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Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover HW120M
bullfan wrote:Hi,
My good lady told me a couple of days ago that the Hoover HW120M Washer dryer would not spin. This happened once before a couple of years ago and I replaced the carbon Brushes and all was fine. So this time I thought, it will be the Brushes again so I replaced them yesterday after finding the old ones worn down.
The problem is that the machine works and goes through the cycle no problems BUT the spin just seems to be on tick over. It never speeds up at all and just rotates slowly.
Any ideas please?
Cheers
My mother had a Candy-based Hoover washing machine after the ‘New Wave’ (that’s mentioned in another post), but before your model.
It washed fine but its spin became erratic: sometimes it span fine, other times it failed totally, or wavered up and down.
I had a look at the machine. The combination mechanical timer/computer board was knackered: at least one component was charred. The motor commutator was also badly worn.
It was decided that a new machine be purchased. She chose Bosch.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover washing machine overheats
When my mother’s machine started playing up big time in 1999, the parts were going to cost £180 or more. It really wasn’t worth it. When I had a look at it, the power board had arced at the motor wiring-loom connector.
The machine had previously developed an erratic spin profile, and would abort its programming (during the wash) every other day. The end was nigh when it did it 4 times in succession.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover washing machine overheats
On the early ‘New Waves’, the temperatures were pre-set. You could reduce the individual wash temperatures by about 10 degrees Celsius by pressing the ‘Economy’ button. There was no actual temperature indication.
Thus, programme #2 (Fast Coloureds at 60 deg C.), would become 50 degrees, on pressing the ‘Economy’ button.
I think later (hybrid controller) models, had a fully variable temperature option. So if you chose Programme #2, you could lower the temp by repeatedly pressing the ‘Economy’ button: 60,50,40,30, etc. The temp was displayed in the display window.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover washing machine overheats
The only things that I can think of are:
a. The heater relay contacts are welded in the ‘on’ position, due to the current required to power the heater. Relay failure is common to all makes and models.
b. Somehow the programming has become corrupted. This could be from the motor brushes sparking/arcing, or from a poor contact on the wiring loom. Apparently the programming was ‘hard-wired’, so there is no facility for replacing an EPROM chip, like other manufacturers offer.
I have read that the A.B. Electronics sourced boards fitted to the New Waves, were troublesome devils. I would seriously consider a new machine. You will be surprised by the quietness of new ones, compared to the New Wave.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Dishwasher recommendations?
I would be cautious of Zanussi/Electrolux dishwashers. My mother has had three Zanussi machines between 1987 and 2004. Each one had a lesser lifespan than its predecessor.
The last one was the pits: less than four years old and wheels disintegrated, the upper spray arm clattered off the dispenser flap, the filter crumbled, water bypassed the door seal (poorly design tub) and finally the whole machine died.
I have used Ariston/Hotpoint, Hoover, Zanussi, and Bosch machines. Out of this lot, the Bosch is by far the best. It has good spares backup, and feels more solid/rigid when loading and closing the door.
The machines from other manufacturers, feel rather flimsy in comparison.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover washing machine overheats
The original “New Waves” did not have any Error Code numbering; that only came with the ‘hybrid’ boards.
The usual result of an error/timeout, was to pump out, and for all LEDs to flash in unison.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: BOSCH WAE2416S knocking whilst spinning
suedehead1 wrote:
Any criticsm welcomed and usually ignored.
This would appear to be my 150th post i dont have post some rubbish.lol
S.
Probably the best option. 😀
(4 wot its wrth, I dont like txt-speek Ither! 😯 )
May 21, 2007 at 3:35 pm in reply to: Zanussi ZWD1662W & AEG Lavamat Turbo 16830 dryer problem #214027Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Zanussi ZWD1662W & AEG Lavamat Turbo 16830 dryer pro
Could it be that a bad batch of computer boards has made its way into the Zanussi and AEG machines?
Or could the boards not have been ‘coded’ correctly at the point of manufacture?
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: BOSCH WAE2416S knocking whilst spinning
Thanks for your comments, but it had to be said. Sloppy writing really grates with me.
Failing to use punctuation can lead to a totally different meaning being understood, as opposed to the intended meaning.
Spelling, I can understand. It is easy to make a spelling mistake; even I’m not perfect! However, there is no excuse for sloppy composition.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: BOSCH WAE2416S knocking whilst spinning
Mr Suedehead…
Do you think that you could use proper punctuation and grammatical rules, when you type? It is very difficult to read one long-winded sentence, which has neither capital letters or periods; let alone commas.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Bosch SGS46E12 possible Aquastop problem
When installing a new machine, it is a good idea to always use the new hose(s) provided by the manufacturer, with the new machine.
The ‘thin plastic hose’ will have been tested by Bosch, to ensure that it conforms to the necessary design specifications. It will also be less prone to bursting, perishing and kinking. It should also have its own filter built in.
Failing to use the new hose(s) could also void the warranty, if the machine should subsequently break down. The old hoses (or even new ones from another supplier) could be said not to be to the required design standard.
Had you used the new hose from the outset, you could have avoided the current inconvenience.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Ariston Margerita CD12T buttons – what do they mean?
Could it be “Economy” wash?
i.e. ‘wash at temperature of incoming water’ (no heat)?
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: BOSCH WAE2416S knocking whilst spinning
I can’t seem to access the video…the download lasts for ever.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover washing machine overheats
The early Hoover “New Waves” had problems with their electronics: they would abort the programme for various reasons.
The AC180 (1300 rpm, in Almond, by any chance?) will have purely electronic controller circuitry. Hoover designed later models to incorporate a hybrid electro-mechanical-computer board. I think this is also the recommended upgrade from Hoover, for troublesome early models. Last time I checked (my mother had the AC178), the upgrade was going to cost around £180 (mid 1990’s). Cheaper to buy a new machine!
By the way, I understand the gossip is that the green “Sensorspray” drum lifters are now discontinued from the Hoover Spares catalogue.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: BOSCH WAE2416S knocking whilst spinning
Could it be a cable (mechanical or electrical), slapping against the tub or shell casing?
(I’ve come across a Hoover Quattro from 2000, where the mechanical Bowden cable for the belt-pecker/door interlock assembly slapped against the outer casing, creating quite a racket on spin. The sponge-foam spacer/damper had slipped further along the cable, allowing the cable to flex excessively).
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