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Re: Will we be regulated by Corgi?
I’m not a fan of the way Corgi spend endless hours trying to figure out another money making way of ripping their registered installers off instead of chasing those who are unregistered.
I do think that anyone who works on cooking appliances, or any electrical system, should have enough grounding, based on some form of certification to provide them with enough knowledge to do their work safely and not compromise the safety of others.
While those who aren’t “certified” should be rigorously pursued to protect those who day pay for whatever license is requiredRight now off the cuff, and this is just a blase out of the blue guess, how many Non Corgi Gas installers of cooker hoods would even think about looking at the manufacturers instructions of the gas hob below to find out the required minimum height clearance, or, know of the top of their head what the minimum height clearance requirement for the hood would be without the manufacturers instructions.
So at present, if my assumption above is correct, they would place it at what they deem to be the correct height
The the poor old customer who has paid you good money to install this hood, then complains about an odd smell coming from the gas hobMr gasman turns up, finds flame lift on the burner when the hood is in use, creates the formation of aldehyde gases.
Nothing wrong with the hob, nice bill to the customer , at risk warning label, sop she cant use it anymore, all because the hood installer didnt have minimum required grounding.
I know thats a bit of an exaggeration, but the overall point i am trying to make is still there.
Or how many who work on washing machines etc, have an Earth loop test meter, or check the earth continuity of the appliance.
My guess, probably most have a megger, certainly all with have a multimeter.In my experience i have come across a multitude of “Cowboy’d I knew what i was doing scenarios, which causes me nothing but paperwork, all because someone who thought he knew what he was doing, actually didnt.
6mm cable wired directly from the built in oven to a cooker point that should have been 2.5mm and a 13 amp fuse, or vice versa
and my own opinion, although some form of certification doesnt actually mean, he did the job right, it does mean he knew how to do the job right.
Overall, i am all for certification of some form, but it should ensure the following.1) Ensure things are done safely
2) Train those who are certified to a minimum standard with a basic understanding of affiliated systems
2) Stop those who arent certified from carrying out that work
3) Allow them to charge more money for their greater knowledgeRe: MFI DIPLOMAT OVEN
To add comment to R600 & WhiteVanMan
Oven door glass is ofdten made from “Soda Glass”
It is designed to shatter into small pieces if it’s put under undesigned stress load or develops a fault, especially if the glass is still hot/warmIt is extremley unlikely that you have an additional fault on your appliance
Even failed thermostats wont cause the glass to shatterand although as a manufacturers engineer i have replaced many a shattered door assy in my time, its pretty rare
Just thought i’d add that to re-assure you a bit
Re: New World oven not working
Power down/disconnect prior to any testing
Any testing you do with a multimeter should be ohms only
1) I dont recognise the model code as being a stoves newworld type, and looking at the serial number, its probably more than 10 years old, so that would make it a Merloni NewWorldmost oven circuits comprise of
terminal block —>
thermal cut out —>
clock —> (if that oven is able to use an automatic START/STOP setting)
thermostat/selector switches —>
sometimes a pcb
elements —>
terminal blockmost likely component, if you have ruled out the element and thermostat would be the clock, failing that the thermal cut out
maybe its time for you to call out an engineer, clocks can be expensive, however they can often have their automatic switching bypassed, leaving the cooker pemantly in manualRe: REDUNDANCIES AT COMET
funnily enough, a comet engineer mate of mine just rang me up out of the blue
He wasnt aware of any redundancies, cetrtainly not at his depot
The only thing that had changed since we last spoke, was the introduction of a new bonus system and a reduction on daily workload from 10 calls to 9so maybe that one depot was either a relocation or a one off cutback
, maybe a costly rental agreement etc for the unitRe: REDUNDANCIES AT COMET
no, i aint a comet engineer m8, god forbid, i do have a little nonce about me
however i am rapidly losing it
Re: LPG cookers
if you are using a natural gas appliance with an lpg supply, it is classed as “Immediately Dangerous”
You should not use it at allIt will not be burning at the correct gas rates, the gas/air mixture will be all wrong
the installation itself will probably be dangerous, incorrect use of materials, wrong type of flexible pipe etc etc
The guy who installed it can and probably will be taken to court and any engineer that does turn up to service/repair that appliance, will be obliged by law to isolate it and will have to make out a RIDDOR report
RIDDOR ’95 means the Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations 1995, which came into force on 1 April 1996
Re: REDUNDANCIES AT COMET
this was bound to happen eventually
what organisation ties their engineers up for 2 hours a day dragging them from their home area to a depot, to spend at least an hour trying to get engineers supplied with parts from a vastly understocked store and then send them back to their area to carry out 10 repairs
with no overtime pay
another brainstorming idea from those sitting on the board
Re: cannon chester ignition problem
If no spark can be seen at an electrode tip on only a few electrodes, (not all) then, its probably shorting out somewhere on that individual ignition circuit
most likely components
cracked electrode
or a weakness in the electrode leadsdoubtful, but also possible, is the ignition generator itself
Some electrodes come complete with a lead, some come seperate)
This is a job for a corgi registered engineer
Prior to ringing an engineer, check carefully around the hotplate electrodes that arent sparking for signs of cracking etc
safety first, power off etc
Re: Oven Thermostat?
Valor became part of the Glen Dimplex group,. which owns Stoves, NewWorld and Belling
If you ring their parts line up and quote the GC number, they should be able to locate the part number for the thermostat and then be able to get you a price, if it isnt obsolete
Their labour/callout charge is £79.90
Thermostat has failed, if the flame will go to “High Flame”, but burns food
If the oven flame cannot reach “High flame”, then its a flame safety device problem
Re: Stoves oven continously sparking
you will also need to replace the oven door seal, it will have collapsed, causing partial oxygen starvation to the flame by partially blocking the forward venting plate
and thus causing an unstable flame which drafted about by the stir fan will be melting the electrode leadRe: belling farmhouse 911 timer fault
you should have 4 wires to the clock
live (marked L)
Neutral (marked N)and two wires that are very close to one n other that are connected to the clocks switching relay
You may find that one of these relay wires has a piggy back spade connection
Its simply a matter of connecting these two “Relay wires” together
this will bypass the automatic switching of the clock, and hence you will lose the “automatic” functionality of the clock, it will simply always be in manual mode, no matter what the clock display states
