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Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Samsung Big Wash Q1433S
Are you sure that the siphon tube in the conditioner section of the drawer, is clean? This tends to clog, as conditioner residue builds up through time.
Take off the siphon tube/cover and wash under a hot tap. You may need to use a brush or cloth to clean it properly.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Washing machine soap nuts?
I haven’t tried Soap Nuts, because:
1: I haven’t encountered them previously.
2: I am mighty suspicious of cleaning products that lack at least detergent, bleaching agents and/or enzymes.
3: There is a chance that the nuts might cause some damage to the machine, ie pump blockage.
4: Possibility for damage to delicate clothing, should they emerge from the bag.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Washing machine soap nuts?
Martin wrote:Trilobite whilst you may be straying off the subject here just a tad, on reflection it appears from many of your previous posts, you are at least (and I mean this in a kindly sense 😉 ) a bit of a ‘soap nut’ yourself! 🙂
Your systematic analysis of soap powders and detergents both for dishwashers and washing machines is quite amazing. 😯 One would almost think you don a white coat and work in a laboratory all day from all the observations you have made? Very good indeed! 🙂 Takes a sharp one to get past you I reckon? 8)
Well maybe just one thing…..?
Trilobite wrote:
Listening to the upper spray arm, it seemed to surge, then rotate slowly. I’m not convinced that there are suitable amounts foam suppressants in the formulation.Your Bosch dishwasher incorporates a ‘water points’ metering system that regulates the water spray between upper and lower baskets every 50 seconds (or so) and that is why you will hear a distinct 5 second pause (the spray action is heard to slow down) as it switches automatically between the two… 😉
Getting back ‘on topic’ as it were, have you tried any soap nuts in your Zanussi yet I wonder? Are they all they are ‘cracked’ up to be? 😉
Ho ho! Ta for your psychiatric analysis! Credit given where credit is due! 😉
The Bosch when supplying the upper spray arm only (the diverter valve having previously switched into this mode) does indeed falter when too many suds are present. A further problem is, should the door be opened to investigate, a suds-lock condition can be encountered, whereby the circulation pump virtually stops and the diverter valve attempts to flip – usually unsuccessfully. A few years ago, Bosch appeared to acknowledge the suds-lock condition with certain tablets.
Overfoaming also occurs when overdosing modern powders: old-style chlorine detergents do not cause such effects.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Diplomat ADP8242 Integrated Salty questions
The salt reservoir will always be full of water (except if the machine is brand new; in that case it will be virtually empty). When you add salt, it is normal for water to overflow out of the container, and thus into the wash-tub area.
Salty crockery would normally indicate that the lid is not on correctly, or on tightly enough (hand-tight is sufficient). The lid may be split or cracked. When refilling with salt, be sure to remove any salt grains from the screw thread of the reservoir and lid, to ensure a good seal.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Washing machine soap nuts?
As a matter of interest, I purchased the Tesco ‘Naturally’ Laundry Powder and Dishwasher Tablets.
Dishwasher Tablets in Bosch Logixx SGS09L08: More foam than usually encountered with Finish/Fairy. Listening to the upper spray arm, it seemed to surge, then rotate slowly. I’m not convinced that there are suitable amounts foam suppressants in the formulation.
Biological Laundry Powder in Zanussi Jetsystem IZ16S: Claimed 16 doses per pack, as opposed to 10 for “Daz”. Four enzymes in the formulation. No fragrance as such, just the smell of cardboard and possibly a faint smell of coconut. Cleaned fine on a 40 degree Cotton ‘time-saver cycle’. Slight residue of undissolved particles on dark items; a normal cycle might have fared better.
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: bosch WFP3300 error f03
Could it be a sticky eco ball-valve in the sump (if fitted) causing such problems?
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Washing machine soap nuts?
Speaking of environmentally friendly detergents, I see that Tesco has recently added an Ecological range of detergents to its shelves. “Tesco Naturally…” or some such name.
And a lot cheaper than the “ECOVER” versions too: So is “Ecover” over-priced, or is the Tesco version not to the same ‘friendly standard’ as “Ecover”?
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: dishwasher – white deposits
gegsy wrote:Hi trilobite
The area you refer to is the drainage hose ventilation valve. Basically its to prevent airlocks in the drain system. With that much crud in there, its going to cause problems.Cheers
Greg
Ta Gegsy,
It seems daft to design the mouldings, that will clog and cause problems. Methinks the designers should redesign…
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: dishwasher – white deposits
gegsy wrote:http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/barfblog/graphics/IMG_3174.JPG
The water matrix will definately need replacing for starters as its not accesible for cleaning and will cause no end of problems.
I would then look at the antiflood/pressure unit to the right of it, if it is gunged up and you can clean it all brilliant, if not you will need to replace that.
Last and not least you will need to remove and clean the clear ribbed pipe which goes from the metering unit to the sump.To prevent this in the future ignore what the book says as to loading; scrape the worst off in the bin and then give the plates a quick rinse under tap before loading, this will prevent this build. Also a maintenance wash as previously mentioned monthly will work wonders 😀
Greg
Gegsy,
With reference to the above photo, what is the function of the ‘strange lumpy moulding’, coloured brown, in the upper left-hand corner of the heat exchanger? Is that part of the drain pipe?
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Hoover 1200 Special Edition (Range 4) drum off-centre
suedehead1 wrote:… i will stand by hoover manufactured in wales.
we have been hoover agents for over 50 years they dont pay me any money but i still recommend them.
new machines take a 6kg, 7kg and 8kg loads the 6kg would be fine go for a spin speed aboout 1200 to 1400rpm.
Manufactured in Italy, assembled in Wales, is more likely! 😕
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: How long should bearings last?
lone wrote:@ Trilobite
AEG is a good Quality machine for the money, The bearings are not usually of substandard materials, The seal is the first part to fail, then lets in the water.
Just out of curiosity how many boil washes do you do!!!
Most engineers on this forum will tell you they have had to change a broken spider (drum support) because it has rotted through, because of the powder not disolving (over use of the 30/40 Quick wash buttons), then blaming the machine. all this build up perishes the edge of the seal letting in water, (as well as the usual overload).The AEG had a couple of washes at 40 degrees, and one at 60 degrees every week. Every couple of months it had a maintenance cycle at 90 degrees. I used Ariel powder/tablets. Machine was replaced by a Zanussi IZ16 in 2001, which has turned out to by somewhat more reliable than the AEG.
Incidentally, modern AEG’s are Zanussi’s by another name…
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: dishwasher – white deposits
uoapsdb wrote:Martin – thanks, not far off ‘going in’ now
Trilobite – thanks, yes ‘she’ does use the economy wash a lot, then complains when it’s not spotless.
There is no rust inside, just muck, I’ve given it a clean now.
The idea of the photos was to show that there are white deposits
inside the machine at the end of the wash, this suggests the deposits are in the water during the final rinse doesn’t it ?.
I am trying the hot wash with nothing in the machine as you suggest.Well there you go: the (false?) ECONOMY programme is only suitable for lightly soiled dishes – like when Great Auntie Ethel comes round for afternoon tea; or the cereal bowls at breakfast.
It was never designed for spaghetti bolognaise deposits, or the Sunday breakfast fry-up. Your good lady has to be gently guided into using the NORMAL and INTENSIVE/POTS’n’PANS programmes. 😉
Furthermore, low temperature washes might actually cause a build up of greasy deposits in the house drains leading to the septic tank. This may contribute to a blockage.
If your wife wishes to continue using Ecover, allow her – but at least get her to use the hotter, more vigorous cycles. 🙂
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: dishwasher – white deposits
In the name of God!!!!!! 😯
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: Dishwasher – Siemens Avantgarde SE25831
nomadPaul wrote:Its normally caused by too much food residue being left on plates – its fairly important to ensure you rinse all crockery before you place them in the dishwasher. It can also occur if you run too many ‘quick’ washes and not enough ‘hot’ cycles
But you shouldn’t have to rinse: that is the whole point of owning a modern dishwasher. Therefore, it stands to reason that there is a ‘design limitation’.
If the manufacturers could build in a ‘self-flushing transfer-tube’ feature, it would save everyone, engineers and consumers included, a great deal of hassle.
Would such a feature be feasible?
Trilobite
ParticipantRe: dishwasher – white deposits
Looking at the photos, it appears that grease and starchy deposits have built up in the machine. Do you by any chance, regularly use an Economy programme? If so, I reckon that this is where the problem lies. It has probably built up to such an extent, that the transfer pipe has become clogged, leading to low water levels and poor cleaning.
The Bosch Instruction Manual will have a section about checking the tub for a build up of grease and/or limescale, and tell you to run the machine empty on the hottest wash with detergent (or you can use a dishwasher cleaner). You are supposed to run such maintenance washes quite regularly.
I say this because, looking at your photos, the machine does look as though it needs a thorough clean around the door seal areas. Also, is that rust I see on the floor of the tub?
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