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Re: electrical safety testing ?
Average yearly rate of 70 deaths a yr are attributed to faulty Domestic Appliances in the UK.
So if regulation does not work, bringing in legal requirements to safety test and appliance does not work.
Then maybe we leave safety testing alone, go the European way and don’t test appliances and accept if someone dies, well at least its sunny in UK case raining and it wasn’t me, go and have a beer and enjoy life whilst you still got it.
Re: British Gas go Hi Viz
I’ve had physio on a shoulder injury thanks to a client not repairing a loose concrete step into the property causing me to fall onto my tool kit and several stitches on my leg from a dog who the owner stated was friendly but decided to bite me anyway.
Just before xmas I was leaving a house and had to walk backwards facing there dog down the garden path as every time I turned my back on it he attempted to bite.
We’ve all had the do you want a coffee/tea, said no because it’ll slow you down due to the location only for the client to start making it for themselves.
Its just annoying for me anyway, I’ve never stood of anybody when they work and it bugs the life out of me when they do it, so I either bump into the client or constantly keep moving them out of the way until they get the message, animals i find standing on there paws or tails does the trick.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
I’d like it to go further and regulate who can purchase components or certain components not be sold unless a qualification can be provided by the customer/business, also getting rid of online video help.
Controversial and would result in certain companies suffering and job losses.
Maybe someone in Beko could point out that whilst there products pose a risk, there intensive safety testing etc ensures they poses less of a risk than say a repair industry outside of the brands control which is unregulated and with no formal qualification. Without it is it possible to prove anybody is competent to work safely, some issues may need rectifying.
From whispers I’ve heard on this subject it may be that this could be coming, although for certain people this has more to do with market share than safety.
Re: Loop / Socket Testing.
Obviously.
Do I need to point out the obvious difference.
By the way use at beginning and {/quote] at the end makes it easier to read a quote.
I write on here speaking as if I’m in a room full of people, as this is an open forum to all members there are more than one person, so unless as you pointed out write directly to you, the rest is in general terms to everyone. :rolls:
Re: Beko
madangler1 wrote:
It does make you wonder about the whole free market thing as as being a reason to be in the eu it seems its free for everyone.
Makes you wonder why Beko are being condemned now, maybe the current govt’s ploy regarding EU rules, the current bank proposal, another reason for controlling the EU or getting out.
My Spanish relatives have not had any media coverage on Beko safety issues, yet there popular in Spain.
Re: The 0800 Thread
Martin wrote:To whom are you referring to lee8? I sincerely hope your obnoxious ramblings aren’t in any way directed toward Mike Day?
Nope Mike is a victim of the people I slagged off at the beginning.
He is no longer a part of them, therefore probably in the same frame of mind as me.
Its called experience Martin, you’ll get some soon I hope, until then you’ll just have to plod along in Egypt leaving the rest of us to speak with knowledege from that experience. 😉
I hope Mike the best for the future and I sincerely hope all our futures improve once this kind of business stops using us as there profit making puppets.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
I’d like some regulation brought in, then people hopefully will understand what there responsibility is, improve their training and knowledge and actually all domestic appliance people can then call themselves Qualified, until then, its really all a joke.
Re: PAT Testing
Martin wrote:
lee8 wrote:
Shame on you.We always know when it’s a weekend don’t we, as that’s always when lee8 pops up with his wooden spoon. :rolls:
Very rarely available in the week, too busy righting wrongs in person. 😆
Re: Loop / Socket Testing.
Specialist01269 wrote:Just hold up a second Lee, who the hell do you think you are to tell me that i’m not trained or qualified to do my job ?
I’ll back track a little, I wasn’t writting specific to you in my response, it was in general terms within the industry.
For that I apologise.
Most of my comments are in general terms, seems I create a lot of confusion. :rolls:
Think this conversation is over.
I think it was you who stated it was for Commercial/industrial and I have not read any current training you have, not that I care, you issue not mine.
Re: British Gas go Hi Viz
Martin wrote:
Oh yes, we had you sussed a long way back. No need to confess to us now by the way as there’s no absolution. :d
Damn I fu88ed that right up then didn’t I. :rotfl:
Re: British Gas go Hi Viz
DrDill wrote:What ever rocks your boat really, but i bet you dont get any repeat business from him
Sent from my iPhone
http://www.kitchenkitsw.comI’m loosing sleep just thinking about it.
Re: dryer fire on bbc news this morning
Does anybody remember a time in history when everything was perfect and nobody died, got mugged, house burn’t down, didn’t pay tax etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
No i’d didn’t think so……. I do remember, but only just, a time when people didn’t cast blame and moan so much, preferring to think for themselves, got of there arses and simply got on with life.
Re: Loop / Socket Testing.
Specialist01269 wrote:So because there’s no statutory requirement then we should’nt do it ? so why bother with any sort of safety testing at all ?
I’ve never said it shouldn’t been done. Quiet the opposite. I’m simple stating at the present there is no requirement to do it and that there is a severe lack of knowledge within the industry.
You carry a lot of test equipment & use it on every call, is that choice or because your employer says you have to ?
I’m not employed, I’m contracted to carry out work that, lets say, has issues.
As for there being a cost to me for the equipment & yearly calibration, Training etc. The Test equipment i’d have anyway it’s not specifically for use in Domestic repairs, it’s a Requirement for Commercial / Industrial sites. Calibration the same but even if it was’nt then it would’nt even equate to pennies per job, what training are you talking about ? if you mean to use the test equipment then that costs nothing.
Then lets hope in this example you don’t receive a bill from the home owner who had a qualified Electrician with the correct equipment, accurately calibrated and fit for purpose who carried out the required testing and found that the whole house was indeed earthed and didn’t require your actions that are not required by law.
You say that Until everybody is on the same page, regulated & enforced then i’ve achieved nothing. On the contrary i’ve ensured that as far as possible i’m safe when working on a machine & that when I leave the appliance then as far as possible I have ensured the customers safety if anything goes wrong & covered myself. It might not be a Legal requirement but from my point of view it’s a nescessary & moral requirement, there’s no way will I ever leave an appliance in an unsafe condition. Whether that be due to a Faulty Earth on the appliance itself or the customers wiring, if there’s a problem with the customers Electrics then I give them written notice of the fact which I ask them to sign for. If they decide not to have the problems sorted either by myself or another sparky then I walk away from the appliance repair. As for everyone being on the same page well that may never happen but it won’t stop me doing the tests & as far as possible ensuring my own & my customers safety.
I never told you to stop.
Using unsuitable equipment, not being qualified and then stepping into areas your neither required to, or trained to, can be foolish, even if your intentions are for the safety of the client, especially if the client has had to pay costs not required due to those actions.
Just a thought: You say you use the test equipment due to the nature of your job, why is the nature of your job any different to ours ?
Its not.
Re: British Gas go Hi Viz
He was not accepting my help and frankly insisted on me fitting those parts, so I thought stuff it, I can’t force him and I wasn’t getting paid had I left telling him I wasn’t interested in the repair.
After all most shops don’t tell fat girls to stop buying skinny jeans, you have to accept the clients always right.
Being the boss, I can afford to pick my arguments. I did enjoy watch his stupidity sink in, especially when the wife started on him.
