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Re: When slugs attack
madangler1 wrote:
The other odd part is its melted above the element but not directly below it. There were clothes in it but they don’t know if it was on a wash at the time as it was unattended when it happened and there are a number of people who use it, I’m just wondering if there was some water in there and it boiled dry rather than going with no water
Where the cloths fire damaged, possible they could have ignited with in the drum, caused a few flames, melted drum, took wiring out which fused the supply, the photo shows most damage external and away from the heater, I doubt the heater caused this, looks as though heat penetrated away from it and expanded outwards, like a pebble dropped in water the heat would expand similarly but stop around the heater area as the drum thickness is greater than the sides.
The inner drum shows melted debris near the heater in the photo, the burn pattern on the inner drum is upwards, that debris is the source of ignition, which would be above the heater, the plastic would have been damaged by flame as there is black around the drum, without inspecting the inside of the inner drum for damage its difficult to be sure from one photo.
Re: When slugs attack
Martin wrote:Looks like we have another design error cock-up in the making from the Indesit stable once again. :rolls:
One freak incident and its a design cock up. :rolls:
There is a risk of death in doing anything that gets the heart pump above 120, although I guess you already assessed the risk a decided to abstain.
I’d just got back from a walk with the dogs over some hills, took my life in my hands, how I made it back with so many dangers.
Re: 1000’s still blissfully unaware!
3 Brits die each year testing if a 9v battery works on their tongue.
142 Brits were injured in 1999 by not removing all pins from new shirts.
58 Brits are injured each year by using sharp knives instead of screwdrivers.
31 Brits have died since 1996 by watering their Christmas tree while the fairy lights were plugged in.
19 Brits have died in the last 3 years believing that Christmas decorations were chocolate..
British Hospitals reported 4 broken arms last year after cracker pulling accidents.
101 people since 1999 have had broken parts of plastic toys pulled out of the soles of their feet.
18 Brits had serious burns in 2000 trying on a new jumper with a lit cigarette in their mouth.
A massive 543 Brits were admitted to A&E in the last two years after opening bottles of beer with their teeth.
5 Brits were injured last year in accidents involving out of control Scalextric cars.
Perspective time.
There is probably a vast amount of these D/W failed, the client unaware they can get it repaired free binned it or have unrelated faults, and binned them too.
Re: The 0800 Thread
PGS wrote:You Guys need to get a life. Or get out there leaflet dropping if this is all you have to do all day, and no im not an 0800 engineer. This forum should be constructive, informative and helpful, maybe you were off school the day they taught these things. ISSUE CLOSED.
You don’t get out much do you. 😥
For the people who know you, that must be a relief. 😆
Careful the door doesn’t hit you on the way out. :rotfl:
Re: The 0800 Thread
Parked next to one the other day, they still got a rather large tool on the van.
They have a few in head office as well. Tools that is 😉
Re: electrical safety testing ?
There is no quick fix answer, after all if you find a dodgy installation and instructed the client there is no guarantee the client will resolve the issue, especially in our current economic climate, its hard enough getting a client to understand the fault your charging them for, add extra’s like they need an electrician when there is no visible fault would be to say the least interesting…….
It helps though to have a start and finish, defined so that everybody is aware of there responsibilities, are trained and at least regulated to an industry standard.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Specialist01269 wrote:
So what in your “Esteemed opinion” is sufficient proof that the tests have been done ?.
You’ll never know 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}, but you simply lower the level of doubt when the tech your investigating has invested in qualifications, equipment and paid the relevant fee to be registered (When regulation/Registration is in force). Most of incidents I’ve come across in the Gas side have been people with limited funds, money grabbers and or intellect.
As for recording results being useless unless your qualified & regulated, where does being qualified / regulated stop you being a pratt & doing bad work or ensure you carry out correct testing ?.
If regulation is done correctly those people would/should be removed from the body that regulates leave the industry.
A registry of dodgy people made available to employers/contractors would also help.
It does’nt I spent an awful lot of my working life going around after some highly qualified Electricians / Engineers & clearing up the mess they left behind & they’re shoddy work.
Then there not by definition highly qualified. I’ve done the same but I wouldn’t class them as that.
Re: The 0800 Thread
Martin wrote:
lee8 wrote:
maybe he’s gonna take out a franchise.Not with 0800 as they don’t offer franchises any more.
He went tits up over a year ago Martin.
Mod edit.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Martin wrote:
lee8 wrote:
Maybe I should call for both Electricians and Appliance engineers be better qualified.Good plan, you make the call then let us know how you got on?
Good response from someone posting teaching material on here. :rotfl:
Recording results is a waste of time unless your qualified and regulated. It may help, who no’s, each case is different in court, but you’d have to have given copies to a client and hope they kept them, as a hand written record in a book/call sheet is not, in my opinion, sufficient proof you actually did the tests.
I consistently follow engineers work and find abnormalities in there paperwork and in the field. You cant always prove that the insulation results on a hard wired appliance were not done by a tech who had removed the cables from the supply and tested. The only way is to catch out a tech by removing cables and send them in afterwards.
Its all well and good a driver operating a car to the legal requirements, but if you run someone over and they die and you have never had a lesson and been passed as competent and hold a current license your still in the 888t.
Same situation.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Specialist01269 wrote:
Martin wrote:
From 0800’s web site…..Sort of say’s it all really does’nt it ? 👿 A simple Earth continuity test could have saved this young guy’s life.
Depends on what the plumber was doing
I wonder what the guy was doing to have received the shock, surprised the safety devices didn’t trip out, that .
Just read the article, HSE ruled on it 7 days ago, the socket was incorrectly wired, the installation had been tested by Electricians and deemed safe. :rolls: the plumber was installing the appliance and touched a cooper pipe whilst holding the back of the appliance.
I guess regulation may have helped in this case, if the appliance was installed by a Qualified Appliance person, who was regulated, monitored and well aware of the need to test, nobody would have died.
Although it also shows that a qualified Electrician could not wire a simple socket and passed a dangerous installation as safe and caused a death.
Maybe too many d888heads with below average intel are creeping through, on a recent City & Guilds PAT course 7 of the 10 sparks who just done there Part P course failed the PAT exam. :rotfl:
Maybe I should call for both Electricians and Appliance engineers be better qualified.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Martin wrote:From 0800’s web site…..
Very sad, what happened to the person who did it wrong ?
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Specialist01269 wrote:Lee, Just wondering: If you did’nt have to as part of your contract, would you still carry a Megger / Loop tester & carry out testing ? Or do you just do it because you have to ?
Since I’m calling on the industry to become, qualified, regulated I’d have thought the answer would be obvious.
Yes I would still carry out those tests.
You keep saying that your not telling people not to safety test, so why keep bitching at those of us that choose to do things properly as we see them ?. We know we don’t have to do the tests but to us it’s the right thing to do.
See above response. :rolls:Re: The 0800 Thread
Our recently banned Mod from Appliance Care Wales Ltd has gone tits up as well, maybe he’s gonna take out a franchise.
Re: Big white boxes keep on a comin’
I just thought it was UKW making money from pop up ads and my PC blocking them.
Nothing to do with Internet connection.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
I got the 70 figure from the info regarding Beko current situation, its for deaths attributed to Domestic Appliances.
I would imagine the figure for deaths attributed to repaired appliances would be low, which brings me back to the original point.
Why bother safety testing before during or after a repair.
