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Re: Waste Carriers Licence

The whole point of this is that it is hugely complicated typical of a Government department, £840.00 is in my view an unrealistic amount given that for the money you are expected to pay you get absolutely nothing in return from them.

By introducing fines for what are legitimate businesses trying to act responsibly and recycle appliances which would have become WEE otherwise I feel that they are looking at the whole thing from a narrow viewpoint, of course not that my opinion would matter. However as a Trade and Industry, we all are in the same boat here. In essence for our part we refurb machines, these are resold and customers make further use of them, some parts re-used, scrap that cannot be used is taken to the scrap merchants or given to our local scrap man who does have a waste carriers licence, to have to start keeping records of every item which has been scrapped or reused and then have the pleasure of paying out £ 3000 every ten years there abouts seems ridiculous.

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Re: Waste Carriers Licence

I wonder how the suits ever decided that £ 840.00 for the T11 Licence would be the amount to ask ?

I am all for recycling but it seems to me that due to a number of thief’s and crooked scrap dealers along with the boffins at the EU that we are all now paying the price for their misdoings. By recycling Machines and NOT dumping them, us more than anyone else in this sector are playing a far more important role in being Green. The likes of the manufacturers who produce short life v Prohibitive Repairs are the ones that should have to have a CPWL which should be priced at a point where they would really need to access the viability of there own business ethics.

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Re: Waste Carriers Licence

As a afterthought, if a retailer regularly has machines on display for sale clearly marked as refurbished is not the T11 then required ?

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Re: Waste Carriers Licence

Thanks Ken,

To extend this convo a little further if one has a waste carriers licence and one takes such scrap to a registered scrap metal merchants, my understanding is that they now need proof of identity, pay you via a cheque as opposed to cash, and that vehicles are photographed. Now while I am not trying to hide anything this all being the case is it then likely that any records the merchant may be required to keep are then seen by the authorities and a audit trail back to someone like myself where they arrive at your door what morning asking questions about waste and wee procedures and licensing ? Also if one were to obtain a waste carriers license does that flag up to the EA that they need to contact you to ascertain the nature of your business and put you on the EAs Radar so to speak ?

Basically what I am asking is that I want to work as I always have ( like the rest of us no doubt ) and remain within the law at the minium cost

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Re: Waste Carriers Licence

Rather than start a new thread what is the current situation as of March 2013 for a white goods business who participate in the following activities:

1. Transporting Appliances to a premises for repair ?

2. After sale of a new appliance the old appliance collected for scrap, refurbishment, or salvage of working parts?

3. The storing of various wee for later disposal, vis, Major Domestic Appliances & Vacuum Cleaners ?

4. The storing of scrap such as copper, ally, cable, with a view to taking it to a registered scrap yard for sale ?

Would you need to have T11, S2 and Waste Carriers Licence to enable compliance with these activities and if so what is the cost and duration of any such item ?

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

It appears that the customer cannot locate the seller hence the path with Section 74 CCA

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

All points taken onboard Chaps, I think that the way this customer is working that because its inside 28 days of purchase and as they cannot get the original seller to come back and notwithstanding the Manufacturer has done a runner too, the customers are looking into Section 74 of the Consumer Credit Act to get something done that way.

I always in every case try a do the right thing for my customers and having dealt in both service and retail since 1972 I dont have too many problems that are of my own making. Thanks to all contributors for their advise and solutions, All Have a Nice Restful Sunday Evening before it all starts again tomorrow 😉

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

Andy I can assure you that you have not caused me ay offence whatsoever ! we all write things in emails, texts and posts the trouble being with statements that now and again the reader gets the wrong end of the stick.
My cryptic references were not in anyway directed to you,

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

I have promised not to rise to the bate and offer any further remarks of a nature likely to cause offence. Trying to stay on topic its not a case that I made a mistake but a calculated choice of if I wanted to be drawn into such a situation.

I should have provided a little more detail when I posted this, but I was more concerned about the legality of the connection method used by the twit who installed this appliance. As the customers where present when I removed this appliance from its housing it could be seen that the way in which the connection had been made it was all taped up in a disorganised way, frankly even the customers could see it looked like a bodge, they wanted me to confirm with them that as the appliance was only weeks old that this bodge up was in some way the cause of the breakdown. I suggested that I could not see that was the case but further investigation would be necessary, after some further dialogue with them I could see that there was going to be some milage in all of this and I suggested that it was not a job I was going to become involved in. (for obvious reasons !) , having extracted myself from the situation the next port of call was the manufacturers and as it turns out they walked away as well. Now, whatever the rights or wrong’s or how simple it would have been to do this and do that ( as suggested by wise men here ) it was not my problem and certainly I was not about to let it become a problem for me.

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

As far as I can make out because the flex from the appliance was not hardwired into the fixed spur directly and that it did not have a Plug fitted the Engineer aborted the job. Poor ole customer is now left with this situation and why for lords sake the guy who supplied this machine did’nt just use a recognised method of connection this would have saved this predicament. Such is life I have advised the customer to try a seek a solution via her card provider to see if she can get anywhere.

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

As an update, The customer has called me and it turns out they found a card statement which proved DOP, Hotpoint have called and have refused to work on the appliance. The job looked like bother from the off and I am glad I walked away.

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

i will be mindful not to offer any input on any other questions or advice you ask for in the future.

At last you have got it ! I am sure that this will be the best possible course of action and I thank you for highlighting the Dickhead reference once again, very helpful I am sure, this will allow other members to form their own opinions of someone who feels free to use that kind of useless and derogatory terminology which was completely uncalled for.

Lets not forget it is you that has the letter D in your user name:

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

Absolute Rubbish Dear Doc, your post was antagonistic with design, as regards my humour that is subjective, you did not appreciate it where others did! thats humour I am afraid like it or not. Your entitled to your own views, opinions or whatever be they right or wrong just like the other forum members. I cannot help but conclude you have taken this far too seriously as other members know you do not sell Cream Teas, it was a geographical joke Period as was Martins Tractor reference, purely harmless I can assure you and as anyone can see ! Goodness me have you nothing else to do ?

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

you are looking to blame someone or confirm that whoever did the poor connection has broken the law,

And Pray may I ask why should someone not ask if the connection method is legal ? that was a perfectly legitimate topic asked out of a genuine concern and in conjunction with what I had read elsewhere. You made that tenuous link in your own mind, when I questioned that angle I do fear you then made sarcastic mockery which may just be your sense of humour which I missed and which had no intent meant.

One things for sure though, as its an open forum anyone can join in and have their say, I think its clear that you proceeded to hand out unwanted advice and then went on to suggest that I may be looking to blame or cause bother all of which is untrue, therefore are we to glean from your statement that its ok for you try and take the mickey and when others join in you whinge,

Have a pleasant Day !

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Re: Approved Electrical Connections

Apologies Ken and with due respect this was only lighthearted until someone mentioned the D word, Point taken though.

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