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Re: Bosch WFL2400 “Tank Slaps” at start of spin cy
would there not be a full label on the rear?
so “as-you-were-looking-at-it-from-the-back” top LHS, just under the lip of the lid, thats where the main ones are on the uk spec models…
Re: connect distribution returns policy
homersimpson wrote:
bazza500 wrote:
What is to stop anyone going out to an appliance with no idea of any fault finding, ordering motor,pcb, pressure switch, door lock, valves and trying them all until it works and then returning all the other parts.if someone has no idea of fault finding on any appliance.they should not touch it.
what bazza was trying to say is that just cos you me and most of the people on here dont do that, and therefore believe those who do shouldnt be touching repairs, doesnt mean they will stop working that way because we said they shouldnt, it goes on and we have to accept it, and unfortunately pay for it. its connects fault in the first place for handing out trade contracts willy nilly, even to the local market trader, and due to the broad range of products they now offer, it can only increase the likelyhood of this happening which is i guess the reason why a 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} restocking fee has been introduced, to put off the odd-job man with no day-to-day experience who will just try everything. ive lost count of the hotpoint interlocks, p/w’s, modules, elements and thermostats ive recieved which have clearly already been tried – spade end scrapes for example on the terminals.
my personal opinion is there should be a fixed percentage (say 5{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}) of your previous quarterly turnover with them that should be allocated to you for no quibble refunds during the next quarter – i.e customer N/L/R or fitted and does not fix, and at the end of each quarter what hasnt been used expires. this would have the same level of disuasion the current 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}, whilst offering genuine trade users a bit of discretion. this kitty would obv not be dipped into for valid legal returns – failure under warranty, DIT, or wrong part listed/wrong picture/description used etc
Re: Summer music festivals – anyone out and about???
HAHA just found out i will have enough cash for sonisphere!!! (thank god for re-cons)
IRON MAIDEN SING-ALONG-TIME HERE I COME (again)
Re: ZANUZZI ZWD16270W
timdowning wrote: it was all going to plan until I forgot to clean my teeth after the ‘ginsters’
ur sposed to pull before the ginsters!
the ginsters is to satisfy the appetite that was worked up from being with your newfound partner!!!or is ‘ginsters’ an euphonism (beef potato and swede = meat and 2 veg)???
Re: Waste Carriers Licence
Allsorts wrote:
gandh1 wrote:
You misunderstand me, our local tips refuse any trade vehicles, so this is not possible, be it on behalf of the customer or otherwise. The nearest one that accepts trade vehicles with refrigeration charges £40 per unit, and is 18 miles away.
Our refrigeration is picked up by a 3rd party who legitimately disposes of it for us (with all valid documentation) for a nominal charge. We have a waste carriers license.You can transport the fridge to the local tip or registered scrapyard for the customer as long as you hold a Waste Carriers Licence. The Tip will not charge you so long as you get a tipping certificate which your customer would need to get from the recycling dept of your local council refuse dept.
I’m assuming customer rings tip, tells them they are getting a new fridge, certificate of disposal sent to them, its then collected by retailer along with the fridge and dropped off at local tip?
I really did not know this was allowed, I think the local tip have been misleading businesses 😛 lol… no wonder currys can afford to take away fridges for free, and wont take a fridge immediately, instead arranging for a collection engineer to come round 2 weeks later!
Allsorts wrote:
gandh1 wrote:
What im asking is how do the EA determine the business’ “intention” of what is being collected.
Take today for example, replaced a 3 year old frigidaire rl6003b which had degassed itself. Technically, that could be refurbished by recharging it, we arent going to do that, but its possible. Our intention is that its waste for disposal and always will be but how would an EA inspector determine it was WEEE waste or WEEE for repair? What is to stop a “little-hitler” EA inspector determining your business is collecting WEEE for repair without a T11 because they are on a quota for fining businesses, much like traffic wardens are for parking offences.They do not… Effectively, they will only determine your non-compliance by way of interference with the unit being stored for disposal or by way of neglect of thee rules… ie. you have dismantled some spares from the unit or you have stored it in an unsafe area or area that is detrimental to the recycling of the unit (outside in the wet). You must keep the units safe from damage.
Why must they be kept safe from damage? Surely that would imply more-so that I was keeping them for reworking?!?
Allsorts wrote:A T11 is not needed to sell or give away refurbished WEEE, only to refurbish it.
I have a problem in my area with refurb elves working on my machines while I sleep. I cant help it, they can transcend walls 😀
Allsorts wrote:If you wished to repair it then you require the T11 … However, if your customer wanted you to repair it for them and then they sold it to you it is a different matter
So theoretically someone could repair it for a customer for say £60, and then the customer could sell it to the repairer for £60… And that would be legal. And not require a T11
Allsorts wrote:
gandh1 wrote:
What if the appliance was being collected to be repaired and then deemed BER and so not returned, but spares were harvested on the business premises, would a T11 then be needed, if the waste appliance was given to a scrap man???You would need a T11 in order to harvest the spares.
What if they fell out unnoticed when being stolen by a scrap pikey? Or were never there when the appliance was collected ???
Allsorts wrote:One thing I must say here… Although I say that all these questions were put forward and responses were received, the EA guy seemed pretty dumfounded by the quantity and type of questions I asked; especially since I held him to ransom for 3½ hours…
It certainly seemed to me I must say that the guy from the EA was trying to help rather than hinder… It also seems to me that the EA staff do not know the full reasons for this fee and they say that they are going to find out..Yeah sounds like it might be another bright idea from labours quangos, sorry, “thinktanks” and the EA have been told to get on with actioning it.
Allsorts wrote:gandh1, you are asking questions in a stance that I would expect of a Jew asking question of someone about the Gestapo (please excuse the phrasiology), calm down.
That’s made me smile the most ive smiled all day!
Its not that im trying to be jewishly tight about this, (nothing wrong with jews btw) I just dislike the way the EA feel it is necessary to impose themselves on easy targets (imo wrongly and contradictory in a way which will not affect in the slightest the way WEEE is disposed off – It wont stop pikeys flytipping fridges, and it wont stop joe public selling energy hungry appliances in the paper and conning people with condemned gas cookers on ebay) So its just to create more work to justify more public sector jobs for more people who have no concept of the way the real world lives. The fact this will discourage the practical recycling of appliances with minimal carbon footprints that will now need to be processed by the mass-mileage transportation of scrap to the far east completely flies in the fact of any environmental gain profitted. All in the name of raking in a bit more cash.
So hands up anyone who thinks maybe the EA have been told their annual budget has been cut for 2010-2011???
Re: CDA CW896
took out a cda (2 weeks old) over a month ago to replace with another in a new build. looked like it was defo whirlpool based tho as it had their patented fast fit slide in system on the base, cant tell you what the cda code was because its long gone to the shredder 😛
have since had calls from the other landlords/owners in the same block who are requiring other replacements being fitted inc another f/f that just kept running and not cooling and 3 CDA ci350 int washer dryers that were smoking (thought they were haiers until i noted “made in italy” which i now guess theyre probably candy sourced)
back to the f/f so not sure if id personally bother repairing tho as they seem to be “shizzle” and seem to be clearly rebranded because w/p had so many quality concerns or massive issues that were so bad with them from day one, they wouldnt dare put their own badge on them 🙂
Re: Electrolux EOD6330X No Clock and no power to main oven
dropped/loose connection/earth tags refitted??
180* thermal cut out melted (about a tenner)?
electronic timer zapped (expensive)?
selector switch frazzled (£20ish but not as expensive as timer)?
in order of most likelyness
Re: Waste Carriers Licence
Allsorts wrote:Irrepairable or Repairable makes no difference. If you collect an item with an intention of repairing the item you will need a T11
as in my previous post, who decides my intentions?
Re: ctd80 tripping issue now
Allsorts wrote:Where the heater wire goes through into the cabinet put some insulation tape over the metal all around the hole…. I had one tripping and it took bloomin ages to find the fault… the wire was earthing to the casing right through the cable insulation
George
got plenty of these 😀
Re: Waste Carriers Licence
Allsorts wrote:
gandh1 wrote:
does this mean when collecting an old b/i fridge that needs new £80 of new hinges (due to my weee obligations because the owner has no way of tranporting it to a weee site e.g. no car) we need to ensure it is unrepairable prior to transportation?There are few .. very few.. scrapyards that are allowed to take fridges for treatment .. there is a link to the register containing a list of these scrapyards on the EA website.
You can transport the fridge to the local tip or registered scrapyard for the customer as long as you hold a Waste Carriers Licence.
You misunderstand me, our local tips refuse any trade vehicles, so this is not possible, be it on behalf of the customer or otherwise. The nearest one that accepts trade vehicles with refrigeration charges £40 per unit, and is 18 miles away.
Our refrigeration is picked up by a 3rd party who legitimately disposes of it for us (with all valid documentation) for a nominal charge. We have a waste carriers license.
What im asking is how do the EA determine the business’ “intention” of what is being collected.
Take today for example, replaced a 3 year old frigidaire rl6003b which had degassed itself. Technically, that could be refurbished by recharging it, we arent going to do that, but its possible. Our intention is that its waste for disposal and always will be but how would an EA inspector determine it was WEEE waste or WEEE for repair? What is to stop a “little-hitler” EA inspector determining your business is collecting WEEE for repair without a T11 because they are on a quota for fining businesses, much like traffic wardens are for parking offences.
Are businesses deemed guilty unless they can prove their innocence, or would they EA have to prove without doubt that the aforementioned RL6003 was definitely going to be re-gassed, even though it has yet to happen???
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And the other 3 grey areas I thought of was would a t11 be required for someone in posession of WEEE for refurbishment prior to April, even though it isnt being transported? would they now need a T11 to resell the refurbished produce? What if it was given away for free?
Also what if the retailer fulfilled their WEEE obligation by only receiving the WEEE appliance at their premises, delivered by the consumer, and then wished to repair it, they havent transported it so surely a T11 isnt required??
What if the appliance was being collected to be repaired and then deemed BER and so not returned, but spares were harvested on the business premises, would a T11 then be needed, if the waste appliance was given to a scrap man???
Re: ctd80 tripping issue now
ok will check it, sounds more likely than the blocked hole as i cotton budded around there to make sure it was free of gunk
Re: hotpoint rfa52p thats too cold on #1
yeh a recharge wasnt really viable in her opinion, so told her shes better off replacing rather than throwing any more cash away on this one. weird that this is happened tho to this model as the rfa52’s seem to have been really reliable *touches wood* so far havent had any callouts/uplifts to any weve supplied and is abread and butter stock machine for us, bad batch possibly as it came from currys in a sale for just over £200 and that was virtually trade price even 2 years ago!
Re: hotpoint rfa52p thats too cold on #1
are we talking internal or external, rarely touch refrigeration, its just the fact customer is family of a friend, and the sheer age of it means ive taken an interest on this one.
im i right in assuming the phial is the metallic solder-like tail of the thermostat?
and the connector is the tube it feeds down into teh carcass ???
as for back panel do you mean the backwall of the internal carcass, or the back panel being the heatsink on the outside?
only ask this as the rfa52s have an autodefrost fridge, theres no panel in the internal carcass of the fridge like you used to have with the older lecs etc where the t/stat-wire (phial?) used to wrap around. also as i said in the last post, there is a almost perfectly oblong slab of icey frost covering the top half of the backwall of the internal carcass. is there any heaters or mechanisms that are designed to melt the droplets to make the autodefrost work ???
compressor is continually running unless thermostat is off’d and then it wouldnt kick in for at least the 30 mins i was there afterwardsdoesnt sound like its degassed as there plenty of (quiet) ooshing and gushing, much like the other rfa52s ive sold, but there isnt the gurgling sounds that some other brands make
food is probably freezing its certainly crunchy but the milk in the door hasnt been freezing, but then it has only been run on #1 (thermometer read it at 2degrees top shelf im pretty certain now i think about it that she said the milk froze when the new t/stat was set to #3
Re: Sebo or Miele?
Oh i wasnt having a go at you 🙂
it just annoys me at the level of influence the big supermarkets wield. they even seem to have more arrogance than the comets & currys.
each independant is run differently which is why they are independants, lol, i know full well how much extra trade you can gain if your open a bit later than your rivals, we are fortunate enough to be situated on a road where the towns train station (on direct line to waterloo) is one side of us, and one half of the towns residential area is on the other side of us. in the past we used to open early (7ish) to get the shop ready and receive deliveries, and then shut at 5, but the odd occasion we were there later than 5 we noticed we got panic calls from customers who wanted things desperately, and of course we were never there to answer so we lost the trade.
so took the decision to open later, start about 8:30ish unless we have an early delivery, and now offically open till 7 weekdays, to get the next days deliverys/shop ready, which means many of the suits pop in on the way home cos the mrs needs a new iron/kettle/mw etc. its actually almost as busy at 6 as it is between 12-2. which were very happy about. it also means we can offer after-work deliveries too which has also increased trade.
as for group buying, these are already available but do not work out much cheaper because it takes a lot of manpower to organise that sort of thing, which people wont do for free 🙂 so what you would gain by being part of a buying group, is usually then lost with running costs, either via annual buying group membership fees, or in the actual price if its via a distributor.
The thing that grates us in the trade is that mr supermarket looks at making a fiver on a henry as an added sale. it isnt their primary form of turnover, as that is ensured via your local grocery/necessitys, so no matter how little they make on it it all goes into the pot of “extra profits”. its just like the online appliance webshops of argos, homebase, sainsburys, coop, marks and spencers, etc who basically let an external logistics warehouse company use their name in order to get a {e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the sales. thats why the prices inc del tend to often be identical between several supermarkets!
they dont actually care how much the machines are being sold for, as long as they get that important extra bit of cash, cos they arent doing anything for it!!
You can almost guarantee too that the low low prices will not be so low once independant competition has all disappeared…
