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Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
iadom wrote::con:
Who altered it then.
Thanks everyone for making me look like a complete prawn!!!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆
Its a good job I know Quickwash or I would have been dead!! 😯
I’m not a spoilsport really! 😀
All good fun!! 😀
Best regards to everyone,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
I have been told I am a spoilsport for changing it back again!
Only one thing to do then………
I THINK QUICKWASH IS DELICIOUS………….
Oliver. 😳
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
quickwash wrote:Told you 😀
There was an old lady who swallowed a fly……………
Come on Oliver….. :rolls: 😉
Dont know why i’m in such a happy mood with a badly infected gum where i had that damn tooth extracted, probably delirious 😆 :rolls:
Bestest of wishes to all
quickwash :plug:
Hi Quickie,
Yup, delerious does describe you pretty well!! 😆 😈
I have probably just signed my death warrant, but its all good fun. 😀
Best Regards,
Oliver.
WHO ALTERED THAT……………..Mr Banks perchance, you trying to get me in trouble!! 😆 You’ll have to do better than that to catch me out…………DELICIOUS indeed! 😆
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
ALL CREDIT TO ISE AND ESPECIALLY KEN WATT. THIS ISSUE IS NOW RESOLVED.
The way ahead is with less detergent, there will be no impact on cleaning or the machine. Asko are still testing, but it looks cured for good. Our water is so soft we need about a seventh of the detergent on a normally soiled load.
So thank you so very much Ken. You have a lot to be proud off. ISE do have the super customer service that is advertised take it from me!!
Best Regards,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
quickwash wrote:Because the old lady swallowed it! 😆
Sorry, couldnt resist 😀
Best wishes and hope the Affresh helps,
quickwash :plug:
I’ll get you in a minute………. 😆
pearce_jj wrote:Out of interest, why would the spider need to be replaced?
It was bought second hand, it was in a real mess low temps and liquids rotted it away.
Oliver.
pearce_jj wrote:Interesting. I just read kwatt’s post,
You can solve the problems through the use of technology, like turbidity sensors but they aren’t the most reliable of things and push the price up
The Bosch I referred to earlier is a hydrosensor model so perhaps that’s why it seems to cope with basically whatever detergent I do (or don’t) put in it. But only ever noticed exess foaming when it was washing bamboo nappies.
My old Bosch was simple, if it sudslocked (which it never did) there was an extra rinse on the timer that it skipped past, this would be activated so it did 5 rinses instead of 4.
My Bosch was super, its a shame they discontinued drum spiders. Bad news is your machine has the same spider………. 😥
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
Hi pearce_jj,
This is one of the many reasons my Mum bought a commercial machine, modern domestic machines are not as good as machines of old.
Affresh works very well, you won’t go wrong with it.
Best regards,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
Hi, 😀
I am intregued to know why this machine is so overly sensitive to detergent though. I have had many washers over many years, but in my life I have never ever come accross such a touchy machine in my life. Since I have had it I have had to watch over it, mess about with detergent doses and generally keep an eye on it. This thing is supposed to be automatic, not requiring so much molly-coddling. :rolls:
I like the saving in detergent, don’t get me wrong, but ISE could have made a proper point of it in the instruction manual. All it says and I quote
“Try less detergent, and increase only if you are not satisfied with the results”. When it says this you would think about half the recommended amount not a seventh. The reason this is hard to believe and I ignored it in the manual was we are always been told to use the correct amount recommended by the detergent manufactureres as there can be problems with the machine as pearce_jj has clearly shown. Trust me I know all the ins and outs of detergents, through my job. 😀If I had known what I know now I probably wouldn’t have bought the machine, for the past month I have had a fair amount of trouble with oversoaping, something my Bosch never did. But now there is light at the end of the tunnel so I am very pleased about that, I can tell you!! 🙂
Although, a few people on here said my Mum should have bought one instead of her commercial Miele, well I had better tell you this, if she had bought one she wouldn’t have put up with the problems I am having and no doubt after a few washes would have been calling ISE to take it away and get her money back. I have come very close to doing this myself, because I like my Mum expect things to perform as they are told to and when you spend so much money you expect trouble free washing. Oversoaping can easily be sorted with how a machine is programmed, spin profiles and water levels etc. Its easy.
I am still not convinced this Asko is all its cracked up to be. But atleast it is behaving itself now. So we will see what comes back from Sweden and hope for the best.
At the minute I am sat on the fence whether or not I regret buying it over a Miele, but only time will truley tell. 😕
Best Regards to everyone,
Oliver.
pearce_jj wrote:Just for interest on some of the points in this thread, on my washer (Bosch) the pre-wash is cold and the hot-fill is used for 40*C+ washes (topped up with cold after a little bit). As a household with young children, I find pre-wash very useful indeed!
Anyway that too washes well with much less detergent than specified BUT after 10 years there is quite a build-up of hard white scale/scum which perhaps is due to insufficient water softening? The build up is sufficient to prevent the coin catcher being removed sometimes and the bottom hose is quite ‘crunchy’ feeling when squeezed (after which a load of hard blobs get washed through).
Hi JJ,
We can get away with much less as our water is very soft up here, we don’t see alot of limescale really. My 17 year old Bosch did a warm pre-wash, its far better than cold as it gives things a biological wash first to remove and break up the soil first. I too think a pre-wash is essential!!
All the best,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
quickwash wrote:Hi Oliver,
My water is harder than yours (your water is soft isnt it?), so i use 30ml, 55ml or even 75ml for real dirty stuff and dont have a prob with sudslocking 😀
From now on, as you are having good results with your dirtier than average workwear, i think i wont go over 55ml. I am using the Higher- Water-Level (:lol:) option now and have even better results on all temps. I think this option really gives the extra suds as i didnt notice so much ‘soap’ when not using it. Will save money so goodo 😀
Best wishes
quickwash :plug:
Hi Quickwash,
Aye, we have soft water up here.
It washes well with little, its suds badly though, it our water, this is why I want it to do a dilution rinse at the end of each wash like the Miele does.
I use 25ml on normal soil, 40ml for my work stuff and 60ml on bedding, skin creams are a pain to remove so need extra detergent to shift it.
Best Regards,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
Hi Quickwash,
A very long time!
I think we will beable to use less in the Miele as well, Mum has tried it and it still washes to perfection!
Just imagine how much detergent she goes through at 20+ loads a week and a good few have a pre-wash as well!
Best Regards,
Oliver. 😀
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
kwatt wrote:Hi Oliver,
They’re doing some testing to see if they can recreate the results in Sweden this week coming but it may take a while before I have any conclusive answers.
One thing that one of the techies pointed out though was that the Asko machines are designed specifically to use a lot less detergent deliberately. The argument being that it’s the most expensive component of the wash (they’re correct) and that saving detergent saves an awful lot of cash.
Of course this isn’t a thing that detergent companies are exactly over the moon about. 😉
K.
Hi Ken,
Thanks for this.
25ml does seem to wash fine (extremely well infact) so if all stays that way I am very happy, its something like 1/7 of the recommended dose.
Thank you so very much Ken.
Best regards,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
Right. I have been playing around with how much detergent is used. I have tried loads of different amounts and have managed to get it to stop sudslocking with 25ml. This seems stupid, is it really cleaning my clothes properly though, or will I see a build up of dirt after a period of months? Things seem clean after one wash but if it ruins my clothes through dirt build up I will not be best pleased to say the very least.
The results so far are promising though so I shall see how I go on.
Had any reply beck from Asko yet Ken? I do want it to do a dilution rinse on all programmes if at all possible.
Oliver.
