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Re: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
The problem isnt just the sealed drum, its the cost, if it was only £60 to buy the repair would be good.
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There you go jim, well done martin, cant believe its been in place since 2007!
Leaving parts in customers house will mean that these parts will almost certainly go to landfill which is wrong!
I dont doubt for a minute that you have had to scrap a sealed drum machine because you couldnt retrieve that lost bra wire, also i have had to scrap a machine because a bra wire went straight through the rear section of a splitable drum, the cost of rear tub, tub seal and labour was just too much for the customer, do you see my point, all sorts of repairs can become to costly to the customer.
The mindset of the customer has to be changed and the manufacturers need to think harder about the decisions they make and get the cost of parts prices reduced.
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Backs up my point then, do i believe them…….. Not for a second!
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Thats right, you are making assumptions with no data or study to back up what you say, unfortunately you only go to broken machines, for every sealed drum you write off there is probably hundreds that are working just as good as new, so i dont think we should be telling people not to buy them.
All old washers are classed a wee and is recycled, has been for a while, which planet you been on. What do you do with all your old parts that you replace?
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: Liebherr GN1956 Freezer
Check supercool button is sticking in, sounds like poss board fault if not
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Yep sounds about right to me martin
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iadom wrote:The lady with the 26 month old Bosch with totally knackered bearings in a sealed drum I saw yesterday was not impressed to say the least.
There have always been bearing failures but the sealed drum Zanussi, Bosch, Whirlpool, Indesit group do seem to suffer bearing failure at a much earlier age than the old type machines.
This can only be due to the quality of the bearings and water seals also being severely downgraded as part of the whole ‘cost saving’ exercise.
Where is the data to prove your point that sealed drums fail sooner?
I have seen customers with who have had bearings fail in a miele after 3 years, i have seen customers with non sealed drums with bearings failed after 3 years, depends on usage!
Unfortunately you only see broken machines.
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
And still the fact is that there is no evidence that sealed drums are responsible for more machines not being repaired.
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It would be an offence for the drum to go to landfill, it is wee waste. We carry waste liscence, our premises are registered for the storage of wee, and it gets collected and recycled, all of us should be doing this.
The idea of sealed drums was probably thought of by a finance man who cant see beyond the cost of manufacture, if its cheeper to make sealed drums why the high cost to buy? That is what needs addressing.
However i would ask you martin to produce the data they clearly shows that sealed drums are worse than splittable types, the danger is telling customers to steer clear of sealed drums with no actual evidence they fail quicker than splittable.
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Heres the thing, if the replacement complete drum was at a cost that made the machine a cost effective repair, then this wouldnt be an issue, much easier repair than getting a huge hammer out to smash the old bearings out and refit new ones with the same thing, then of course what happens to the old metal bearings? Probably thrown in the customers bin then to landfill, great, a drum assembly will go to scrap and be recycled, if you look at the whole picture the issue of sealed drums looks the way forward, what needs to be done is getting the manufacturers to reduce the cost of the parts they sell and has been for a while.
I do understand that most of the members on here are one man businesses that only do repairs, but sometimes you have to look beyond just repairs to get the full issues and the way forward.
If i could get complete drums either remanufactured or new at the right price i would much prefer to do this repair than smashing out bearings in a customers house.
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The reason for my post is that unless the bearings fail it doesn’t matter whether the drum is sealed or not. The OP is suggesting that machines with sealed drums will have early bearing failure and then be BER, i dont think that is true at all. So to advise anyone not to buy a sealed drum machine would not be right at all.
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This Belling was probably made in ghe beko factory
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: Hotpoint LFT 114 still leaking after new seal fitted
Put some aluminuim tape on the underside of the worktop.
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: Hotpoint LFT 114 still leaking after new seal fitted
And that could be the problem, poorly fitting door that quite possibly caused the led failure
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