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Re: Manufacturering plants of white goods.
Which is why I stated that most of the Refrigeration and Hobs came from Spain.
Of the 42 factories around the world in 13 countries Spain has 7.
When I worked for them the washers came mainly from Poland, a lot of D/W from Spain and a few other sites.
A survey we did found that a typically appliance travelled some 14,000 kms.
Another survey we did was of the 4 Dishwasher factories in a 24 hr period if you placed each appliance side by side they would measure some 5 miles.
At that time 3 of the factories were on 24hr production runs.
Those were the days, we spent in foreign locations doin surveys for PR and quality control. 😆
Re: Bosch quality bearings!
It might have more to do with low water levels than quality of bearings.
Then again if only Bosch were as good as the people they pay to assemble there products. 😆
Is it possible the seal broke/washed away due to the bearings being unable to take the strain of the wash load whilst stay intact.
Having said that up until 2004 bearing failures within FUG were rare, since the poly tub was introduced both FUG and FOC calls have increased.
Re: Manufacturering plants of white goods.
Always go by the label, the made in …….. is always correct, there is no way that can be wrong. 😉
Re: Manufacturering plants of white goods.
Here is a link to the BSH Espana site listing there products and there factories.
http://www.bsh-group.es/index.php?page=115933
All the UK fridgeration came from Spain as did all there Hobs, a lot of dishwashers also came with same spec as Balay brand rebadged Bosch in the UK.
In fact most of the Bosch Group products apart from Washers came from Spain.
Re: Baumatic products.
wsts wrote:
I havent seen any Baumatic ovens made by Stoves 😯
Double oven with small grill.
Its badged Neff, Bosch and Baumatic and made and badged by Stoves.
Don`t ask model numbers, I`m not a model number collector.
Re: Baumatic products.
gandh1 wrote:most of the stoves stock was turkish or british ?!
and if all baumatic was made in china, why do they have made in eu/italy/etc stamped on much of there products ?
There an Italian based company.
I`m not goin further than the end product leaves an EU/Italian etc factory.
Re: No Parts Available If Retail Price Below £250?
iadom wrote:
As you freely admit, you are no legal expert, me neither but the devil is in the detail..
All i go on is the amount of FOC invoices coming into the office via legal threats from clients and company policy.Re: Baumatic products.
Would that be the Fagor appliances that are imported from China.
Some Baumatic Elements are cheaper than the Neff ones.
As both ovens are made by Stoves, who probably import from China as well.
A recent period ago Baumatic parts where slow in coming, as the ship containing the spares broke down.
Or rather they had no cash to buy them.
Re: Baumatic products.
You`ll also find many Baumatic badged products are also badged by others I`ve seen Hotpoint D/w which are Baumatics and made by Whirlpool.
Don`t bother askin Baumatic for help, there guys are just as confused.
Anybody doin Baumatic work needs a huge level of cross brand experience to be any good or make any cash.
I`ve heard recalls on Baumatics are very high.
Re: best toolboxes?
I use the Stanley FatMax tool bag.
Cost £24.00 but really useful, lots of internal straps and external pockets.
Re: No Parts Available If Retail Price Below £250?
kwatt wrote:
A good kettle is say a Dualit or a Siemens, they cost £100 or thereabouts. .
K.
A top end client had a faulty German appliance (Won`t named 😉 ) large fridge in a 100,000 kitchen.
The large 7ft model was faulty from 1st day, so a replacement was sent, it was faulty too.
The third one arrived along with a Porsche designed kettle.
The kettle blew up on 1st use 😆
Too which the MD called in person full off apologise, they sent the top of range coffee m/c.
It broke after 6 weeks.
😆
Re: No Parts Available If Retail Price Below £250?
It won`t cause too much of an issue.
Why.
The pattern parts market will take the slack.
Geniune parts are not manufactured by the manufacturers, many pattern parts are genuine, the only difference is the box and price.
Many companies are buying mass produced appliances in China.
The Chinese purchase components to assemble, the manufaturers are no longer making most of the products.
Which is why they no longer want to stock components, the Chinese don`t.
So there will still be a market place to have an appliance repaired out of any warranty.
The repair industry is still viable.
I`m no legal expert, but a client i came across was a Barrister and expalined the 6 yr rule the courts are using for break down of a large domestic appliance.
It comes from the Sales Of Goods Act six yr rule, read it below,
http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/consume … 38311.html
Anything found to fail within 6 yrs can and has been challenged in court and has resulted in the product being repaired under those guidlines for free by the manufacturer.
A company engineer I know has also had to repair a product out of guarantee as the client`s solicitor challenged the comapny with court action if not repaired free, it was then repaired.
Above examples are slightly written differently as I`m not available to quote exactly, but there more or less what happened.
