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Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi guys. I finally finished reading through this mammoth forum. Some of you guys have gone above and beyond to help people out and on behalf of all the non-technical people like me I would like to send out a huge thank you!!!
However, Brodders has helped so many people on here and even driven to people’s houses to help them. He’s even taken the time to put together a fairly comprehensive repair kit and instructions to save people all the hassle of finding components of the right types and sizes themselves.
He doesn’t get paid for coming on here and helping people and from what I’ve seen over the last few days, he seems to get a kicking for his trouble. My personal stance is that people coming on here to help others deserve our respect. The recent arguments seem to have spiraled from a little misundertanding, which is all too common on forums (where things like sarcasm don’t come across).
I would be very surprised to see Brodders back on here again now. Which I think is a real loss for the forum and people genuinely looking for help, like myself. He seems to be more knowledgable about these whirlpool FFs than most people. Can’t we please just put an end to the bickering?
Sorry if I’ve put anyone’s noses out of joint, but I felt like someone had to say something.
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
You are deluded with you own self importance.
I came here because I had a fault, not because I enjoy talking about broken fridge freezers, I have a life.
I did offer something back by posting my silly mistakes hoping no one else would do the same by making the same mistake.
I am genuinely flabbergasted by how you have reacted to this. If you track back on my posts you will see I thanked you openly on the forum, and as you know I did this also on email. I never pretended to be an expert, if I was I would never have openly admitted I fitted the cap the wrong way round.
Your gripe seems to be I didn’t name check you when I posted the fix on the blown resistors. Big deal, get over it, life is too short.
We all know you that you are the expert on these fridges, but so you should be, it is your job, and you have a nice ebay business off the back of it. As for me, I pick a soldering iron up when I need to so have no issues in knowing you are better at it than me, it doesn’t bother me in the slightest, and never claimed to be an expert, my posts on my mistakes are evidence of that. I suspect however you wouldn’t be able to do my job with a couple of hours research on an internet forum.
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
I thought Chezza was joking to be honest.
I’m not on anyones bandwagon, stop being so bloody needy and sensitive
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
broddersbaldrick wrote:
I do this for nothing and don’t expect insults from Scotish idiots.
Stick it up you kilt *****Edit: Swear word edited. It`s a public forum where anyone from the age of eight to eighty can visit.
Don
Well I guess if I were scottish I would feel a tad upset , but I guess as in your posts, especially your latest exciting news concerning new boards, you assume an awful lot .
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hello, I am new to this site and have had a quick look through this thread, I can’t see the same problem I am experiencing, but please forgive me if I have missed it.
I have a very old FF (purchased in 2000) and up until now it has worked beautifully, and since reading this, I suppose I should feel very lucky! However last week I noticed that the central bar that both doors shut onto was getting very hot, so hot that the rubber seal on both fridge and freezer doors is getting hot also, hot enough for my young daughter to yelp when her arm touched it.
The next problem I noticed was when I got ice lollies out of the freezer, on the hottest weekend so far this year, only to find they were liquid. Initially I thought someone had not closed door properly, but now 2 days later the freezer is still not freezing. Fridge is working fine.
I have pulled out FF and there was some water on the floor.The numbers I have got are
ARG 488
3XARG488G00Any help would be much appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi femstermum. I was recently suffering from red-hot panels, so it’s possible your problem is similar to mine.
My problem was the condenser fan motor breaking. You can test this theory by removing the metal panel at the bottom rear of your freezer and looking at the fan located in the centre-rear of the unit. It’s big so you can’t miss it. Assuming you turned off the power before removing the panel, you should turn the power back on and wait for the compressor to kick in (and make that distinctive freezer noise). After a few mins the fan should also kick in. My suspicion is that it will not.
If this is the problem, I think there are 2 possible causes. The fan motor could be burnt out. You could remove the fan (disconnected from mains, obviously) and give it a good sniff. Mine smelt like a burnt out motor (strangely enough). I believe the other possible cause is the rear PCB, which controls the fan).
Either way, it is not a good idea to continue running your FF if the panels are red-hot to the touch as you could damage other components. I didn’t realise this and needed to top my gas up as a result (I won’t get into that). If you want to talk to an expert, I can give you the contact details of Brodders, who is always happy to help. He was a massive help in diagnosing my problems.
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Femstermum, your unit is not the same as the majority of units mentioned on here, and the saying a little knowledge is a dangerous thing applies to the last post.
The most likely and easiest cause of your problem is a build up of fluff at the front grills – the plastic panel that runs beneath the fridge and freezer doors ; this either unclips or unscrews, depending on the age . then on the r/h side you will hopefully find a matted wadge of fluff, hairs etc . If this isnt the fault, then it is likely to be the cooling fan in the rear which isnt controlled by any pcb as there is no rear pcb .
and any idea that you would need to top up the gas because the unit ran hot is laughable.Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
CookieMonster
Thank you, thank you. I did as you said.
Turned it off, turned it back on, fan does not start up….
Have not taken it out yet to sniff, however a couple of weeks ago I spent several hours trying to find the source of a hot plastic smell in the kitchen, I suspect my hot plastic smell is the same as your burnt out motor smell!
OK so I have a burnt out fan motor, where do I get a replacement? Also could I replace it myself, I have a tiny bit of DIY experience, but don’t fancy blowing myself up or breaking a nail…LOL.
Thanks again for your quick response.
Femstermum
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi femstermum. I should clarify that I was just explaining what the problem with mine was and that I’m not a qualified engineer. However if you condenser fan is never coming on, then this may indicate the fault. Please do take advantage of the more qualified members if they are around.
Chezza – sorry I didn’t mean to steal your thunder or anything. I was just trying to offer any help I could. However, a qualified engineer (a call-out) diagnosed that by running my FF so hot for a long time that the increased gas pressure had forced gas out of the tiniest holes (which would be too small for the gas to escape under normal operating pressures). So your laughing is misplaced.
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Good morning everyone, I have joined this forum to see if I can save a few £ fixing my fridgefreezer.
I have a problem with the freezer side, it is an S25 RSS31 I believe.
The fridge seems normal temperature, but the freezer is around 1 or 2 degrees and the front panel warning is going off.
Last night I vacuumed in the grill at the front as Ive never had it off in 4 years and it was full of cack.
this morning still no change, so i removed the plate at the back and the fan is running and the black metal pot shaped thing (is that the condenser?) is quite hot, not sure how hot but i can put my hand on and hold it there for about 10 seconds before it is unbearable.I know which end of a screwdriver to use and build computer etc, so I’m hoping with a little sound advice I might be able to fix it myself.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
BenRe: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Thank you both CookieMonster and Chezza for your thoughts on what might be wrong with my FF.
As soon as it started playing up I pulled out the vent and vacuumed there, I do this every once in a while so there was no great build up of dust/dirt, it made no difference.
It sounds like you both agree that it could be the cooling fan motor.
As it is such an old FF 1) Am I going to be able to get a replacement and 2) If they are still available, where would I get one from? and 3) Will I be able to fit it myself?
Many thanks
Femstermum
CF on freezer control panel
Hi all
I have a Whirlpool model FRWW2VAF20/0 model number 8586 400 15000.
The control panel on the front of the freezer is flashing CF. Any ideas if this is user fixable? I’m competent with electronics.
Thanks
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi again femstermum. Assuming it is the condenser fan motor (you should verify that first), then…
1) Yes2) I think this is the right part : http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/Refriger … Motor.html
3) It looks like a straightforward plug & screw-in job. But take a look at where it’s located and how it’s attached to your unit first. If you’re even slightly unsure, please get an engineer to fit it for you.
It would be great if someone like Chezza could offer his advice too though.femstermum wrote:Thank you both CookieMonster and Chezza for your thoughts on what might be wrong with my FF.
As soon as it started playing up I pulled out the vent and vacuumed there, I do this every once in a while so there was no great build up of dust/dirt, it made no difference.
It sounds like you both agree that it could be the cooling fan motor.
As it is such an old FF 1) Am I going to be able to get a replacement and 2) If they are still available, where would I get one from? and 3) Will I be able to fit it myself?
Many thanks
Femstermum
Re: CF on freezer control panel
Mike1963 wrote:Hi all
I have a Whirlpool model FRWW2VAF20/0 model number 8586 400 15000.
The control panel on the front of the freezer is flashing CF. Any ideas if this is user fixable? I’m competent with electronics.
Thanks
Hi Mike. All I know is that CF means “communication fault”, although I’ve had “experts” try to tell me it means Change Filter before. 😉
You should try searching back through this thread as the causes and fixes have been discussed at length. There’s a very high chance you’ll be able to find a solution yourself if you’re competant with electronics.
Re: Whirlpool American Fridge Freezer broken down – help!
Hi “CF” denotes a control board failure. It is deffo not cooling fan. You will need a set of control boards.If you post the serial number i should be able to give you a more acurate idea of the part or parts you will require.I may be able to supply you with the parts.
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