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Re: problems with supplier
Like my post says, good company and i never have a problem. But i suppose it depends on weather you fill the forms out properly. Why have you had problems with the martin, do you spend much with them?
Re: problems with supplier
I have used DAD for many years and never had a problem with them, good company to deal with. Dont have everything in stock, but have some good deals on from time to time.
Re: CURRYS KNOW HOW
For what my opinion is worth, this is all been set up for brown goods repairs and return to store appliances( kettles, toasters etc), they are not setting up a new white goods network and will continue to use a third party to provide this service, remember half the white goods they sell they bought from far away manufacturers for a pittance per unit, so it simply wouldnt be cost affective to start having there own engineers etc. It simply isn t cost affective either to equip a van with replacement machines to provide a in house swop over, so that wont happen either.
The biggest threat is Repaircare losing the contracts and the contracts going to another SP such as NESN etc, and you not being a agent for that new SP.The easiest thing to do is to not do the work at the miserable rates in the first place, then changes would be forced on them, i simply use the jobs as day fillers and have reduced the area i cover for them, it suits my business at the moment. May be if we were regulated and they had to employ a regulated company……… no best leave that there as its been discussed before…
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
gandh1 wrote:dill, how would you like me to provide “proof” that most net competitors your complaining about are not bedroom operators???
I never asked you for proof, i merely asked you to back up the statement above that you made, i will assume its just your opinion with no actual evidence to quantify it.
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
Hi, me again, i was wondering if you gandh1 was going to reply to my request about where you got the info/facts from for your last statement, i only ask because when i make statements like that i am asked to back them up with facts. I dont understand why you havnt been asked for them.
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
gandh1 wrote:-
so you contract the kitchen installs out, which basically makes you an agent just like net retailers, but in a physical state, rather than the net retailer. essentially both forms of sales are you supplying the customer with the information the customer deciding, you processing an order and thats that. the only difference im assuming you do, is measure up the house, and use fancy software to plan the kitchen?You assume wrong, i have 12 kitchens on display, 150 door samples, 45 carcase samples, sample units, Granite, Silestone, Wood and laminate samples, mix of appliances in the kitchens, lighting on the kitchens, point of sale material, brochures, and the thick end of £4 on “fancy software”, best part of £50k investment, not like a net retailer at all.
And on the fitting side , i employ the fitter for the install and i pay him.
I dont think any of the above basically makes me an agent, thats how 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of Kitchen Studios do business.Quote:-
its already noticeable that those who have survived the last recession were discounter companys who either could cover losses with other parts of their busness portfolio, or established companys charging premium rates for their service and goods. just like with the economay, you cnat use borrowed money to pay off debts for very long. no matter what labour try to tell youCould you please show me the data/research that backs up this statement, or a link to where you found these facts, as i would be interested to see this data.
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
iadom wrote:I specifically did not mention any individual when making my post, I leave it to others to decide to whom I was referring. :rolls:
But you made it obvious to all to whom you was referring, you are allowed to inferr this as its your opinion, i on the other hand am not.
The reason I do have the right to speak out is also the very same reason that no one has the ‘right’ to expect preferential treatment from suppliers.
I Agree, never said anyone had the “right”Thankfully we do still live in a free society and people, businesses or manufacturers be they big or small can sell to whoever they like at whatever price they like, that simple fact is enshrined in law. 8)
Totally agree with this too, it backs up my side of the fence!, and the very reason that i buy at a better price than others, something others want to stamp out so we all buy at the same level weather they have B & M’s or not! In that one statement iadom you have backed up my opinion, all i can hope for is that someone will tell you that its not enshrined in law and incorrect, just like i was.(Somehow dont think it will though)
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
Well theres a post from a small minded person with no input to the topic! Read your own post iadom and you will just laugh like i did, so ironic, you couldnt make it up.The fact is you and others only intention is to talk about any thing but the topic in hand, just stoke up nonsense.
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
Well done Martin, another one of your totally pointless, non relevant posts. Gets your post count up though.
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
Yet again you Mr K Watt choose to ignore the fact that i have on many occasions in this thread explained why i think i should purchase at a better rate than a purely internet based company, FACT.
I know you retail ISE machines, this however is a closed market as only independants that you choose can retail them and then we all stick to the same price dont we? , but the less said about that the better. (Good thing in my opinion all at same price by the way) So ISE machines all same price no competition, so not really a very good example, and even you have to admit that.
Internet retailing only does have costs, mine were very low, the costs of which i really dont have a clue about, but again you asked the question why B & M should by at a discount and i gave my reason why, you cant except that though, you want more, i cant give you more, i can only talk from my position which is a real position, yours is just a plan never realised for the reasons you state.Also for the record i have never said that i dont like you at all, and never have i disputed the work you have done for independants, i think it is you that has taken a dislike to me, but i think we should leave stuff like that out of forums as it has no bearing at all on what we discuss, well it dosnt in my case anyway.
Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
So again, why should a B&M store, or anyone else, be afforded a price advantage over others that operate in a different channel?
Because as i have said from my very first post, because i have invested in actual product and stock, and have a real store to demonstrate and delivery personally and install for the customer, which for most manufacturers is what they prefer.
Same view i have always had, but my view all the same and based on my real life experience.Yours however is not based on your own current experience of actually having a internet or bricks and mortar outlet selling major white goods, so as far as i am concerned you have no credability in this argument, sorry but again my opinions.Re: Hacked Off About Internet Pricing?
My Assumption was based on this:-
As an online retailer I suppose I shouldn’t get too annoyed about appliance pricing online but, it does really wind me up.
and this:-
I’ve priced up a few things recently and it really hacks me off when I see stuff online for less than I, as a trader, can buy it at from a distributor and, even more so from the manufacturer.
My replies were to these quetions:-
You guys that are selling or have stores must get right hacked off with this rubbish.
How does that work then and what have the manufacturers etc. done to help, if anything?
I answered based on the above and the rest is history, and it turns out you do not run or are part of a solely internet company selling appliances, so why did you say this:-
As an internet retailer I have spent considerable sums on IT equipment, support, renting server space and bandwidth and also have the additional hassle of the DSR which gives consumers even more rights, at my cost.
I also have to advertise a lot as, otherwise, nobody will find my store and that carries a significant cost as well as you don’t just pick up passing trade or people seeing your store and thinking to pop in for a look.
The online retailer also has to deal with the idiots on Kelkoo, Price Runner and goodness knows what else that will sell with next to no margin on the products just to get turnover.
So, after all those costs to me and a number of disadvantages as well, why should a “bricks & mortar” store be afforded a commercial advantage just because there’s no “physical shopfront”?
I think it should be quite obvious to everyone that i am talking about my thoughts on this topic from my view point of being an actual shop selling white goods appliances and competing with the internet. You Mr K Watt are not as you do not have a shop at all, so have no actual current view other than third party data and info. A bit unfair dont you think then?
