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Martin wrote:

DrDill wrote:
The main change i would like to see would be the joining criteria, every member to be visited, test equipment evaluated, previous customers contacted to gauge customer satisfaction, insurances inspected waste liscences mandatory so old parts can be recycled not go to landfill

Are the black uniform and jackboots approach eh?

DrDill wrote:but should that change in the future then i would join.

Recruitment Inspector DrDill in his full length black leather coat, dark glasses and trilby coming knocking on your shop door sometime soon…… 😯

Yes Martin i am up for doing it, i would do it for nothing as long as i was a member of the WTA. Happy to help.

[DrDill]

Re: OFT DEGS Review

Just wondering if there is any members or non WTA members who have read the report got any thoughts about it and its thorough contents.

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Re: DrDill’s Latest Bashing Thread

Alex. I dont mean changes to personell as such except to say i believe that the council members or advisers ton should not have any conflict of interests.
The main change i would like to see would be the joining criteria, every member to be visited, test equipment evaluated, previous customers contacted to gauge customer satisfaction, insurances inspected waste liscences mandatory so old parts can be recycled not go to landfill are just the start as far as i am concerned.
I realise that not many agree with these suggestions as of costs etc but its my opinion and you asked, that is why will not join yet, but should that change in the future then i would join.
Some may see me as part of the problem and i accept that, but i do know we always operate to as high a standard as we can, which is more than the proposed COP.

[DrDill]

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bazza500 wrote:Having read this thread, and the others that DrDill has posted in, I would like to make my point.

DrDill has said “I like what the WTA are trying to do but I am not willing to join at the moment” or words along that line.

Correct

Now, there are people in this world who are pro-active and people who
are re-active.

proactive adjective – definition from Cambridge Dictionary Online: taking action by causing change and not only reacting to change
when it happens.

re·ac·tive [ ree áktiv ]. adjective. Definition: 1. reacting: tending to react to events and situations rather than initiating or instigating them

I would say that i am a bit of both,

My opinion is that the current members are pro-active in that they are willing to join an association and pay their subscription to make the trade better, more organised and more recognised by government bodies and the general public.

To back that point up you would have to find out how many of the members actually attend meetings, and how many actually put their points forward to the OFT report. I would guess that many members merely joined so that they could get the Amica work. Also it would be fair to say that some members have no interest in what happens with this trade, it takes all sorts.

DrDill, you strike me as re-active. A person who will sit on the by-line and wait until all the hard work is done and when the benefits start rolling in you will want to jump on the band wagon and reap what benefits you can.

You are sort of correct, but lets get the facts, this world is full of the small minority who work tirelessly for change in all sorts of areas, and when change happens the majority always jump on the bandwagon, thats life and that will never change. Therefoer there is more reactive people than pro active always has been, so i am no different to most of the others on here. But, lets consider for a minute that my “rantings” can actually open debate and the pro active consider the points made, it all shapes change, but then again debates often do.

If you want the trade to be better in the way you desire, why not join the WTA now and have an input into the direction it goes?

I dont believe that being a member is the only way to improve this trade, and until certain things change i will not join. I dont believe that all the members of the WTA have as much input as you think, some dont want to bother, but that is why you have an elected council to take the WTA forward, they are the ones that do all the graft and expence and i congratulate them.

[DrDill]

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kwatt wrote:

kwatt wrote:
Tell you what, since you’re a RETRA member, can you get the to send me a copy of their response?

I didnt know that they had sent a response, i havnt recieved any corrospondence from them since i signed up, and i only did that so i could get the Amica work. I will see if i can get a copy and email it to you if you want.

kwatt wrote:Remember all i asked was to see what was sent. 🙁

Why?

As the WTA asked for responces from non members as well as members, i assumed that the non members that took the time to submit a responce would recieve a copy of the report, Lawrence has explained why that wont happen yet and i have accepted it.

kwatt wrote:Who forced you to go?

Who forced you to comment?
I wasnt forced to comment, i just exercised my right to do so on open invitation, as i have said previously i am all for the WTA, but i wont become a member until i decide its right for me.

kwatt wrote:So, what you’re saying is that it’s okay for you to ask questions and you expect answers and, it’s okay for you to try to assert your own opinion…

…but it’s not okay for anyone to challenge that?

I am not saying that at all, i believe its okay for all of us to ask questions and expect answers and also for all of us to challange them, i welcome the debate and for people to disagree with me, i accept that.

It’s not okay for anyone to question your argument?

Of course its okay for anyone to question my argument, i welcome it.

But at the same time you expect answers on the questions that you ask of others?

I accept that some will respond and some wont, thats okay.

And, you expect to be shown respect for this behaviour, as in your position and points being given any respect or credence?

I dont seek respect or credence, not my motive.

Or is it that you just want to sling mud at whoever?

It isnt my intention to appear to sling mud, i just ask questions to seek answers.

And, as you didn’t notice I had already changed the thread title.

It must have change in between my postings! Thank you for changing that.K.

Anything else feel free to ask me.

But to point out again, i am not against the WTA, i guess it may seem that i am but i can assure you i am not. The WTA is a move in the right direction as far as i am concerned, but certain things i would like to see and they have been discussed in other threads.

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nigegt wrote:I’ve been reading this thread and all i can say is DrDill please just give one long reply to the many questions posted or just drop the bone, Then i can see your point for myself. Your initial question i think has been more than answered so what are you after now? Or are you just intent on just having the last word?

Regards

Nige
if you read the thread you can also read that i have acknowledged lawrence’s reply and thanked him for it!

[DrDill]

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What bloody questions KEN!
Quote me them and i will answer them and explain myself.

Again, i am not bashing the WTA so please change your thread title.

[DrDill]

Re: DrDill’s Latest WTA Bashing Thread

Ken, that is not what i think or say at all and you know it,!

Also this is not a WTA bashing thread at all and i would like you to remove that reference, this is your opinion and its wrong.
I have said i will answer my critics, what more do you want.?

[DrDill]

Re: WTA OFT Degs report

iadom wrote:This takes me back to the very first UKWG’s meeting I ever attended. 🙂

A few of us were discussing certain forum members postings and one person in particular who just happens to be a Burnley FC supporter came up with the most apt description of a ‘certain’ type of person. 😉

Alf called them ‘ keyboard terrorists’ , I think we have another in our midst. :rolls:

Definition of a terrorist:-

a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities

Is this what you think i am, really? The irony is that i am me, single, on my own, you and the other posters use plurals! Now read the definition again and then all of you look in the mirror.

And just to be certain, i have not taken offence and i am being humourous but hey thats my humour.

[DrDill]

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Ken you say i dont answer many of your questions of me and i skip stuff i dont like and respond only to ones that i choose, sorry thats not my intention but it is my choice as to what i respond too?
So heres the deal, start a new thread and ask me any questions you like and i will try to answer them as honestly as i can, and then all the others can do the same, i am happy to accept the challange.

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rolf wrote:DrDill wrote . What the f##k are you piping up for Martin.
Just one of your colourful comments. Its your remarks like this Dr Dill that quite frankly make you come across as being aggresive , argumentative in fact childish.
The scary thing is you dont even realise that your doing it.

OFF TOPIC

Hi Rolf, you took the time to put your input on this, when you have some more time could you list all my other colourful comments, as far as i am aware there is only one and that is when i used the “d#ckh##d” word, which if you read through that particular thread it was a tongue in cheek responce to washdoctor using the word first. Thankyou

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washdoctor wrote:I’m going to jump in here and ask DrDill to call me when you have 5 mins.

DrDill… You have my mobile number, instead of typing stuff that can be mis-interpreted or mis-read etc, ring me, ask me why you can’t see the OFT Report and I’ll give you an honest answer. Simples!

I personally hate seeing threads like this. It’s just pointless. DrDill, the WTA are trying to improve things for OUR trade, END OF. We are NOT a ‘Cartel’, we invited WTA members to comment or give their opinions to the OFT, and I decided to open that invite up to the general trade, as we’re all the same, regardless of TA membership.

We ALL want / need Tech info from manufacturers to keep trading and expand our businesses, we’re in the same boat DrDill, like it or lump it.

I’d appreciate a call when you have 5, so we can actually talk, rather than keep getting misunderstood.

Ade.

I have no need to ring you aidrian, you may hate seeing threads like this but it was your Chairman that started the thread and i simply asked why i couldnt see it, Lawrence has responded and i have accepted his reply and i thank him for the time in responding. There has been no misunderstanding on my part, so there was no need for you to jump in, also you have my telephone number too. As far as i am concerned the thread topic has been concluded and thats the end of it, simples.

I will now reply to the other posts that mostly are not in relation to the thread topic.

[DrDill]

Re: no beep beep

might have more to do with your vehicles electrics not being compatible, does your vehicle tell you when a bulb has failed? if so the system wont have enough power to work the BEEP BEEP part of the bulb.

[DrDill]

Re: WTA OFT Degs report

Martin wrote:

DrDill wrote:
Dont understand what you want, all i asked was if i could see the report that was sent to the OFT

I tell you what DrDill, you are really starting to get on everyone’s nerves. Your aggressive responses toward all threads well noted, your points so very often lost in open debate. You are the quintessential troublemaker and no mistake. 👿

Pot calling the Kettle here Martin, reread your posts on both the VAT threads, aggressive? And as for getting on everyones nerves, really? Troublemaker, i dont think so – your the one that has something to say on more threads than me!

Now I can see you will argue your case/point here as ever you do but to be honest you have lost it as far as many here on UKW are concerned.

????
Can I plead with you in this instant just to BACK OFF, let the guys at WTA do their stirling work in getting this thing sorted. After all you will no doubt be an eventual beneficiary toward all this in the fullness of time.

I have nothing against the WTA, its heading in the right direction, but i wont hand over my hard earned until i am satisfied its the right decision for my business. Until then i will have my opinion thanks.
It’s a WTA thing, you are not a WTA member. And neither am I as it so happens (if that’s of any interest to you?) but I like most congratulate the endless amount of trouble, effort and expense the WTA guys are going through right now on our behalf.

I have said that i also congratulate the WTA boys(if thats of any interest to you?)
Open debate is as always welcomed and your comments are duly noted. In this instant it’s time you back off and shut it, do us all a favour…OK?

Now thats agressive, or is this where you want me to say “Or else what big mouth”

[DrDill]

Re: WTA OFT Degs report

Thank you Lawrence for your responce, i understand, i just thought that as you canvassed and recieved input from non members that the report would on the same token be made available to them.

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