortunately 240 volts is only regarded as low voltage!
Good job these appliances aren’t high.
