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Or you can get a manual from the manufacturer who can be contacted through Anglo Iberian Services on 01245 320992.
K.
LOL, subtle Del, very subtle. 😉
Interesting stuff in the forums, very good posts but why-o-why is it always when I fook off that this sorta stuff starts? 😉
K.
Re: A crystal ball view of contract work
£40, that old magic number! 😆
But now we have a new kid on the block, Merloni! Right, stop laughing at the back there, seriously, they offered £37 for normal work and £50 for gas through NESN, now NESN weren’t doing it for nothing were they? No, so you have to assume there’s at least another £5 on that for their trouble, or lack of it as it turns out but you get the point. And all that is on primarily freestanding product!
However, as I have said and will continue to maintain, the rate isn’t the only factor. That is probably one of the primary reasons that this inituative by Merloni hasn’t panned out I suspect.
I know that Kevin is referring to MFI a lot there and it has to be said that so far in my case and others I’ve spoken to, MFI have been an utter joy to work with. They support their agents well, are realistic and most of all they actually listen to what we tell them. They also have an understanding of some of the problems that we have and do their utmost to help, in other words it’s the kind of people you actually want to work for.
If MFI can do it, why can’t others?
As Kevin also alludes to, many of us pitched in and helped MFI for basically no reward other than seeing others benefit from it although none of us take, or will take, any direct credit for it. It was simply regarded it as doing some of you guys a small favour, well in my eyes anyway and Kev’s.
But he’s right, there are fewer and fewer of us out there that can actually service contract work, still fewer with the skills required to do the job even close to correctly. In fact, in many ways, these days the shoe seems to be on the other foot to a large extent from where it was not so many years ago. Times have changed and many a WP or manufacturer either have not, or refuse to, change with them. I for one do not intend being caught in that trap.
I would, as I’m sure Kevin and others would, be only to happy to help in using the data that we have collected on agents to help out any manufacturer or whoever to build a network, but with one caveat. It has to be worth it for the people we do it for, the independent agents.
We have already started to compile a list from the data gleaned from the e-Jobs applications where repairers have expressed an interest in carrying out contract work. This data will probably turn out to be the most comprehensive list of repairers and skillsets in the UK eventually. I’m also quite sure (well I more or less know) that DASA will not object to their members also being added into that mix.
In the case of MFI it was a no-brainer, we had a company offering realistic rates with a promise and, very importantly, a history of supporting it’s agents and not just on the rate, but in terms of loyalty and working with them as well so it really was a good proposition for all concerned. If only all contracts were this easy to decide upon.
MFI were up front and honest with us from the get-go as well and, in my book, that goes a long way. So yeah, I agree wholeheartedly with Kevin, hat’s off to MFI for showing the way and, even if the rate rise doesn’t go through on time, MFI have supported me, I will reciprocate that.
As to Network DASA, well what can I say? It was a good idea, I know as we were already being kinda pushed in that direction at the time and were passing on details of repairers when asked, we still do that today and will continue to do so. UKW has always been about the promotion of the independent repairer and I see no reason for any change in that. But, as the saying goes, “if you ain’t in it, you can’t win it!” So please, if you’ve not done so already fill out the e-Jobs form and fax it back, it’ll only take you a few minutes to do it and even if you get one job from it, was it not worth the effort? And the 0870 number is only a normal national rate call, it just converts the data to an electronic format. 😉
There is no way that myself, Kevin, Dave or any of the people that we trust would ever put dross your way intentionally, I truly believe (or like to think) that you all know that from our attitudes. We have to do it ourselves, if we’re not happy with it there’s no way we’d foist it on anyone else.
So yeah, we’d do it again, or I would quite happily as we have done very quietly for the past twelve months or so for a few people helping out here and there. Some of you may have gained from it, you may not even know why, but there’s no reason for us to go around shouting about it too much. After all if we can’t help each other out then what’s the point?
K.
Kelvinators and Candy other built machines need a +5 cut off for the wet wall ones, use a VS9 (IIRC) 😉
K.
Point of technical note that is probably not at all that important, the CFC used in the production of the insulating foam actually exceeds the charge of gas in the fridge by a considerable margin. Then, if you want to go down the environmentalist route, there is the actual production effects on the environment which are far more harmful than the chemicals actually in the appliance. Then to cap that there’s the huge disposal issue as the waste is still, to my knowledge, an ongoing problem with refrigeration.
This is why, even under warranty, if we exchange a door (foamed) we are not legally allowed to pick it up as it is, in the eyes of the law, hazardous waste product I think.
Woz could probably elaborate further on the actual legalities involved.
However, with all that said Kevin is quite right, the quantity of harmful chemicals or CFC’s in any refrigeration unit is pretty much insignificant in the grand scheme of things and the legislation surrounding it pretty much a typical political knee-jerk reaction. After all politicians have to be seen to be doing something. 😉
This is something that many, many customers don’t give a fig about when buying a product, it’s only a white box that sits in the corner churning away, the price of it is far more relevant to most customers.
But to answer the original question, no there’s no danger at all from the crack in the liner and any escape of CFC from it woudl be so minute it would be almost inperceptable.
K.
I may well just move the thread over sometime over the weekend if you think there is the interest in it. I won’t “cross-post” it.
K.
Re: Christmas Bash 2004
Dave_Conway wrote:
He’s paying >>> :scots:Is that your new disguise then? 😉
K.
Re: Cheap electrical good, everything electrical, was it a s
This sort of thing sickens me on many levels.
For a start it gives out trade a bad name, as do the “cowboys” that are out there although that is a decreasing issue these days in light of more complex appliances. However, this sort of nonsense just perpetuates the image sadly.
It also does the internet traders that are genuine any favours at all. 🙁
In the spirit of that, or at least UKW trying in its own small way to combat it I have invited any retailers to post their details to us and we’ll add them to the web links section provided that they are genuine. We will check any that are submitted and, as far as we can, ensure that they are genuine retailers and not fly-by-night merchants out to rip you off.
I can assure you that there are a lot of good, solid retailers out there on the web offering really good deals but, as is the case here and as I said previously, the offer was so good as to be “too good to be true” often it transpires that it actually is too good to be true.
To let you understand, the margins on normal mass market appliances do not in any way, shape or form allow for massive discounting at all. In all honesty the best you can hope for is a good service and an honest price, bargains in this industry are rare without a catch of some kind.
K.
If it is a real Candy tub group then the bearings are easy to do, but only with a LOT of experience on them and the only way to gain that experience is with many a cut (usually severe) and much cursing into the bargain.
Not a job for the DIY’r I’m afraid.
K.
Hi,
If you search the forums you’ll find a load of info on the famous E2 error. In all honesty, you’ll probably need an engineer though.
K.
No, if you can’t see a reset then there’s likely a fault, several things could cause it (heaters, stats etc.) so if you’re not sure I’d advise an engineer.
K.
Re: Merloni
Alex wrote:I ought to shut up really as I’m bloody busy.
And if you’re not busy you’re on holidayor a golf course! 😉
I’m still thinking about all this and stuck a little something in the subscriber forum to provoke some thought. Let’s see if any are sharp enough to pick up on it.
This needs a lot more thought and discussion methinks but it does seem eminently sensible to me to at least have a crack at it.
K.
